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GOP Establishment Invites Its Own Extinction by Declaring War on Tea Party
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 2/5/13 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/05/2013 2:53:32 PM PST by Evil Slayer

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GOP Establishment Invites Its Own Extinction by Declaring War on Tea Party and Seeking Compromise with Democrats

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RUSH: Eric Cantor is out saying the Republicans have to change. The Republican Party has to change. The Republican Party has to show that we want to help people. The Republican Party has to reach across the aisle.

Karl Rove and his PAC. What is it, American Crossroads? Is that the name of his PAC? There was a New York Times story a couple of days ago that basically said they are gonna end up choosing Republican primary candidates so that they're not "Tea Partied." The Republican establishment has had it with nominees like Sharron Angle, Christine O'Donnell, Todd Akin, and Richard Mourdock. They say (summarized), "No more! And if we have to, we're gonna run Republican money against Tea Party candidates to keep the Tea Party outta here," 'cause the elites say the Tea Party is destroying the Republican Party.

Let me tell you what really is happening. Either by accident or by design, this announcement and this newspaper article about Karl Rove's intentions is only serving to unite the Tea Party in ways even now it hasn't been. It is energizing the Tea Party in ways that it hasn't been. After the election, everybody on our side faced a bit of demoralization, and this has ratcheted it back up. The conservative base of the Republican Party has now been targeted by the Republican establishment. That's how they interpreted Rove's comments.

So what the Tea Party people now realize is that they got two political forces gunning for 'em. Obama and the Democrats and the Republican establishment. Now, I want to take you back. Grab audio sound bite number one. Once again, folks, I told you this was on the table. I told you this was going to happen. I predicted it almost literally, and I'm not saying this so that you go, "Wow, this Rush guy really knows his stuff!" I'm not looking for kudos. I'm simply saying you can trust what I tell you. You can trust the predictions. I know the kind of people we're talking about.

Let's go to back to October 19th, 2010, before the midterm elections -- and those midterms in 2010, the Tea Party swept the House by a big margin. They took the House from the Democrats. It was a Tea Party, slam-dunk landslide. The Democrats lost seats all the way down the ballot to dogcatcher level. The Democrats lost over 700 seats nationwide, in the midterms. This why so many of us thought that there was a good possibility to win in 2012. So here, about three weeks before the midterm election in 2010, I warned everybody in this audience the following...

RUSH ARCHIVE: This is how third parties are born. These morons have no clue how short their lease on life is, these elites, they really don't. They have no clue how short their lease on political life is. They seem to think that the Tea Party is gonna end on November 2nd. They think the Tea Party's over, and once the election has taken place, then the elites, the Republican Party as well, are gonna now take over and start to manage the victories that have been secured by virtue of the Tea Party.

What will happen is the Specters and the Charlie Crists and so forth will go ahead and will officially become Democrats, the worthwhile Republicans will go to the Tea Party, and the remaining of these insider people, the David Frum, the David Brooks, the inside-the-Beltway, so-called conservative intelligentsia, the "Let's Make a Deal" types who believe that crossing the aisle and compromise and moderates, that's what the American people want, and they think that's what this election will say. They're going to be all that remains of the Republicans. They'll go to the Hamptons or wherever, but they're going to be all that remains of the Republicans. The Republicans could end up being a 10% party if they're not careful here. They could end up being the third party, and they could be the 10%.

RUSH: That was me predicting exactly where we are now today with the announcement that elements of the Republican Party are now going to seek to make sure Tea Party candidates don't win primaries. The Tea Party/conservative base has been energized. It's been a long time since I've seen that. I'm getting feedback, e-mail, phone calls and this kind of thing. People are furious about this, and they're getting focused and they're coming back after having been demoralized by the election results last November. But, again, that sound bite was October 19th, 2010, before the massive Tea Party landslide victory.

It's further evidence that I was right on the money. After that landslide, what was one of the most amazing things? The Republican Party did not seek to capitalize on it at all. The Republican Party in no way sought to capitalize on the birth of the Tea Party, its growth, its energy, its electoral prowess. They sought to minimize and diminish it, which they continue to do. We'll see what the end result of it is, but right now there's a unity and an energy. It may be just short of a rebirth going on. You have FreedomWorks, people like that, and Tea Party groups all over the country. Let's take a brief time-out and we will... (interruption) See? See?

Snerdley said, "You're not gonna talk about Rove! I know you're gonna try to get away with not talking about him. I just know you are."

Wrongo, pal! Big time wrongo.

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RUSH: Now, to "fair and balanced," ladies and gentlemen: The establishment Republicans, the inside-the-Beltway establishment types... Remember, these are the people who supported Charlie Crist over Marco Rubio. These are the brains. These are the guys who are gonna protect the Republican Party from you. They also opposed Rand Paul. Remember, they supported Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey and on and on. There are countless examples. The bottom line is, they don't have any better record at picking winners than the, quote, unquote, "amateur" Tea Party types do. And even when they pick winners, what do we end up winning?

We get squishy Republican moderates.

You know, my biggest problem with all of this is (and we talked about this before) within Republican Party there is a huge line of demarcation. On the establishment Republican side, they don't see the country at risk. There's nothing really special about where we are. "We've had deficits before. We've had the national debt before. The numbers are just bigger, but there really isn't any crisis here. We just need to start winning elections." They're not really small-government people. They're not interested in a serious decentralization of government or reduction in size. They are more interested in controlling the levers of power.

I mean, that's a lot of money.

The federal budget is a lot of money -- and when you're majority party in Washington, you are in control of the money -- and that's power. The inside-the-Beltway ruling class... That's a term that I have appropriated from that great story in the American Spectator by Angelo Codevilla a couple years ago who wrote about the ruling class. They're of both parties. They are inside the Beltway. They are the New York-Boston axis. They don't see the future as threatened as you and I do, and they don't see the country in crisis like you and I do. Even after that huge 2010 midterm landslide defeat, there was still some embarrassment over the people who won, embarrassment that those people were actually in the Republican Party.

It actually is not new, by the way.

What is new is the birth of and the surging of the Tea Party.

So the elites have finally just said, "Okay, we gotta tamp it down now. It's gone too far. We gotta beat it back ourselves."

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RUSH: I have a little bit of news here from the Pew Hispanic Research Group. "Twenty-six percent of legal Latino immigrants in the US haven't tried or are not interested in attaining citizenship." That's a pretty significant number. Twenty-six percent of legal Latino immigrants don't care about becoming citizens. The reason why that's interesting is because it'll have ramifications for this entire debate that we're having on illegal immigration.

And, more specifically, it'll have ramifications for the Republican Party's heartfelt belief that unless they "reach out" to the Hispanic population with a stated position of clear path to citizenship that might even include amnesty, they don't have any prayer winning elections. In fact, Eric Cantor said the Republicans need to better express why they're doing what they're doing. Cantor said this yesterday. We need to better express...

Don't anybody call Eric Cantor. Please. Do not e-mail or call or fax Eric Cantor. Do me that favor. He says we need to express why we're doing what we're doing. So Cantor says we're not getting our message out. We're not explaining who we are. We're not explaining why we're doing what we're doing. We gotta do a better job of that. He said, "What this is about, is about making sure we can express why we're doing what we're doing.

"We believe very strongly, obviously, in things like fiscal discipline and not spending money you don't have. We also believe in that because it helps people, but we have to do a better job of explaining it." In a sense, he's right. What he's basically saying is we need outreach to the low-information voter who doesn't care about this. Last night, Governor Christie was on the Letterman show. I haven't seen the Letterman show, I'm not kidding, in ten years or maybe longer.

But the television, the DVR was on CBS because the last time I had the TV on was the Super Bowl, which as on CBS. I don't know why but I fired it up last night about 11:30. I was gonna watch something else, but it came up and Letterman was on and just wrapping up with Joe Flacco, the Super Bowl MVP from the Baltimore Ravens. Then Letterman said, "Up next is Governor Christie." So I said, "I'll stick around and watch this," and Governor Christie came out, and the first part the interview was nothing but fat this and fat that.

Why are you fat?

Do you think about diets?

Why do you eat so much?

Have you ever tried to not eat so much?

Christie grabbed a doughnut in the middle of this started eating a doughnut, and Letterman started laughing. Letterman apparently (I didn't know this) made a bunch of Christie fat jokes over the years and Christie was talking about which ones bothered him and which ones didn't. He said the jokes that aren't funny don't bother him at all. The governor of New Jersey was on Letterman and didn't talk about anything other than fat.

Now, I don't know what happened in the second segment 'cause I didn't watch. When they promoted the second segment and went to commercial break, I didn't hang around. But I can tell you this. The Letterman audience is the low-information audience, and they were eating it up, folks. They were eating it up. My point is, I don't care what Chris Christie said last night or didn't say about issues. The Letterman audience dug the guy, and I think what Cantor is saying...

Well, I don't want to put words in Cantor's mouth, but what he's saying is we need to express why we're doing what we're doing. He's talking about outreach to the low-information voters. The problem with this, though, is when you come up with a marketing plan, you don't tell people about it. You just execute it. Now, I think the Republicans right now are engaged in a bunch of hand-wringing and introspection.

It seems like every day a new Republican goes to the microphones to offer an opinion about what they need to do in order to reverse their fortunes. I think it's time they stopped telling everybody what they need to do and just do it. At some point, when you have a marketing plan, you execute it. But you never tell people what the marketing plan is because then you give people a chance to resist it. You don't. You execute the plan.

What is the purpose of marketing?

Ultimately, everything leads to sales, and what is sales? Separating people from their money. You don't tell people how you're gonna do that. You just do it, and hopefully you make 'em happy to give them your money. Well, in this case the Republicans want votes. (They also want money, obviously.) You don't tell people how you're gonna get their vote. Just go do it! But I guess we're going through this period of introspection now.

There's this great concern in the Republican Party about the Tea Party and the fringe kooks and the pro-lifers and the anti-immigration people and the gun nuts, and the Republican Party is worried, "Oh, my God! What are we gonna do about the gun nuts, the anti-amnesty types, the anti-immigration people? What are we gonna do about these hayseed farmers? What are we gonna do about it?" They're going public with this.

It's an internecine war, and it's been going on for quite a while. One of the things that the Republicans obviously don't do well is explain conservatism. Would you agree with that, Snerdley? (interruption) I don't think they explain conservatism very well. I really think that one of the reasons for that is that many of them are embarrassed of it because of the forces arrayed against it inside the Beltway.

I mean, conservatism is the epitome of uncool.

Conservatism is the epitome of unhip, inside the Beltway and outside.

So they're a little bit reticent, but even the ones who are conservative have a tough time explaining it. That's clearly something that needs to happen before they're gonna be able to make a connection with people. And then, of course, make conservatism part of the pop culture. There are ways to do that, too. But, again, in that instance, you don't talk about how you're going to do it. You just do it. If you talk about how you're gonna do it, you give people an opportunity to resist it.

A lot of people look at sales and marketing as efforts to fool you, efforts to lie to you.

I mean, the used car salesman. Look at the image people like that have, or any salesman. The image is they're never honest with you. They're always trying to run a scam on you. This is just the image. So you tell people how you're going to separate their vote from them or their money from them, and you're giving them just a chance to build up resistance to it rather than just executing the plan. Now, we have some Cantor sound bites. He was on CBS This Morning today.

Norah O'Donnell said, "You got a big speech today asking the Republican Party to change. Is this about tone, or is it about ideology?"

CANTOR: What this is about is about (sic) making sure that we can express why we're doing what we're doing. We believe very strongly, obviously, in things like fiscal discipline and not spending money you don't have. We also believe in that because it helps people. In the same way we've got to address the plight of so many working Americans right now and those who don't have any work and say that, yes, we've got policies that will help you in terms of giving you an opportunity for a quality education, in terms of trying to help you bring down the costs of health care. We've got some real policies that we want to put to work to help people, and that's what this is about.

RUSH: I saw a chart the other day, a comparison in the growth of food stamps to the growth of employment. The employment line, as you know, is flat or trends down, you put it on a chart. The food stamp line is heading up at a 45-degree angle. In other words, there are more people signing for food stamps every week than there are people getting jobs. And once they're on unemployment they're on for 99 weeks. I mean, this is a pretty big challenge to explain the values of work, if you don't understand it. You know, said in his so-called farewell address to Congress, his last speech on the floor of the House, he said, "It's amazing how hard it is to sell freedom today." And that struck me, because he's right.

Freedom equals responsibility. That's a hard sell. There's a lot of easier choices out there right now with Obama in the White House and the current make up of the Democrat Party. Food stamp growth, 75 times greater than job creation. Food stamp growth, 75 times greater than job creation. We don't have access to the mainstream media, so marketing is the only way we get the message out for conservatism, marketing and behavior. Marketing and living what you believe. Marketing and putting into practice what you believe.

But Cantor says, "Clearly we need to do a better job of explaining why we're doing what we're doing." Well, one of the things that we're in favor of is people working. Now, how bad is it if, after you state that position, you've got to pause and explain to people why that's a good thing. If we've gotten to the point, for example, where we have to explain fiscal responsibility. If we've gotten to the point we have to explain what we mean by, "You should get a job." If we have to take the time to explain why that is good for you and your country, for you to work, my God. We're raising children, if that's the case. We're dealing with children.

So, anyway, Charlie Rose had to get in on this. Charlie Rose said, "There's this issue that seems to be going in Republican Party circles that the party has to rebrand and reform. Governor Jindal called it, 'The stupid party.' You've got Senator Rubio talking about immigration reform. I mean, is this a recognition that the Republican Party has not spoken to the American people about issues that concern them and how government can work for them?"

CANTOR: Our party has always stood for the conservative philosophy of self-reliance, of faith in the individual, accountability in government. But what we're trying to do is to explain that these proposals of ours actually can help people. And we'd love to see the Democrats join us in trying to set aside differences and seeing if we can come together to actually give some relief to the millions of Americans, frankly, who just want their life to work again. We're trying to be constructive, to help people again, Charlie. And, hopefully, we can bring folks together on both sides of the aisle, something that has not happened too often here in Washington, so we can provide a path to a better future for more Americans and make their life work again.

RUSH: Well, okay. We have to convince people that we don't want to hurt them. We have to convince people that we want to help them and our ideas are good for them. Our ideas can actually help people and we've got to get the Democrats to agree with us and cross the aisle so we can all work together on this.

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RUSH: I don't think there's any doubt, ladies and gentlemen -- I don't say this happily at all -- I don't think there's any doubt that, even now, a whole bunch of Republicans don't understand what the Democrat Party is trying to do. The Democrat Party, from the White House on down, is literally trying to, in a political sense, in the political arena, annihilate 'em. The Democrat Party is trying to wipe 'em out. The Democrat Party wants the Republican Party to be extinct. They want it to be a vanishing species. They're not interested in helping the Republicans get their message out. They're not interested in making government smaller. They're not interested in promoting self-reliance.

The Democrats have no interest whatsoever in promoting individualism or self-reliance, accountability in government. Smaller government, there's not one Democrat anywhere who's interested in any of that, and thus there is no Democrat who's ever gonna cross the aisle and work with the Republicans to make the Republican agenda a reality. The Republicans are going to, at some point -- they may never get there -- but they're going to have to realize that if they are going to prevail they are going to have to engage in a political fight that results in the defeat of the Democrat Party, not bipartisanship, and not crossing the aisle and working together, because they don't have anything in common.

There isn't any common ground between what Eric Cantor said the Republicans hope to do and want to accomplish and what the Democrats want to accomplish. There wasn't any common ground in the fiscal cliff negotiation. There's no common ground in the debt limit deal. There isn't gonna be any common ground when we get to the sequester. There isn't any right now. There just isn't. There's no area for compromise. This is a political battle to the death. The Democrats are on the march. They don't want to have to wake up every day and even deal with the existence of Republicans. They want to wipe out any effective opposition, not get along with it, not compromise with it.

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1 posted on 02/05/2013 2:53:40 PM PST by Evil Slayer
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To: Evil Slayer

The more the Tea Party is attacked, the more it will get stronger.


2 posted on 02/05/2013 2:57:23 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Evil Slayer; Biggirl

I believe this is the death of the Republican party.


3 posted on 02/05/2013 3:04:07 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Biggirl

This is a civil war we must have......are we a Nation of Laws or men.....The the GOP does not stand for a Nation of Laws its stands for nothing and will and deserves to lose.

For me I will stand the constitutions, which means what it says in plain English.


4 posted on 02/05/2013 3:05:22 PM PST by The Klingon
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To: Evil Slayer

I have long had the idea that Karl Rove is queer for James Carville.


5 posted on 02/05/2013 3:06:12 PM PST by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: Navy Patriot

It is not the death of the party but the rebirth of the GOP via the Tea party.


6 posted on 02/05/2013 3:06:46 PM PST by The Klingon
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To: Evil Slayer

The RINOs are not known as the Stupid Party for nothing.


7 posted on 02/05/2013 3:10:57 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Navy Patriot

I believe this is the death of the Republican party.
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You mean the Stupid Party? It can’t happen soon enough.


8 posted on 02/05/2013 3:11:04 PM PST by Starboard
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To: Navy Patriot

Once the Tea Party has a majority. The “wizards” of smart will jump the good ship USS GOP and say they were conservatives all along.

I’ll no longer hold my nose and vote for an “R.”


9 posted on 02/05/2013 3:13:48 PM PST by Toadman (To anger a Conservative, tell a lie. To anger a liberal, tell the truth.)
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To: Navy Patriot

“I believe this is the death of the Republican party.”

Now there is some real Hope and Change.


10 posted on 02/05/2013 3:20:41 PM PST by waredbird
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To: Evil Slayer
Eric Cantor is out saying the Republicans have to change. The Republican Party has to change. The Republican Party has to show that we want to help people. The Republican Party has to reach across the aisle.

Sorry, but no. The Republican Party has to show that what the Dems are offering is actively hurting people, despite their supposedly good intentions.

11 posted on 02/05/2013 3:22:37 PM PST by jdege
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To: Evil Slayer
The Republicans could end up being a 10% party if they're not careful here. They could end up being the third party, and they could be the 10%.

Exactly as the Democratic [sic] party left Ronald Reagan, so has the Republican part left us.

Small loss.

12 posted on 02/05/2013 3:22:47 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: Evil Slayer

I’m unaware of anything the Tea Party has done to merit such attacks. They stand for fiscal responsibility and they opposed Obamacare.


13 posted on 02/05/2013 3:34:00 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams

“I’m unaware of anything the Tea Party has done to merit such attacks. They stand for fiscal responsibility and they opposed Obamacare.”

That is the reason. It’s not the lefts agenda.


14 posted on 02/05/2013 3:37:26 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Navy Patriot

Yes the republican party is dead.
How many of our representatives are fighting for American values. Decency. Our everyday living.
The country is being destroyed from within and they’re sitting on their hands, because they don’t have to adhere to all the rules, taxes, healthcare, that they’re burdening everyone else with.
How is it even legal to enforce a law on the people and not on themselves. This in itself is rediculous.

Are we outfitting our country with new F16’s or tanks? Well we are for muslim brotherhood.
Where are our representatives. Where is the American outrage.


15 posted on 02/05/2013 3:44:12 PM PST by sunny48
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To: Evil Slayer

If we all know them as the “Stupid Party” then why in hell are we still backing them? Haven’t we seen enough?

I’m aware of the underlying strategy of taking over the GOP from within. Dems are just communists, so to hell with them. But if the Tea Party stood any chance of winning offices and building a majority, it would have to come from within the existing GOP.

I think that strategy has now proven false. The GOP cannot be saved if they are attacking conservatives.

The conservatives must form their own party ... now!

“Paging Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin, please pick up any white courtesy phone.”


16 posted on 02/05/2013 3:44:40 PM PST by DNME (Without the Constitution, there is no legitimate U.S. government. Period.)
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To: Evil Slayer

Bttt.


17 posted on 02/05/2013 3:53:40 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Biggirl

I tend to put a class interpretation on this all. The Top 2% divided between Obama and Romney, with the majority going to Romney. The Tea Party are those up and coming people below the truly rich in this country, and the competition to them. These elites have not bothered to ally themselves with the Tea Party because they don’t weant to share power. They think they can by dominating the Republican Party still win elections or at least have enough power in Congress to share in the spoils of office.


18 posted on 02/05/2013 3:55:12 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Evil Slayer
"They also opposed Rand Paul."

Uh, Trey Greyson was a self-imploding douchebag, and McCon didn't really bring full weight to bear. Thusly Greyson's 23.4% beating...

I mean, if that's the test case, ya'll, think about it -- the EGOP is provably impotent, and their threats to derail Tea Party candidates are equally impotent...

19 posted on 02/05/2013 4:12:12 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Own it.)
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To: Navy Patriot
I believe this is the death of the Republican party.

Rush draws nearer to admitting the need for a third party. I've only come to that recently. Now, I don't relish the idea because a truly-divided Republican party well might strengthen the Democrats for years to come.

But if we're not being represented by the GOP, then, sooner or later, conservatives will no longer be satisfied by sitting out elections. They will want to take part and the third party will be the catalyst.

Coalition government here we come.

20 posted on 02/05/2013 4:45:15 PM PST by BfloGuy (Money, like chocolate on a hot oven, was melting in the pockets of the people.)
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To: Evil Slayer
"WE HAVEN'T YET BEGUN TO FIGHT!"

2014!

21 posted on 02/05/2013 4:45:31 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Evil Slayer
And we'd love to see the Democrats join us in trying to set aside differences and seeing if we can come together...

Sorry, the sound of a thousand horse laughs from the left side of the aisle blotted out your little sentence Cantor. What wazzat again?

22 posted on 02/05/2013 4:50:31 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: RobbyS

Where else would you have a farm hand making minimum wage being asked by his party to argue that shielding the upper crust from tax cuts is a good thing, while taking more from his own pay check in payroll and social security taxes is so inconsequential and without comment that it comes as a complete surprise.

Where else would the party cave on the debt ceiling and spending cuts to reduce the debt, knowing full well that the Social Security Trust Fund is the biggest purchaser of U.S. debt and that the Treasury buying its own debt is highly inflationary, both disproportionately affecting older Americans, a large Republican constituency.

They don’t call it the stupid party for nothing. However, its mascot should be the sheep, not the elephant considering how much middle class party members are being fleeced by the country club Repub. RINOs.


23 posted on 02/05/2013 4:53:43 PM PST by marsh2
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To: Toadman
I’ll no longer hold my nose and vote for an “R.”

Don't hold your breath waiting for that scenario to happen, either. You'll turn blue sure as shootin' if you do.

24 posted on 02/05/2013 4:55:13 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: BfloGuy
Now, I don't relish the (third party) idea because a truly-divided Republican party well might strengthen the Democrats for years to come.

Neither do I, but the Tree of Liberty sometimes needs blood.

The RINO GOP-E depend on electing enough backstabbers to maintain their crony capitalistic government perks, and will maintain them as long as they hold enough seats so as to be necessary to the DemoRat agenda. The GOP Elite will "cross the aisle" for the Rat rewards of personal power and tax subsidized wealth, and leave us starving and destitute serfs to their crony capitalistic corporations.

Only when the GOP-E loses so many seats and becomes unnecessary to the operation of the Rat tyranny, will the Rats destroy 'em (as the left always does to the useful idiots).

Once the GOP-E is destroyed and incapable of disloyally stabbing conservatives in the back, then a third party of conservatives can become a true opposition party.

Even then, the Conservative Party will always have to be on guard against RINO-like infiltrating traitors.

To accomplish this, TEA Party patriots will have to use every tactic to defeat RINO GOP-E backstabbing candidates, call this payback if you will, but it will work, a RINO out can't backstab.

It will get worse before it gets better, but Conservatives can have a true branded third party ready for the people when they wake up.

25 posted on 02/05/2013 5:20:52 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Evil Slayer
Game on for Rove and the rest of the RINO elite establishment. You guys are going to be as relevant as the Whigs.
26 posted on 02/05/2013 5:56:16 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: marsh2

I’d rather have the bear as the party mascot.


27 posted on 02/05/2013 6:34:04 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Navy Patriot

Any third party will have to take over all the local & state caucuses before going national. That could take some years unless we started NOW.


28 posted on 02/05/2013 6:36:06 PM PST by WVNan
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To: WVNan

Any third party will have to take over all the local & state caucuses before going national. That could take some years unless we started NOW.


The time to start was before 2008. Better late than never!


29 posted on 02/05/2013 6:44:33 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Williams

The Tea Party was a threat to the lounge lizard Republicans. The upstarts who dared to challenged their RINO ways. The way I sees it is this a way:
1. The Tea Party dies away—a “flash in the pan”
2. The Tea Party surges and takes over the GOP.
3. The Tea Party Bolts the GOP and starts the Liberty Party and within a decade becomes the real opposition party.
4. The Tea Party goes radical, goes under ground and starts to wage a terrorist or propaganda war on the Liberals and RINO allies.


30 posted on 02/05/2013 7:12:13 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Evil Slayer; All

” - - - making sure that we can express why we’re doing what we’re doing. - - - “

Duh, we know what you are doing, Cantor: YOU RINOs ONLY PURPOSE IN CONGRESS IS TO BE CAVE-IN DOORMATS TO OBAMA!


31 posted on 02/05/2013 7:32:00 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Evil Slayer
[Rush] The Republican establishment has had it with nominees like Sharron Angle, Christine O'Donnell, Todd Akin, and Richard Mourdock.

George W. Bush and his boy Turd Blossom were already doing this at the state level 15 years ago in Texas. They were constantly -- following "Poppy" Bush (41) -- promoting "good government/RiNO" types to run against conservatives wherever and whenever conservatives were elected to important state offices, like the State Board of Education.

Rick Perry does this, too. If you're not a RiNO, the RiNO's treat you like a Democrat -- worse than a Democrat, like some kind of gutter scum.

32 posted on 02/06/2013 1:29:57 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Toadman
Once the Tea Party has a majority. The “wizards” of smart will jump the good ship USS GOP and say they were conservatives all along.

That's why we need a list. A long, long list.

33 posted on 02/06/2013 1:58:12 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: marsh2
You are correct.
Defending the top 2%, of which the majority are dems anyway, while increasing taxes on those below isn't a good way to win elections.
34 posted on 02/06/2013 8:03:52 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Navy Patriot
the Tree of Liberty sometimes needs blood

I agree.

I'm late to the [third] party, but I'm finally there.

35 posted on 02/06/2013 4:03:55 PM PST by BfloGuy (Money, like chocolate on a hot oven, was melting in the pockets of the people.)
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To: BfloGuy

The only person I know who has the ability to rally the troops and start the third party is Sarah Palin. She may end up being burned at the stake, but like Joan of Ark, she can bring the country to the change that has to come.


36 posted on 02/06/2013 5:51:11 PM PST by WVNan
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