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To: raptor22
Does anyone seriously believe that Kalifornia would allow oil or natural gas to be drilled for? They'd sit in the dark roasting or freezing to death before they'd even consider the idea.
6 posted on 02/05/2013 4:35:32 PM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

California has ALWAYS had the means to create their own prosperity, they just WON’T.

Blessed with the broadest array of natural resources any political subdividion on the planet enjoys, somehow they have attracted a mind-set that gleefully proceeds to deny the exploitation of even one bit of it. True, in the earlier rush to make the most of what they could extract from the earth and mold into new fabrications, they went to some excesses that for a time made the LA Basin almost uninhabitable, what with the overcrowding and poor control of industrial wastes, and caused whole mountains to be washed away in the haste to extract gold, but now, with time to reflect on how to proceed a little more prudently and with attention to secondary consequences, all of the extraction industries and processing of the materials may be done with an acceptable level of by-products, which in themselves can be turned into an additional source of new products and services.

But like sulking children, the residue left with the earlier widespread exploitations is now “somebody else’s” problem, and they won’t, they just WON’T, allow it to happen again.

Just as a single example, California is no longer self-sufficient in production of electric power, refusing to build generation plants within the state, but preferring to buy power generated elsewhere, some from as far away as Canada. This necessarily drives up the price in the surrounding states, as they must compete for the available killowatts on the grid, and since electric power cannot be stored, that puts stress on the entire grid as distant plants are called in for additional power, or switched off because of a fluctuation in demand.

Natural gas power generation plants COULD be set up, on the ready, and would supply the peak power demands. The nature of their operation is such that these plants can spool up and be on line in MINUTES, where it may take a day or more for more conventional steam plants to pick up the load. More importantly, the same fast-response generation stations can be cut out of the grid as the demand drops, also unlike a steam plant, which takes another day to cool out.

But no, there is a superstitious fear of C-A-R-B-O-N D-I-O-X-I-D-E, a mysterious demon that will cause everybody to drop writhing on the ground and gasping for breath.

These people are so ducking fumb, it is to make heads explode.


16 posted on 02/05/2013 5:11:32 PM PST by alloysteel (If conspiracy does not exist everywhere, it exists nowhere.)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

“Does anyone seriously believe that Kalifornia would allow oil or natural gas to be drilled for? They’d sit in the dark roasting or freezing to death before they’d even consider the idea.”

Absolutely correct in your assessment.

However, Kalifornia won’t _be_ Kalifornia forever. Eventually it may become part of a “Greater Mexico” (at least the southern half).

If that happens, the influence of the gringos will mean nuthin’, and the drills will drill.


26 posted on 02/05/2013 8:02:22 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

What’s that quip:there’s nothing that concentrates the mind more than the thought of being hung in the morning. Even in California it gets close to dawn.


28 posted on 02/05/2013 10:47:39 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger; Road Glide
Does anyone seriously believe that Kalifornia would allow oil or natural gas to be drilled for?

While California throws up a lot of road blocks to oil/gas drilling, they have not completely shut it down. There are currently 32 rigs drilling for oil in the state, one of those is offshore near long beach. The links below show 34 but if you look on the map two are geothermal wells.

Rig Count by state
http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/BHI/2187729679x0x632433/1D53425D-5782-4820-A7A4-422FF8466F4A/Rigs_by_State_020113.pdf

Interactive map of drilling rigs
http://gis.bakerhughesdirect.com/RigCounts/default2.aspx

34 posted on 02/06/2013 6:17:52 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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