Skip to comments.British House of Commons Approves Gay Marriage
Posted on 02/05/2013 5:29:33 PM PST by fractionated
The House of Commons voted overwhelmingly on Tuesday to approve a bill legalizing same-sex marriage in Britain, indicating that the bill is assured of passage as it moves through further legislative stages....
After a six-hour debate, the Commons vote was 400 to 175 for the bill. It will have to pass in the House of Lords, where delaying tactics by opponents are possible, but Mr. Cameron has said that he plans to have the bill enacted into law sometime this summer.....
A day after the newly confirmed archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, took office saying that he shared the Church of Englands opposition to same-sex marriage, three cabinet officials said in a letter published in The Daily Telegraph that the new legislation was the right thing to do at the right time.
Marriage has evolved over time, the letter said. We believe that opening it up to same-sex couples will strengthen, not weaken, the institution.
The three ministers George Osborne, the chancellor of the Exchequer, Foreign Secretary William Hague and Home Secretary Theresa May also asked whether it was any longer acceptable to exclude people from marriage simply because they love someone of the same sex.
Ed Miliband, the leader of the opposition Labour Party, had said on Monday that he would urge his 255 legislators in the 649-member body to vote with him.
Ill be voting for equal marriage for a very simple reason: I dont think that the person you love should determine the rights you have, he said.
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Its good to know that while the muslims take over their once great nation the government of Britain is taking care of the really important issues.
No, not really. We're just doing what the people in Sodom did. Nothing new under the sun.
“Now, since the family and human society at large spring from marriage, these men will on no account allow matrimony to be the subject of the jurisdiction of the Church. Nay, they endeavor to deprive it of all holiness, and so bring it within the contracted sphere of those rights which, having been instituted by man, are ruled and administered by the civil jurisprudence of the community. Wherefore it necessarily follows that they attribute all power over marriage to civil rulers, and allow none whatever to the Church; and, when the Church exercises any such power, they think that she acts either by favor of the civil authority or to its injury. Now is the time, they say, for the heads of the State to vindicate their rights unflinchingly, and to do their best to settle all that relates to marriage according as to them seems good.”
Pope Leo XIII, 1880
Britain goes libertarian, next is polygamy.
>> We believe that opening it up to same-sex couples will strengthen, not weaken, the institution.
Beliefs shaped by political inevitability. #ing asshats.
Should say in the process of enacting law...
And there's no need for the government to be involved in it at all. In fact, it would be irrational for the government to BE involved: there's no public interest. And there truly isn't, if it's a private relation: an adult social unit in which adults are negotiating or contracting for their own self-interest.
But if the definition of marriage is "the union of a man and a woman with each other, and any children who come from their union, then sure, gay couples can marry: if the couple consists of a gay man and a lesbian! Because this is the only kind of "gay couple" which could actually have children come from their union.
The fatal fact is that a good many heterosexuals have already "changed the definition of marriage," essentially excluding children from their idea of what it IS. In other words, they have already radically shrunk marriage to an arrangement that centers on adult desires.
In that case, gays aren't really breaking up marriage. That's already largely accomplished. Nonmarital cohabitation did that. Contraception did that. Easy divorce did that. Fifty million abortions did that. Gays are just looking at the shapeless, broken heap of disjointed pieces of the-thing-that-used-to-be-called-marriage, and saying, "Oh, look, there's a piece I like. You're mean if you don't let me have it."
Who gives a crap? Britain’s going “to Hell in a handbasket” as the expression goes. Just another example of what a joke the “conservative” party there has begun.
Props to those who voted no, however. That’s a real statement in modern Britain.
(And to the person who said they’re going ‘libertarian’, gay marriage is part of the libertarian platform, but to label Britain as libertarian is grossly inaccurate. As with Obama, this is just classic ‘progressivism’, which can be very simply defined as statism with perks for interest groups to keep the ruling party in favor with their coalition. Just mimic the zeitgeist and tear down all those who challenge. That’s the progressive motto.)
‘Its good to know that while the muslims take over their once great nation’
Do Americans really believe that rubbish?.
>> And there’s no need for the government to be involved in it at all.
Agreed. But its involvement exceeds necessity, and is in reality insidious — it inevitably persecutes those that do not conform, support, nor service the beneficiaries.
Britain enacted part of the libertarian agenda, homosexual marriage, libertarians also support polygamy.
heh, Libertarians believe the state should enforce their own beliefs. Odd that. Next up - confiscation of Church property from those who refuse to submit.
They say they're for diversity, when actually what they want is One. Hundred. Percent. Conformity.
I'm that person, who you could have pinged, I didn't say the Britain is libertarian, but like America, it is becoming more libertarian, and homosexual marriage is part of that, as is polygamy.
Not living there I only know what I read in your newspapers, obviously. Why don’t you tell us?
Way to go England. You’re more irrelevant than ever now.
And from a Tory government. What a frickin’ shame.
equal marriage hey, see my tagline
Then all sorts of marriage shoudl apply if they think equality and the feces anal sex lovers will support it, ARF.
I could not care if I was the last one on this world who defends normal marriage, I will never shut up and never support their sick perverted disgusting feces marriage
I refuse to call them gay, gay means happy, they are homosexuals and I refuse to play their name games and put a happy word on their sick anal feces sex.
If our side had some guts then the left would not have destroyed families as much but alas the cowards on our side who refuse to speak up to neighbors, friends, family, on TV etc are just as much to blame