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Alabama kidnapper was killed in firefight, explosives found in bunker, FBI says
Fox News ^ | February 05, 2013 | Associated Press

Posted on 02/05/2013 8:14:08 PM PST by TheThinkingAmericanist

MIDLAND CITY, Ala. – The Alabama man who held a 5-year-old boy captive for nearly a week engaged in a firefight with SWAT agents storming his underground bunker before he was killed during the rescue operation, the FBI said Tuesday night. Also, bomb technicians scouring his rural property found two explosive devices, one in the bunker, one in a plastic pipe that negotiators used to communicate with the man.

Officers killed 65-year-old Jimmy Lee Dykes Monday, said an official in Midland City, speaking on condition of anonymity. The bunker raid came six days after Dykes boarded a school bus, fatally shot the driver and abducted the boy, who by all accounts was unharmed.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; bunker; fbi; jimmyleedykes
This is one guy that I glad they killed. Saved Alabama tax payers a whole lot of money. May he rot in hell.
1 posted on 02/05/2013 8:14:19 PM PST by TheThinkingAmericanist
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To: TheThinkingAmericanist

I hope they weren’t, “Assault-Type,” explosives...


2 posted on 02/05/2013 8:15:58 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: TheThinkingAmericanist
Welcome to Free Republic.

/johnny

3 posted on 02/05/2013 8:18:04 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TheThinkingAmericanist

We get plenty of detail from the MSM (even if most of it is BS) the one thing they never report is motive.

What set this guy off?
Society seems to be under extreme pressure since Obama came into office.


4 posted on 02/05/2013 8:19:37 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TheThinkingAmericanist

Thanks for posting. There hasn’t been much in the way of details on how he was killed. Top secret apparently.


5 posted on 02/05/2013 8:26:27 PM PST by plain talk
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To: TheThinkingAmericanist

Great post, thanks.


6 posted on 02/05/2013 8:28:15 PM PST by doc1019
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To: TheThinkingAmericanist

Remember, FReepers, that ATF has declared flash powder to be a “high explosive” requiring a license. Possession of an old M80, “quarter stick”, or shotgun bird bomb is now “possession of an explosive device” and “possession of a high explosive”.

The perp was a creep and criminal kidnapper but they will pile on charges to smear preppers.


7 posted on 02/05/2013 8:31:02 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow

Yeah, this guy was a real piece of work. Yet another PTSD case gone untreated. As far as I’m concerned PTSD comes from lack of training and lack of mental fortitude. Pysch tests need to be better or put ‘em through Ranger training and if they last more than two days they’re clear. LOL


8 posted on 02/05/2013 8:37:20 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: mylife

I’m probably the only person on the planet sad that he died. I’ve sat and watched someone psychotic go from crazy to normal in 30 minutes after meds were administered. I hope he found peace. I am thrilled that the little boy survived but why is there no talk of his father. Did he have one?


9 posted on 02/05/2013 8:39:07 PM PST by Mercat (Never laugh at live dragons)
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To: TheRhinelander

As far as I’m concerned PTSD comes from lack of training and lack of mental fortitude.

*******

Only the strong survive to live with PTSD. Some can’t take it at all and commit suicide. The rest type about it.


10 posted on 02/05/2013 8:45:27 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: TheRhinelander
As far as I’m concerned PTSD comes from lack of training and lack of mental fortitude.

For some people, it's the result of brain trauma due to the shock wave from explosions going off nearby. It's the adult version of shaken baby syndrome - most adults don't die but they suffer permanent neural damage. It wouldn't surprise me if brain trauma due to repeated hits on the field were why we keep hearing of ex-football players getting in trouble, but nowhere near as many ex-basketball players.

11 posted on 02/05/2013 8:59:12 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: mylife

The perp was apparently due in court that day to answer charges about his prior inappropriate gun firing in his ‘hood.


12 posted on 02/05/2013 9:00:02 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: DBrow
"Possession of an old M80"

My childhood would have lacked a certain exuberance without appropriate, occasional use of M-80s.

13 posted on 02/05/2013 9:03:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Zhang Fei

I wasn’t aware of that. Thanks.


14 posted on 02/05/2013 9:21:15 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: JouleZ

I live with someone with PTSD.


15 posted on 02/05/2013 9:22:12 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Zhang Fei

Isn’t what you’re talking about, TBI..Traumatic Brain Injury.

PTSD is more of a mental/emotional condition. Back in the day it was called Shellshock. But those guys were a different breed back then. Fought battle after battle, no internet, no GoreTex, no smart bombs, nothing...and then a week after returning home, went back to work like nothing happened. Read “The Greatest Generation”

Today it has taken on a different meaning. Nightmares, reactions to loud noises, etc. Make you think you back “there”. Unfortunately, having worked alongside many guys that had “PTSD”, that diagnosis has become another entitlement ploy used by the VA. My nephew was browbeat by the VA counselor when he got back from Afghanistan for NOT claiming it.

And the worst part of that, is that it takes away from the people that really have it. Kind of like that coward in Texas that killed Chris Kyle. He claimed it. He never saw any combat. He was in Baghdad in ‘08. I was too. Him getting it, diminishes what the people that actually have it, have to deal with.


16 posted on 02/05/2013 9:33:39 PM PST by qaz123
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To: TheRhinelander

Wow.


17 posted on 02/05/2013 9:40:48 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: qaz123
He never saw any combat. He was in Baghdad in ‘08.

Was the guy a fobbit?

18 posted on 02/05/2013 10:21:59 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

was the guy a FOBBIT??...LOL

IN 2005 I was begging to go on convoy duty just so I could say.... I never was one!


19 posted on 02/05/2013 11:51:04 PM PST by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thanks.


20 posted on 02/06/2013 12:13:59 AM PST by TheThinkingAmericanist (Paul Krugman, Sales tax, Death Panels)
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To: mylife

Dispute with a neighbor. He had a court date on charges. A real whackadoodle from what I read.


21 posted on 02/06/2013 12:14:28 AM PST by TheThinkingAmericanist (Paul Krugman, Sales tax, Death Panels)
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To: qaz123
PTSD is more of a mental/emotional condition. Back in the day it was called Shellshock. But those guys were a different breed back then. Fought battle after battle, no internet, no GoreTex, no smart bombs, nothing...and then a week after returning home, went back to work like nothing happened. Read “The Greatest Generation”
My grandmother's Step-brother on my Mom's side served in WW2. He came back and was never able to work. He'd walk the house at night. Scared my grandmother to death. Her Daddy just told her, "The war did that to him." I heard that he was on the beaches in Normandy. Watched his friends die around him. He never was right after that.

Some gave all.

-Patrick
22 posted on 02/06/2013 12:14:40 AM PST by TheThinkingAmericanist (Paul Krugman, Sales tax, Death Panels)
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To: mylife
We get plenty of detail from the MSM (even if most of it is BS) the one thing they never report is motive. What set this guy off?

How do they find out if the guy is dead? I'm glad he's dead, btw.

23 posted on 02/06/2013 3:38:33 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: TheThinkingAmericanist

I have a gut feeling this guy was a “Falling Down” situation, it was prodded and pushed by every progressive agenda aimed at provoking him to erupt in anger and frustration.

There is too much darkness about this situation for me to see any light of truth, many FReepers have said we are to expect mini Waco situations soon, I think we just saw one.

This person does not deserve hate aimed at him just because of his actions, its better to aim our hate at the people and reasons that forced him to take his actions, because every single one of us if pushed hard enough could be backed into a corner and possibly forced to do the same, its an evil world out there right now with Obama in charge.

The man killed and is guilty but just exactly why did he? And I will not accept FBI troll comments anymore here at Fr, we know they live here gathering intel.


24 posted on 02/06/2013 3:46:24 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: Zhang Fei

It is really what is called “moral damage”.


25 posted on 02/06/2013 4:17:26 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: TheThinkingAmericanist

I think the guy had Mr Brown Syndrome. Mr Brown was an old guy that lived with his equally weird wife near me when I was a kid. He would call the cops on us kids all the time. The local police would have to respond, but they would just wave at us as they drove by. We would be playing smear the queer, kick the can, or just be riding our banana bikes in the doctor’s parking lot. It would happen at least once a week during the summer. He even pulled a gun on my older brother. We never told our dad because my dad would have killed him.
I suspect the bus stop was very near this guy’s property and the kids were littering or doing something to agitate this freaky guy. It may have been just loud talking while they waited for the bus. I bet the guy was up every morning listening to ‘those rotten kids’ imagining everything they did was to spite him.


26 posted on 02/06/2013 4:40:07 AM PST by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: Mercat
I am thrilled that the little boy survived but why is there no talk of his father. Did he have one?

Good observation. What a nation we live in....

27 posted on 02/06/2013 4:45:19 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: TheRhinelander
As far as I’m concerned PTSD comes from lack of training and lack of mental fortitude. Pysch tests need to be better or put ‘em through Ranger training and if they last more than two days they’re clear. LOL

Then you know very little of PTSD......

I play softball with a guy who is dealing with the effects of agent orange as well as "anger management issues" directly related to his diagnosis of PTSD. He is still receiving counseling thru the VA here in Detroit.

He had been shot twice during two tours in Vietnam as a marine, and participated in the battle for the Saigon embassy during the Tet Offensive in 1968. Here's what that was all about:

Saigon – Tet Offensive, 1968

28 posted on 02/06/2013 5:16:03 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Mercat
I’m probably the only person on the planet sad that he died.

No you're not, I'm saddened too. It's been reported that he was a Vietnam vet and if so, I suspect his anti-social behavior he exhibited towards his neighbors was a direct result of his service in-country........

May he rest in peace....

29 posted on 02/06/2013 5:24:10 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: TheRhinelander
As far as I’m concerned PTSD comes from lack of training and lack of mental fortitude.

That wouldn't explain the well-trained, very tough guys I've served with who were diagnosed with PTSD. You really don't know who it's going to affect or how acutely.

30 posted on 02/06/2013 5:30:40 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

PTSD is another way they will disarm America. A diagnoses of PTSD will be grounds for a weapons bar.

What better way to disarm all the combat vets.


31 posted on 02/06/2013 5:40:28 AM PST by USAF80
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To: USAF80

I agree that’s likely where it’s headed. However, that doesn’t mean it isn’t real and doesn’t effect people.

Too often on FR I see this kind of crap bandied about—”They’re just weak, tell ‘em to suck it up!” Yeah, great plan, tough guy.

However, I will say I’m very leery of people who are diagnosed with PTSD who didn’t see combat. I’m not a psychologist by any stretch, but it seems rather fishy.


32 posted on 02/06/2013 5:46:22 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I have a family member who went off the deep end. Never saw combat, was US Army. We don’t know what happened.


33 posted on 02/06/2013 6:04:03 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Eye of Unk

—There is too much darkness about this situation for me to see any light of truth, many FReepers have said we are to expect mini Waco situations soon, I think we just saw one.

This person does not deserve hate aimed at him just because of his actions, its better to aim our hate at the people and reasons that forced him to take his actions, because every single one of us if pushed hard enough could be backed into a corner and possibly forced to do the same, its an evil world out there right now with Obama in charge.—

This is one of the worst posts I have seen on FR. Mini Waco? The guy killed a bus driver and kidnapped a 5 year old. Think about that. Not aim our hate on the person that committed murder and kidnapped a child? Are you serious? Blame the people that “caused” him to do this? Again, are you serious? I’m sick of these posts on here.


34 posted on 02/06/2013 6:12:43 AM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" / @rjustice21)
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To: DBrow
"Possession of an old M80, “quarter stick”, or shotgun bird bomb is now “possession of an explosive device” and “possession of a high explosive”."

Bird bombs? How the heck are we going to be able to break up noisome mass roosts of starlings or cattle egrets now?

Besides, I hear tell (from unnamed sources) that a single bird bomb over their heads is superior to a regular warning shot for putting trespassers on notice that they are in the wrong place...

Bird bombs -- a few grains of black powder in a cardboard case smaller in diameter than 12GA bore -- "high explosive"? YGBSM!!

35 posted on 02/06/2013 11:11:58 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

A blackpowder bird bomb would (probably, IANAL) be OK. The ones I’m familiar with have flash powder, a case, and a fuse, and it’s the flash that makes them “high explosive devices”.

From ATF (note that “theatrical flash powder” is called HE)
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Binary Explosives

Binary explosives are pre-packaged products consisting of two separate components—usually an oxidizer like ammoni¬um nitrate and a fuel such as aluminum or another metal. These components typically are not listed separately on the List of Explosive Materials and do not meet the definition of “Explosives” in 27 CFR 555.11. Therefore, ATF does not regulate the sale and distribution of these component chemicals, even when sold together in binary “kits.” However, when the binary components are combined, the resulting mixture is an explosive material subject to the regulatory requirements found in 27 CFR, Part 555.
Storage

All explosive materials, including mixed binary explosives, must be stored in locked explosives storage magazines as prescribed in the regulations found in 27 CFR, Part 555, Subpart K—Storage, unless they are in the process of being used, manufactured, transported, or physically handled in the operating process.

High explosives – such as mixed theatrical flash powder–must be stored in Type 1 or Type 2 magazines, or in Type 3 magazines for temporary attended storage.
Low explosives must be stored in Type 1, Type 2, or Type 4 magazines, or in Type 3 magazines for temporary attended storage.

Explosive materials may not be left unattended in Type-3 magazines (day boxes) and must be removed to Type 1, 2 or 4 magazines for unattended storage. For indoor storage, explosives magazines are not permitted in any residence or dwelling, and no more than 50 pounds of explosive materials may be stored in any single building. Storage regulations do not apply to binary explosives until they are mixed.
Manufacturing
Manufacturing

Mixing binary components together consti¬tutes manufacturing explosives. Persons manufacturing explosives for their own personal, non-business use only (e.g., personal target practice) are not required to have a Federal explosives license or permit. However, individuals or companies must obtain a Federal explosives manufac¬turing license if they intend to engage in the business of manufacturing explosives for sale or distribution, or for their own business use. Such business uses include manufacturing for use in commercial blasting applications, removing obstacles such as trees or rocks during construction, theatrical special effects, and for demonstration or product testing purposes.

Therefore, licensed manufacturers and dealers of pre-mixed binary explosives kits, such as those used to make exploding targets, including those who combine the components to make videos or photos for use in marketing, or to test the product, are subject to Federal recordkeeping requirements and must maintain records of manufacture or acquisition, distribution, exportation, use, inventory and daily summaries of magazine transactions found in 27 CFR, Part 555, Subpart G—Records and Reports.


36 posted on 02/06/2013 11:23:28 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Future Snake Eater

“However, I will say I’m very leery of people who are diagnosed with PTSD who didn’t see combat’

Would being in a home hit by a tornado and being hospitalized for months be traumatic enough?

There are many kinds of traumatic experiences, not all of them combat, though combat does have a pucker factor of 10 on a scale of 1 to 10.


37 posted on 02/06/2013 11:27:16 AM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow

Looks like ATF is making up crap as they go along (again) — creating new definitions. According to that definition, almost any common commercial firework (sold at stands on the side of the road here in Texas) is HE — and that is a bunch of bull...


38 posted on 02/06/2013 11:45:25 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: justice14
Not aim our hate on the person that committed murder and kidnapped a child? Are you serious? Blame the people that “caused” him to do this? Again, are you serious? I’m sick of these posts on here.

I'm with you justice14. There are always "reasons" behind the actions of violent people, but we always have a choice in our behavior. Yes, we are all sinners, but this man was a dangerous murderer. He and he alone is to blame. He needed to die.

39 posted on 02/06/2013 11:48:34 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: DBrow

I’m referring to deployed service members.


40 posted on 02/06/2013 2:42:46 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Zhang Fei

Armorer.....Yes he was a fobbit.

But in ‘08, there wasn’t much going on there. It was more Iraqi vs Iraqi.

From Easter Sunday(’08) thru the end of the month, insurgents and Sadr’s folks lobbed indirect fire at least 5 or 6 times a day. You could pretty much set your watch to it. I was at the embassy and in the IZ during that time, I want to say in all that time and all that indirect fire, only 1 or 2 people were killed. The injured were mostly sprained ankles, etc from running to the bunkers.


41 posted on 02/06/2013 3:13:51 PM PST by qaz123
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To: qaz123
Armorer.....Yes he was a fobbit.

If that's the case, I'd want to look at this guy as a nutjob whose mental problems predated his service. I have to wonder about the extent to which corners were cut in the recruitment process because quality personnel stayed out due to PC rules of engagement.

42 posted on 02/06/2013 3:30:21 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

From what I’ve been reading, turns out he wasn’t even an armorer as first reported.

Former members of his unit are coming out now stating that he was a mechanic or some type of support guy and never ever left the confines of where he was assigned.

Its sad that the guys that actually need and deserve the benefits for things like PTSD, have it watered down by POS’s like this a**hole.


43 posted on 02/06/2013 7:57:13 PM PST by qaz123
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Former members of his unit are coming out now stating that he was a mechanic or some type of support guy and never ever left the confines of where he was assigned.

It's possible that the guy wasn't even mental. Maybe they asked him about what he did in the military and made fun of the BS he spouted. Whereupon he waited until their backs were turned and unloaded on them. All out of wounded pride (and maybe substance abuse).

44 posted on 02/06/2013 8:09:44 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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