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Chemical climate proxies
1 posted on 02/06/2013 1:22:06 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Slightly off topic....

Have the Russians released any data on the ancient pristine Antarctic “lake” they drilled down to last year?

I have no confidence in their project planning and scientific standards.

Numerous concerns were published on several blogs about their drilling procedures and the tremendous risk of contaminating lake samples and contaminating the lake itself.

It broke my heart that no one from a major research university stepped up and asked them to stop, or at least urged them to ask for assistance.

The lake they drilled into was perfectly preserved and thousands of years old.

It was a treasure chest of scientific information which may now be completely useless.

2 posted on 02/06/2013 2:15:19 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: neverdem
Most of the measurements are known to be indicative of global atmospheric conditions, not just of the conditions at the remote location where the ice was collected.

So,a six inch core of ice represents billions and billions of cubic feet of atmosphere? Uh huh...

4 posted on 02/06/2013 3:12:06 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: neverdem

Interesting projection taking a sample that is estimated at 68,000 years old max and making a projection goimg back 800,000 years is not science. Nor even an intelligent guess.

Going back 68,000 years would include at least two recent north American glaciation periods 10,000 years apart, an estimated 48,000 and 58,000 years ago.

Stuff like this brings out the Moses in me...


8 posted on 02/06/2013 4:19:34 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname ......Ex Chi" mechanic")
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To: neverdem

Other ice-coring projects have produced cores of lower temporal resolution, showing that the current level of atmospheric greenhouse gases, which is due to the burning of fossil fuels, is the highest in at least 800,000 years.


Well, that’s all I had to read to know what this “study” was about. The “fossil fuels” nailed the political slant of this study.

Why was there no mention of VOLCANIC ACTIVITY in the reports? After all, in 800,000 years I’m sure that fossil fuel contaminants would pale to volcanic samples.

This foray into climate change studies is simply some more intellectual “smoke and mirrors” to justify the green movement.


9 posted on 02/06/2013 4:56:27 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: neverdem
This is the only type of data which seems to have any sensible relation to geologic-time-scale climate variation.
Only two possibilities exist - the data will support AGW or it will not. If it does, wonderful! Headline news!

If, as I confidently expect, it does not - well, if a tree falls in the forrest and nobody hears it, does it matter whether it made a sound or not?.

Journalists put one in mind of the three blind, deaf, and dumb monkeys. Only instead of “Speak no evil,” they speak no good.

11 posted on 02/06/2013 5:35:48 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: neverdem

“...showing that the current level of atmospheric greenhouse gases, which is due to the burning of fossil fuels, is the highest in at least 800,000 years...”

I always chafe at the disingenuous context in which such factual statements are made. The (false) focus in to support the current agenda of Global Warming (as a political and ideological cause) and ignores that the level was higher before humans walked the earth. There will be almost zero interest in investigating the causes of this previous peak, or any other peak.


14 posted on 02/06/2013 5:56:35 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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