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Top GOP voices calling for change (Top FR voices administer the zot)
The Washington Times ^ | January 30, 2013 | Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 02/06/2013 7:19:34 AM PST by fractionated

“Change,” long the mantra of Barack Obama and the Democrats, is now clearly the watchword for Republicans such as Bobby Jindal, Rand Paul and Paul Ryan. The need for a Republican reset was repeatedly driven home at the party’s annual winter meeting here last week.

The appeal for reform is coming from unexpected quarters within the GOP--including religious conservatives who appear to be moving toward a more libertarian view of the government’s role on same sex-marriage and other divisive social issues....

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul told a gathering of Ohio Republican officials on Saturday that the GOP needs to be more welcoming to people who disagree with core GOP tenets on social issues such as same-sex marriage.

“We’re going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues … and get people into the party,” Mr. Paul said....

“We’ve got to stop being the stupid party,” Mr. Jindal told the 168-member Republican National Committee. “It’s time for a new Republican Party that talks like adults. We had a number of Republicans damage the brand this year with offensive and bizarre comments. I’m here to say we’ve had enough of that.”...

On same-sex marriage, an issue which libertarian-minded members of the GOP and younger voters think often breaks with the party orthodoxy, Mr. Norcross has similar advice.

“I oppose same-sex marriage, and as a lawyer who has done a lot of adoption work, I find adoption by same-sex couples not in the best interest of the child in an overwhelming majority of cases,” Mr. Norcross said. “But we are losing that battle with most voters — the polls are going the other way, rapidly. … Do not exclude people on the basis of their disagreement with you on those issues.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; gop; reform; republicans
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Can the GOP pivot to a more libertarian position, bringing its actual positions into line with its pro-freedom rhetoric?

Or will it continue to slip into irrelevance?

1 posted on 02/06/2013 7:19:39 AM PST by fractionated
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To: fractionated
Can the GOP pivot to a more libertarian position, bringing its actual positions into line with its pro-freedom rhetoric?

Freedom for what? Abortion? Gay marriage?

2 posted on 02/06/2013 7:21:58 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: fractionated
I refuse to be part of a party that abandons the truth.

I certainly will not be part of one that wars against the truth, as the democrats do.

3 posted on 02/06/2013 7:22:28 AM PST by skeeter
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To: fractionated
The GOP is not losing because of social issues.

It is losing because the GOP establishment has no clue how to win elections. The Bush brand of Republicanism ruined the party brand in the 2006 and 2008 elections. Tea Party conservatism is what put the GOP back in charge of the House and gave them a place at the table again. The GOP-E had their way in 2012 and managed to lose to about the weakest incumbent Dem in modern history.

So what is the lesson to these idiots? Why, more of the same of what loses elections. It used to only be Dem liberals that thought the answer to continued failure was to do even more of what is failing in hopes that it eventually succeeds. That malaise is now firmly rooted in the GOP establishment as well.

4 posted on 02/06/2013 7:26:47 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: fractionated

As a party we need to boldly and unapologetically state the truths we know exist. Being watered-down Dems is not helping. It just drives away the conservatives and does not fool the Liberals who want 100% liberal.

A few silly statements by a few individuals is not the party line. Let’s get that straight, too.


6 posted on 02/06/2013 7:28:42 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: fractionated

Being a real American (not AINO) is still fine w/this old jathead !!!!!

Semper American!
*****


7 posted on 02/06/2013 7:29:01 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: fractionated

“But”. There’s always a but.

Your position is rational and reasonable and morally superior to the position of our opponents, who advocate a position that would have been considered the ravings of a lunatic just 10 years ago

BUT


8 posted on 02/06/2013 7:29:20 AM PST by DManA (0 ye)
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To: dirtboy

Democrat Lite? Let us turn into Sodom and Gommorah, just keep my taxes low? No thanks.


9 posted on 02/06/2013 7:31:06 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: fractionated
We had a number of Republicans damage the brand this year with offensive and bizarre comments.

Candidates need to be coached on how to avoid the trap "gotcha" questions -- they don't need to abandon principles.

10 posted on 02/06/2013 7:31:49 AM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: fractionated

If you want to be taken seriously you need to start defending these articles you post.


11 posted on 02/06/2013 7:32:41 AM PST by skeeter
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To: fractionated
The appeal for reform is coming from unexpected quarters within the GOP--including religious conservatives who appear to be moving toward a more libertarian view of the government’s role on same sex-marriage and other divisive social issues....

lol. That is a loser strategy. They will never get the lib vote but they will most assuredly lose the conservative vote.

12 posted on 02/06/2013 7:34:46 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: fractionated
Pimping gay marriage and agreeing with Eugene Robinson about the NRA is no way to go through life, son.

But we do have some lovely parting gifts for you. A Milliom Mom's membership card and 100 free comments on Mark Morford's blog.

13 posted on 02/06/2013 7:36:36 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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Republicans need to learn to stay off of the stupid liberal programs on TV and start their blabbering. It is as if they are seeking their moment of fame.


14 posted on 02/06/2013 7:40:16 AM PST by YukonGreen
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Republicans need to learn to stay off of the stupid liberal programs on TV and start their blabbering. It is as if they are seeking their moment of fame.


15 posted on 02/06/2013 7:40:29 AM PST by YukonGreen
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To: fractionated

We live in an environment where democrats can ask if the flag planted on Mars is still there, or they can muse on camera if all those human beings on Guam might cause the island to tip over.

But let a republican make a reference to “legitimate rape” or to anything else with which the leftists can inflame idiot women, and we get informed we’re the ones who must abandon all of our conservative principles.


16 posted on 02/06/2013 7:40:33 AM PST by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: fractionated

Bu Bye Ron Paulian.


17 posted on 02/06/2013 7:40:38 AM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: kevkrom
Candidates need to be coached on how to avoid the trap "gotcha" questions -- they don't need to abandon principles.

They aren't going to be able to avoid them because that is the primary goal of the media. The moderates need to learn to keep their traps shut and stop dancing to the media tune in agreement.
18 posted on 02/06/2013 7:49:01 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: smokingfrog

Ping


19 posted on 02/06/2013 7:51:00 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR: Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: fractionated

You got the zot for that???

How interesting. Especially as there are hundreds of liberal FReepers that not only agree with you, but would argue that your comments are not liberal enough.

Tenure certainly matters here. My advice: Wait a while. Re-join under a new FReep name. Lay low. Make innocuous comments for a year or so. Then come back and make that same comment. You’ll be applauded.


20 posted on 02/06/2013 7:52:14 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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