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Fight Against Gay Marriage? Not if the Iowa GOP Wants Young Voters
Ankeny (IA) Patch ^ | February 4, 2013 | Stephen Schmidt

Posted on 02/06/2013 7:19:48 AM PST by fractionated

Young Republicans in Iowa are still split on the institution of marriage being extended to gay people. But there is a growing consensus among college-aged GOPers that in order to win elections, the party's focus should be elsewhere.

Gay and lesbian campus groups and College Republicans haven't exactly been friendly to one another over the years, in Iowa or the rest of the country.

But there are signs that with this coming generation the trend could be changing, and for the Republican Party that could be critical.

"As a young Republican, I see where the party’s coming from with the idea of traditional marriage, but I cannot support that aspect of the platform," said Victoria Hurst, president of the University of Northern Iowa College Republicans.

She said she supports many Republican ideals, but not the party's stance on gay marriage.

"America has bigger problems than who can and cannot marry; it is time to move beyond this and focus on bigger problems, like the federal deficit and unemployment rates," she said....

A Gallup Poll in November of young voters aged 18-29 found that 73 percent support same-sex marriage. Almost a third of Republicans surveyed support gay marriage.

The Republican Party has been losing the battle for young voters in a convincing way the last three elections....

Libertarian-leaning Republicans and Independents who might otherwise vote Republican for fiscal reasons have considered the opposite ticket, or voted third party, Ginty said, as they feel that the government should not be in the business of restricting freedoms for anyone....

(Excerpt) Read more at ankeny.patch.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; generationaldivide; homosexualagenda; marriageequality; mentalillness; pedophiles; perverts; romney; romneyagenda; romneymarriage; romneyvsclerks; sodomhusseinobama; stephenschmidt; strategerist; zot
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the government should not be in the business of restricting freedoms for anyone

Words to live by.

1 posted on 02/06/2013 7:19:55 AM PST by fractionated
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To: fractionated

fractionated
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2 posted on 02/06/2013 7:22:10 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Definite liberal troll


4 posted on 02/06/2013 7:24:52 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: fractionated

The government should not be in the business of promoting and endorsing perversion.


5 posted on 02/06/2013 7:24:52 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: cripplecreek

So what’s inaccurate about the article?


6 posted on 02/06/2013 7:25:28 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: cripplecreek
Is this John McCain's Steve Shmidt?

If so, your initial assessment is correct.

7 posted on 02/06/2013 7:26:33 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Strategerist
"America has bigger problems than who can and cannot marry; it is time to move beyond this and focus on bigger problems, like the federal deficit and unemployment rates," she said

Why has the left chosen this hill to fight on?

9 posted on 02/06/2013 7:28:13 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Proud2BeRight

In my experience dealing with the Under 30 crowd they unfortunately see complete moral equivalence between this and the Civil Rights struggle of the 50’s and 60’s.

I’m afraid it’s a done deal once enough of us go to that great Tea Party Rally in the sky.


10 posted on 02/06/2013 7:28:13 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: US Navy Vet

Yeah, he’s been pretending to be concerned about conservatism at FR for a few weeks now.


11 posted on 02/06/2013 7:29:09 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: fractionated

The government should not be in the business of redefining the family.


12 posted on 02/06/2013 7:29:32 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?)
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To: US Navy Vet; fractionated

Has he/she/it bothered to stay around to defend their posts on any of those threads?


13 posted on 02/06/2013 7:29:39 AM PST by skeeter
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To: cripplecreek
Definite liberal troll

I smell ozone.

14 posted on 02/06/2013 7:31:20 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: skeeter
Why has the left chosen this hill to fight on?

It's a major step in their ultimate goal. First they mainstream butt sex, then they lower the age of consent, and viola! They get to screw little boys.

15 posted on 02/06/2013 7:32:11 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?)
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To: skeeter
Is this John McCain's Steve Shmidt [sic]?

Apparently so. The article reflects his insight -- as I recall, he was one of the first major figures in the GOP to sound the alarm about how McCain shot himself in the foot with a bad VP pick.

16 posted on 02/06/2013 7:32:23 AM PST by fractionated
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To: fractionated

restricting freedom?? for anyone?

to marry a 5 year old?

wait, you are for that restriction?

Redefining words like “marriage” is not something government should be either


17 posted on 02/06/2013 7:32:35 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: fractionated

The PRINCIPLE is to maintain and support MARRIAGE as between one man and one woman. THIS (the notion that we should no longer follow the God-given principle of MARRIAGE) is exactly the kind of thing that has weakened the GOP!

We should be doing everything we can to strengthen marriage because it IS the foundation of a healthy society.

“A great disaster had befallen Russia: Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.” ...Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn


18 posted on 02/06/2013 7:33:35 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Probably more accurately the equivalence is seen between not allowing gay marriage, and the old anti-miscengenation laws.

One thing that is extremely similar between gay marriage and lifting interacial marriage bans is the incredibly rapid flip in public opinion.


19 posted on 02/06/2013 7:33:35 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: fractionated

I see the liberal homosexual n00b disruptor has not been zotted yet. Someone is getting sloppy...


20 posted on 02/06/2013 7:34:35 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
They get to screw little boys.

I didn't know Catholic priests were agents of the leftist agenda. Huh.

(Cheap joke, but when you lob a fat slow one over the plate like that you can't really expect me to resist.)

21 posted on 02/06/2013 7:34:49 AM PST by fractionated
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To: fractionated

>> Words to live by.

Let’s see... yesterday you were a gun hating troll; today you’re a faggot loving troll.

I think you need to find a forum more in line with your interests.


22 posted on 02/06/2013 7:35:38 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: fractionated
IBTZ...


23 posted on 02/06/2013 7:36:25 AM PST by erod (I'm a Chicagoan till Chicago ends...)
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To: Strategerist
Probably more accurately the equivalence is seen between not allowing gay marriage, and the old anti-miscengenation laws.

It's notable that the same lame argument is offered in both cases ("They have equal rights; they're allowed to marry a person of the [same race | opposite sex] just like we are.")

24 posted on 02/06/2013 7:36:40 AM PST by fractionated
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To: fractionated
McCain shot himself in the foot with a bad VP pick.

That is moronic. McCain's support before Palin was nothing, the crowds were energized by Palin. Right up until McInsane started talking up how good a Prez Obama would be.

25 posted on 02/06/2013 7:36:40 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: fractionated
Welcome to FR.

Did you see that study posted yesterday about how viewing porn made you more excepting of homosexuality, and gay marriage?

5.56mm

26 posted on 02/06/2013 7:37:30 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: skeeter

What’s there to defend?

The post is about whether young voters support gay marriage. It’s overwhelmingly obvious that they do.

And it’s well established that old people are going to die soon, and young voters are more likely to vote as they get older (and unlike views on taxes, etc, it’s unlikely their views on gay marriage will change much).

I don’t see any plausible method to persuade young voters to change their minds (and certainly the rhetoric seen on a typical FR thread won’t do it - at the first “perversion” or “fornication” mention they’ll tune out or start laughing at you.)


27 posted on 02/06/2013 7:38:21 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: fractionated
Ride the lightning, pillow biter.

IATZ

28 posted on 02/06/2013 7:39:01 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: fractionated

Catholics are not the ones wanting to normalize pedophilia


29 posted on 02/06/2013 7:39:28 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Its also part of leftist doctrine that kicks at the ethical underpinnings supporting western civilization.

Ignoring that such supports exist risk becoming morally unmoored and vulnerable to corruption as are the democrats.

30 posted on 02/06/2013 7:39:47 AM PST by skeeter
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To: M Kehoe
Did you see that study posted yesterday about how viewing porn made you more excepting of homosexuality, and gay marriage?

Which just supports the main thrust of the article. Young people watch a lot of porn. It's impossible to stop young people from watching porn, or persuade them not to do it.

31 posted on 02/06/2013 7:40:18 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: fractionated
Hey, Mitt-Lover or is it Steve S, himself.
Sen McCain and Gov. Palin WERE AHEAD until attacked by Romney.

In fact, were it not for Team Romney, it would have
been President McCain; but the backstabbing team would not permit THAT.


Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.


"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



32 posted on 02/06/2013 7:41:24 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GeronL

You got that right. If not for Palin Mccain would have been embarrassed. He was enbarrassing anyway with his saying Obama would be a great President.Doesn’t really matter though. Mccain is the power behind the RINO throne.


33 posted on 02/06/2013 7:41:35 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Strategerist

If you are right about the youth, then there is no hope for this country.


34 posted on 02/06/2013 7:41:35 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: GeronL

Palin was the only reason I bothered to vote in 08.

These so called “moderates” need to hike up their big girl panties and march on over to the democrat camp and moderate them. The republicans have been moderated into a coma and these Rovetards are pinching the feeding tube. If they really cared about moderation they would direct their fire at the democrats who are happily goose stepping into full on fascism.


35 posted on 02/06/2013 7:42:24 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: jboot

The ozone is now thick with this one.


36 posted on 02/06/2013 7:42:24 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Strategerist
I don’t see any plausible method to persuade...

Precisely the problem with today's GOP. Neither do they see any method to lead or to persuade anyone on anything. They're just goin' with the flow.

37 posted on 02/06/2013 7:42:24 AM PST by skeeter
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To: M Kehoe
excepting=accepting

Sheesh.

5.56mm

38 posted on 02/06/2013 7:42:33 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Strategerist

actually young voters are used to lying or concealing. The current under 24, yes an anecdote, that I have seen just ridicule the absured pro-homosexual teachers and PC teachings. They generally view all homosexuals as just potential molesters.


39 posted on 02/06/2013 7:42:54 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: cripplecreek; Venturer

No one was excited by McCain and I do not recall these liberturdians coming out for him until after he lost and reverted back to his RINOism


40 posted on 02/06/2013 7:45:11 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Admin Moderator

I love the smell of flaming gaytard troll in the morning. Thank you.


41 posted on 02/06/2013 7:45:26 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: fractionated

42 posted on 02/06/2013 7:46:09 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Strategerist
Good morning.

It's almost impossible to stop anyone from watching porn on the Internet. Sad.

See post 38.

5.56mm

43 posted on 02/06/2013 7:46:25 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: fractionated

This is being pushed by the Left as they know accepting perversion would relegate the GOP to a 10% party. Those who support perversion are not going to switch to voting GOP. Those who do not, the majority of current GOP voters, will not hang around the party any longer.


44 posted on 02/06/2013 7:47:18 AM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: fractionated
Post Toasties.

5.56mm

45 posted on 02/06/2013 7:48:43 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: skeeter

I suspect this is just further captitulation propaganda.


46 posted on 02/06/2013 7:50:57 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: fractionated

So alienate known supporters in hopes of gaining inroads for people who might still not vote for you in the end? Marvelous idea!


47 posted on 02/06/2013 7:52:09 AM PST by Sybeck1
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To: fractionated

Iowa DID NOT VOTE for gay marriage...neither did New York...it was FORCED upon them, one by court and one by pay-off to a State Senator, Dean Skellos. Keep lying liberal trolls!


48 posted on 02/06/2013 7:58:09 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: fractionated

I apologize. I didn’t know you were a priest.


49 posted on 02/06/2013 7:59:25 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?)
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To: fractionated

The government should not be imposing it’s religious beliefs (secular humanism) upon us. It is specifically prohibited from doing so by our Constitution.


50 posted on 02/06/2013 7:59:25 AM PST by jpsb
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