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Top Ten Problems with that Obama Skeet Shooting Picture
American Thinker ^ | 02/06/2013 | Marion DS Dreyfus

Posted on 02/06/2013 7:39:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind

It was a picture dredged up to prove the assertion the President had made in January to the breezy effect that the President is indeed acquainted with firearms, since, as he stated (roughly paraphrased), We've often shot skeet when we're at Camp David.

It took a few days, where conservative media baited the press secretary Jay Carney, for proof, any proof, and where the Democrats either pooh-poohed the need for proof, since the President rarely turns out to have accuracy as his first arrow out of the quiver, or they prayed-uncharacteristically -- that there were, somewhere, please Heaven, something to show that this was not another You didn't build that.

Herewith, a top ten listing of what makes one suspect the photo was bogus, cooked up with Photoshop or entirely composited, like the President's one "composite girlfriend" in his account of his 'dating life' before he became noteworthy and flew right into the radar. (And strange it is that there aren't women pouring out of the woodwork with pictures of their keeping company with the pre-President of his Columbia or Occidental days):

1. The President has no shoulder guard for recoil. No shoulder pad: He probably expected to "shoot" one single shot. And that was that. No need for a cumbersome padding for his shoulder. Not exactly a crackerjack constant practitioner, despite his avowal.

2. He is wearing sunglasses. Dark, tinted, sleek, stylized. Not what you wear to shoot skeet or any firearms practice. The correct protective gear is clear plastic goggles, usually rubbery and strapped around the head. Not Foster Grants.

3. The awkwardness of the President's stance leads one to believe he was insufficiently tutored. Or he had no idea what he was doing. And there were no handy-dandy experts around to correct his body language.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; obama; secondamendment; skeetshooting
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To: Oztrich Boy
Good morning.

I didn't see that on Swampsnipers first photo. Plus, it's odd how it blends in perfectly to the starboard port.

5.56mm

41 posted on 02/06/2013 8:37:59 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: ElkGroveDan

LOL!


42 posted on 02/06/2013 8:40:37 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: motor_racer
"I marvel at the millisecond timing exhibited by the one who took this shot, to get it just at the moment of firing"........................... It isn't improbable that the photographer took a number of photos to get one that Zero liked, so that's the really risible thing: This was the best they could do? OK, I know they didn't have much to work with--just a professional photographer, a sweet gun and all the time in the world, but silk purse, Obama. He must have been anxious to hit the links. "Stop mocking the president and the First Lady's caboose or we'll Hellfire this dog." Your White House (Have a nice day!)
43 posted on 02/06/2013 8:43:01 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

OK

I just checked Google Maps:

The skeet field is on the SW corner of Camp David firing NE towards the helipad across a large open field, with approximately 100 yards separating the two.

There appears to be a high fence running behind the semicircle between the low and high house. This fence does not appear in the shot.

The only skeet position that it would not appear behind a left-handed shooter is #7. What we should see in this shot is the open field with the heliport administrative buildings in the background.

I’m not sure what this picture represents, but it has nothing to do with skeet shooting at Camp David.


44 posted on 02/06/2013 8:43:31 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (The AR-15 is the Honda Civic of rifles)
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To: SeekAndFind
These type articles do disservice to conservatives and certainly do disservice to a publication titled "American Thinker".

1. The President has no shoulder guard for recoil. No shoulder pad: He probably expected to "shoot" one single shot. And that was that. No need for a cumbersome padding for his shoulder. Not exactly a crackerjack constant practitioner, despite his avowal.
Even 12 guage low brass shells don't produce enough recoil to require a shoulder pad.

2. He is wearing sunglasses. Dark, tinted, sleek, stylized. Not what you wear to shoot skeet or any firearms practice. The correct protective gear is clear plastic goggles, usually rubbery and strapped around the head. Not Foster Grants.
He isn't shooting competitively, just recreationally. If dark lenses are what he, or his PR people prefer, there's nothing wrong with it. Just do a Google image search on "skeet shooting" and you will see plenty of people shooting with dark glasses.
3. The awkwardness of the President's stance leads one to believe he was insufficiently tutored. Or he had no idea what he was doing. And there were no handy-dandy experts around to correct his body language. Stance is all in shooting, as is grip. BTW: The President is left-handed-does that square with his preferred shooting side?
If this was a right handed bolt action rifle, it might raise some eyebrows but for an over and under, it doesn't matter which side he shoots from. On another thread, someone pointed out that it's a left handed stock. Furthermore, if he didn't begin shooting until he became president, It's reasonable to assume he'd be shooting left handed and using left handed firearms since he never had to learn using someone elses right handed gun.
4. His shotgun is aimed straight ahead, where all skeet shooters we know of, including ourselves, follow the arc of the clay once the shooter yells "Pull!" Shooting straight is simply not doable, unless he is shooting at the person releasing the clay from its boot housing. The shotgun thus ought to be pointing up, to right or to left, at a strong angle to the ground.
Like birds, skeet can also fly low.
5. His hair is much greyer now than it was last year--the percentage of grey in the shot indicates he went back in time to get the picture, but forgot to match his hair black-to-grey ratio to match last year's follicular manifestation.
The background foliage and clothing are enough to tell you the photo wasn't taken two weeks ago at Camp David.
6. One picture? Why not scads? A photog almost always accompanies the President wherever he goes, save to the loo, perhaps. Do we understand that in the age of video and YouTube, cell phones with great cameras, tablets and throw-aways, there was but a single, lonely picture taken of this sport that the President claims to do "all the time"? Why no video? Why no pic-pac (my neologism), a strip of 4 sequential shots like we used to buy for $.50 from a machine with a tiny swivel-stool seat and a half-curtain of mustard-stained poly?
This could very possibly be a frame capture from an HD video.
7. Why was this so deep a secret until the President spilled the beans, declaring himself this virtuoso skeet aficionado? Not a whisper of this avocation escaped his lips or the lips of his confidants before his gambit to comfort second amendment fans and voters.
Because it was shot for use during the presidential campaign just in case a gun control or related issue arose during the campaign.
8. Can we ascertain with certitude that the photo background matches that to be found in Camp David? The CIA and FBI are aces at sussing out from a random area shot where something transpired. We did it for years around every photo of UBL, in a mountain redoubt, on a rock-strewn hillock, in a rural Afghani meadow, etc. Have we subjected this photograph to the same rigorous testing we employ with, say, Hezb'allah "war shots" accusing Israel, say, of atrocities and poison gas, cluster bombs, lethal resins and deliberate bombing of civilians? In that case, there is an entirely lovely coining, Faux-tography, developed to represent the array of deceit practiced by stringers in the pay of terror groups but not averse to pinning false charges on the Israelis by a mere flick of the computer COPY and PASTE technical wizardry.
Now the writer is really entering kookville. He could just as easily as anyone else obtained file images/video from Camp David and painstakingly gone through it trying to match background features.
9. Is the man in the photo even Barack Hussein Obama? Or is it a body double? The President famously conferred with Kathryn Bigelow of ZERO DARK THIRTY fame, giving her all manner of privileged and classified information in order to macho up the truth factor of her boffo capture-and-kill lenser on the triangulation leading to UBL's ballyhoo'ed capture and FedEx dispatch to the 72 virgins over in the stucco'ed, heavily reinforced Bin Ladin fortress in downtown Abbottabad, a mere mile or so from Afghanistan's West Point.

10. Good to note the President wore ear protection, which was an easy grab for the set designer to haul in. Does he have that ear-protective design still in his possession, or was it borrowed? Can we test for DNA?
Why not ask for the pants, shirt, watch, glasses or underwear?
45 posted on 02/06/2013 8:49:29 AM PST by fso301
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To: SeekAndFind

As for the lack of shoulder padding, it isn’t always needed.
I own 2 Mossberg 500 shotguns. They are just stock models without modifications. They were manufactured 11 years apart. They look identical, except for the fact that the stock on one is slightly lighter in color.
The newer one will give me a bruise with every shot. The one that’s 11 years older, kicks less than my Marlin Model 60 .22LR.
Since I can see no other differences, I attribute the lack of kick to some really nice damping from the wooden stock.


46 posted on 02/06/2013 8:50:58 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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To: motor_racer
The operative word being unbelievable.
47 posted on 02/06/2013 8:57:38 AM PST by Bob
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

(12) Overall, there is way too much “smoke”. Today’s smokeless powder is exactly that. This amount of smoke leads me to conclude that the load he is firing appears to be a non-projectile load; a “blank”.


Interesting. I just learned from credible internet sources that blank shotshells typically employ black powder, which is smoky compared to modern smokeless powders.


48 posted on 02/06/2013 9:03:37 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Tyranny -> Genocide)
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To: Oztrich Boy

One more possible indication of fakery is the muzzle smoke appears to come out of the muzzle only at the initial instant the camera shutter was open, and did not keep coming out at the muzzle blurred upward and to the rear. This makes it look like the smoke was photoshopped in later, and they didn't think about the muzzle's upward motion.

Instead it should be like a photo of a water hose nozzle, blurring during the shot, with the emitted source point of the stream of water blurring along with it.

There is no doubt in this shooters mind that muzzle gasses do not stop in an instant as would be required for this picture to be real.

49 posted on 02/06/2013 9:09:19 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Tyranny -> Genocide)
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To: Oztrich Boy

M’own darn fault for not checking the whole thread.....

Cheers,


50 posted on 02/06/2013 9:10:35 AM PST by petro45acp (No good endeavour survives an excess of adult supervision)
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Unless they used a VERY fast shutter speed, more motion of the shotgun should be visible due to muzzle rise / recoil.

I think he’s shooting blanks.


51 posted on 02/06/2013 9:10:59 AM PST by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: Mr. K
Hand crafted iron peep sights for the Marlin lever action rifles, reasonably priced.

http://www.skinnersights.com/


52 posted on 02/06/2013 9:19:39 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: fso301

Without getting all anal retentive about detail as we all have been doing, I’m going to cut to the chase, nice and simple.

The photo just plain looks shopped. And it is just like these clowns to fake it when it would have been simple to arrange an authentic picture/shoot. Even with a pussy amateur like Zero.

These people lie so much and so reflexively that I could win bets most of time just assuming whatever comes from them is a lie. That applies to this picture. Zero, the closet gun aficionado, suddenly an expert skeet shooter. Don’t need to see it, 9 to 1 it’s BS.

Remember, we are dealing with people that had the b*lls to put a pathetically shopped BC on the WH web site. And with the help of the American Pravda, walk away grinning.


53 posted on 02/06/2013 9:31:08 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not defending Obama, but:

1. When I shoot clays (12ga), I don’t use a shoulder pad. I guess I’m just bad-ass?

2. On particularly bright days at the range, I have worn my tinted protective glasses. (Doesn’t look bright in that photo.)

4. Sometimes when shooting a true double, I will try and pick up the second clay low on the horizon, thus resulting in a horizontal shotgun. Also, at Rocky Creek Sporting Clays in SC, they have one station with “the rabbit” - a clay that ROLLS along the ground. You *have* to shoot that one horizontally, obviously.

9 and 10 are over the top.

I’m getting sick of the “analysis” of this photo. He’s obviously a fake, but some of the analysis is contrived.


54 posted on 02/06/2013 9:46:26 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: SeekAndFind

I certainly am no expert on skeet shooting, but it would seem dangerous to have your cheek flesh hanging over the gun like that. He could shoot his eye out.


55 posted on 02/06/2013 9:47:16 AM PST by mom.mom
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To: Oztrich Boy

I’ve looked at the photo under magnification that is just short of complete pixelation.

Would it be safe to say that your interpretation is a very stiff wind coming from the shooter’s left, causing the left-ported gasses to be blown and blending into the right-side gasses?


56 posted on 02/06/2013 9:55:27 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

FReep of the day...


57 posted on 02/06/2013 10:03:35 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: motor_racer
I’m just an amateur photographer, but I marvel at the millisecond timing exhibited by the one who took this shot,

Almost all digital cameras, even cheap pocket models, have a multishot mode ... so ... Somebody says "go", Barackula the Destroyer fires the gun, and the photographer trips the camera. One of the several frames from the multi-shot is a winner, almost every time. Sports photographers have been playing this game for decades. Even in the days of film, they used motor-drives to rapid-fire the camera.

I know.

I used to do high school sports photography as a paid hobby.

58 posted on 02/06/2013 10:05:04 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: SeekAndFind
FOUND IT, FOUND IT, FOUND IT ———————

Sorry, but the whole debate is over. I found a picture of his instructor and he is doing everything EXACTLY as he was taught. Notice the vacant stare, point of the stock shoved firmly into the shoulder, complete ridiculousness of the situation - you learned well grasshopper!

It's the fourth picture down at the link below.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2274377/Kim-Kardashian-sparks-outrage-tweeting-picture-diamond-encrusted-gun-just-weeks-signing-Sandy-Hook-pledge.html#axzz2K8HpXrlO

59 posted on 02/06/2013 10:14:41 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Mr. K
The "judge" in .410 is plain silly. .45acp or .45colt makes a lot more sense as a self defense round. About the only thing a .410 might be good for is snakes...maybe.

Check out "box o' truth" for performance of the "judge".

That being said .410 can be reloaded.

60 posted on 02/06/2013 11:11:09 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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