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Bill Threatens Homeschool Freedom
Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) ^ | February 4, 2013

Posted on 02/06/2013 7:56:23 AM PST by Sopater

Proposed Bill 374 filed in the Connecticut General Assembly would require all homeschooled children ages 12, 14, and 17 to undergo a behavioral health assessment. These assessments would be conducted by an unspecified health care provider and would be conducted even though there was no indication whatsoever that these children had a behavioral problem. The bill states that the results of the assessments are to be disclosed only to the child’s parent or guardian, but that the health care provider must submit a form to the State Board of Education verifying that the child has received the assessment.

According to the Connecticut Behavioral Health Partnership, a state organization made up of the Department of Children and Families, Department of Social Services, Department of Mental Health and Addiction Services, and others, a behavioral health assessment is quite comprehensive and invasive. It includes “a review of physical and mental health, intelligence, school performance, employment, level of function in different domains including family situation, and behavior in the community.”

Proposed Bill 374 would essentially authorize the state to conduct regular social services investigations of homeschooling families without any basis to do so. This outrageous legislative proposal must be stopped in its tracks before it gains any momentum.

This legislation is sponsored by Sen. Toni Nathaniel Harp (10th Dist.) and Rep. Toni E. Walker (93rd Dist.). The bill is presently in the Public Health Committee. HSLDA is asking homeschoolers to immediately contact members of the committee and express their opposition to this unwarranted invasion of family privacy.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: democrats; donttreadonme; education; frhs; govtabuse; homeschool; liberalism; tyranny; waronliberty
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This needs to be stopped right away.
1 posted on 02/06/2013 7:56:26 AM PST by Sopater
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To: Sopater

backdoor registration of homeschools


2 posted on 02/06/2013 7:58:36 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Sopater

Why does the state feel they have to do this?


3 posted on 02/06/2013 7:58:46 AM PST by goldi
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To: Sopater

This is BS.Next each child will be evaluated in school and the parent wont be involved......


4 posted on 02/06/2013 7:59:41 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: goldi

isn’t that obvious?


5 posted on 02/06/2013 7:59:59 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: goldi

Why because it is liberal Connecticut.
Next question?
Make it a tuff one,that one was easy


6 posted on 02/06/2013 8:01:10 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Sopater

Sounds like unequal treatment under the law.


7 posted on 02/06/2013 8:02:49 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: metmom

homeschool ping.


8 posted on 02/06/2013 8:03:04 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: GeronL

It isn’t just homeschoolers. They want to build a data base of the childrens’ “mental health” in public schools too. The ramifications are enormous.

Oh, Johnny tested negative according to his mental health assessment when he was 17. No pistol permit for him.

Look, Nakeesha tested negative according to her health assessment when she was 6. She’ll get lifetime counseling at the taxpayer’s expense till she’s 18.

Poor, Juan. He tested negative at the age of 12. Time to start the Ritalin.

On and on...


9 posted on 02/06/2013 8:10:16 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Sopater

So let’s see

1. Adam Lanza was homeschooled

2. Homeschooling teaches kids to use AR15

3. Homeschooling teaches kids to go out and perform mass murders

4. Public schooled kids are not taught how to use AR15

6. Public schooled kids would never go out and perform mass murders

Hence, lets take all homeschoolers and make them pass mental tests

Makes sense to me...not


10 posted on 02/06/2013 8:10:42 AM PST by drinktheobamakoolaid (If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Sopater
Proposed Bill 374 would essentially authorize the state to conduct regular social services investigations of homeschooling families without any basis to do so.

The Supreme court has already ruled the home school child is not the property of the state like public schoolers. No tax dollars are going toward their education.

This needs to be fought and fought hard. Parents home school their kids so they do NOT turn out psychically, mentally, socially, or spiritually like the public school kids. That's the whole idea!

11 posted on 02/06/2013 8:13:31 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: goldi
Adam Lanza + Sandy Point Elementary School

IIRC, the murderer was being homeschooled at the time of the killings. Measure is probably meant to ensure that Connecticut has some way of detecting a child that is being hidden by his family under the guise of homeschooling because of untreated or poorly controlled behavioral problems.

12 posted on 02/06/2013 8:15:12 AM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort is the hammer that Human Will uses to forge Tomorrow on the anvil of Today.)
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To: goldi

Here’s THE question that will assess their “behavioral health”:

Do you think homosexuals have the right to marry?


13 posted on 02/06/2013 8:15:57 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Sopater

The State simply wants to verify the condition of Their property.

After all, They don’t have eyes and ears inside your home watching. Yet. /s


14 posted on 02/06/2013 8:20:52 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: GeronL

Someone should ask these two women why they are sponsoring this legislation and put them on the spot. Make them sorry they ever dreamt this one up.

What makes them think that home schoolers need to be evaluated for “behavior” by the state? Seems like harassment to me. Are public and private students evaluated by the state for “behavior”?

I imagine this legislation is going to go nowhere and hopefully their political careers will go nowhere too.

Parents who don’t home school could probably get annoyed by this too if they thought about it.

Gee, I wonder if they are democrats?


15 posted on 02/06/2013 8:21:19 AM PST by goldi
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To: Captain Rhino
Adam Lanza + Sandy Point Elementary School
IIRC, the murderer was being homeschooled at the time of the killings.

He was home schooled because of what was happening in the public school he was in. The mother was trying to save him from it . The damage had already been done.
So, instead of testing home schoolers, why not test all those who are in the public schools instead? The public school is what destroyed Lanza. THEY did nothing to help him. At least his mother tried to save him.

16 posted on 02/06/2013 8:22:09 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Sopater
behavioral health assessment

Sounds very...Orwellian...

17 posted on 02/06/2013 8:23:19 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Sopater

They hate anything they can’t control. Homeschooling is one of the few refuges where you can escape invasive, suffocating government control.


18 posted on 02/06/2013 8:23:46 AM PST by I want the USA back (Freedom of speech - a myth about a long-gone country.)
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To: Sopater

I would be putting an amendment on that bill that would mandate that all elected officials in the state be subject to the same criteria.


19 posted on 02/06/2013 8:27:24 AM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Sopater; verga; SoftballMominVA; shag377
HSLDA is asking homeschoolers to immediately contact members of the committee and express their opposition to this unwarranted invasion of family privacy.

They should be asking ALL parents, not just homeschoolers to contact members of the committee.

This is just so totally wrong.

20 posted on 02/06/2013 8:28:21 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: concerned about politics
He was home schooled because of what was happening in the public school he was in. The mother was trying to save him from it . The damage had already been done.

Any "damage" done by schooling was dwarfed by whatever deficiencies he had from birth, IMO. Look at a picture and tell me you can't clearly see that.

21 posted on 02/06/2013 8:28:43 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: goldi
>Why does the state feel they have to do this?<

Because they're liberals.

No matter how much power liberals have, it's never enough.

22 posted on 02/06/2013 8:32:31 AM PST by Jerrybob (Truth -- the new hate speech.)
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To: goldi
Gee, I wonder if they are democrats?

Probably. The public school system failed Lanza big time. So now they're trying to blame their own failure on his mother who attempted to save him. They're trying to point the finger away from themselves.

I couldn't believe the public school funerally they had for the bus driver that got shot last week. My gosh, they even used the school colors at his funeral. I was waiting to see cheer leaders and a marching band!
The guy was a man with a life, but the whole disgraceful thing was all about the friggen school! They used the poor mans body like their new school mascot!

23 posted on 02/06/2013 8:32:56 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Stormdog
I would be putting an amendment on that bill that would mandate that all elected officials in the state be subject to the same criteria.

Bad idea. Guess which legislators wold come out on the short end. Good guys like Joe Markley.

The lunatics truly are running the asylum.
24 posted on 02/06/2013 8:35:48 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: All
Read the bill. It's not just Home schoolers. It's for all kids in public school too!

Bill Text

25 posted on 02/06/2013 8:36:12 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“The lunatics truly are running the asylum.”


Yes, and as lunatics frequently do, they point the finger of blame for their illness at everyone and everything except themselves.


26 posted on 02/06/2013 8:39:34 AM PST by MWestMom (Will Americans stop someone who views our children as "collateral damage" in their quest for power?)
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To: concerned about politics

If the public school students were given a behavioral test WE defined they’d all fail ;)


27 posted on 02/06/2013 8:41:06 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: concerned about politics
The guy was a man with a life, but the whole disgraceful thing was all about the friggen school! They used the poor mans body like their new school mascot!

UH, hate to tell you this, but it is usually the family that makes these decisions. Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe it was the desire of the family and not some nefarious deed?

28 posted on 02/06/2013 8:45:36 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz
They should be asking ALL parents, not just homeschoolers to contact members of the committee. This is just so totally wrong.

I was going to SARCASTICALLY suggest that they test all children, but you know that there is some whacka doodle that will think that is a great idea and expand the legislation.

29 posted on 02/06/2013 8:48:27 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: verga

The legislation covers ALL school children.


30 posted on 02/06/2013 8:51:33 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz

Just saw that WTF.


32 posted on 02/06/2013 8:53:09 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Gabz
. Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe it was the desire of the family and not some nefarious deed?

Nope. In their grief, I'm sure they agreed to do what ever the school wanted to do. Think "rail roaded."
I believe later they'll look back an see the coldness of it all. They'll remember that he was a man - not a piece of broken school furniture, and then they'll mourn his death as they should.

34 posted on 02/06/2013 8:55:47 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: verga

That why I said what I said in my first post. Of course the haters will just blow that off and claim we deserve it because, well just because they say so and are our betters.


35 posted on 02/06/2013 8:58:00 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: metmom
Remember HR6 !!!! Let's shut down the Capitol switchboard again!

Legislative Commissioners' Office | 300 Capitol Avenue, Hartford CT 06106 | (T): 860-240-8410 | (F): 860-240-8414 | lco@cga.ct.gov

36 posted on 02/06/2013 9:01:28 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: raybbr
t's not just Home schoolers. It's for all kids in public school too!

However, it seems that private school children are NOT included...
37 posted on 02/06/2013 9:03:05 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: concerned about politics
Nope. In their grief, I'm sure they agreed to do what ever the school wanted to do. Think "rail roaded." I believe later they'll look back an see the coldness of it all. They'll remember that he was a man - not a piece of broken school furniture, and then they'll mourn his death as they should.

And of course you have compelling evidence that proves this beyond the shadow of a doubt. Otherwise you would just be bearing false witness.

38 posted on 02/06/2013 9:04:16 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: raybbr; wagglebee; little jeremiah; greyfoxx39; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; ...

HOMESCHOOL PING

This ping list is for articles of interest to homeschoolers. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping List. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added or removed from either list, or both.

The keyword for the FREE REPUBLIC HOMESCHOOLERS’ FORUM is frhf.

I'll try this again.....

This is a Connecticut issue it seems but

Remember HR6 !!!!

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This can be stopped just like HR6 was and if it isn't I can see other states following suit. This is probably going to be needed to be fought on almost every state level, if not the national level eventually.

39 posted on 02/06/2013 9:04:36 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Sopater

How about if we do a behavioral health assessment of all public school teachers and other government workers, first? Followed up with assessments for all the busybodies who want to “assess” our children in the first place?


40 posted on 02/06/2013 9:07:39 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: goldi

Why? Because the government hates competition. Because every home schooled student means less federal money for the school district. Because less federal money for the school district means less money for teachers unions.

Did I leave anything out?


41 posted on 02/06/2013 9:07:45 AM PST by GSWarrior (Click HERE to read entire tagline.)
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To: Sopater; All

Attorney Deb Stevenson of www.nheld.com recommends a cautious approach. Please read below:

Bulletin #74 CT Proposed Legislation Regarding Children’s Mental Health Assessment 02/04/2013

National Home Education Legal Defense responded to a proposed piece of legislation in the CT General Assembly introduced by Sen. Toni Nathaniel Harp, 10th Dist. and Rep. Toni E. Walker, 93rd Dist.

The bill is Senate Bill 374.

It states:

“AN ACT REQUIRING BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ASSESSMENTS FOR CHILDREN.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Assembly convened:

That section 10-206 of the general statutes be amended to require (1) each pupil enrolled in public school at grades 6, 8, 10 and 12 and each home-schooled child at ages 12, 14 and 17 to have a confidential behavioral health assessment, the results of which shall be disclosed only to the child’s parent or guardian, and (2) each health care provider performing a child’s behavioral health assessment to complete the appropriate form supplied by the State Board of Education verifying that the child has received the assessment.

Statement of Purpose: To provide behavioral health assessments to children.”

NHELD responded to the introduction of this legislation by writing:

NHELD does recommend that all parents should be aware, and keep track, of Proposed Senate Bill 374.

The bill does not specify anything about allowing any social services agency to become involved in your child’s healthcare. It simply states that the fact that an assessment was done will be provided to the State Department of Education. While anything is always possible, right now it is only a proposed bill - that is, an idea that is written down. We don’t know what the final language of the bill will look like, or whether it will be voted on in committee, or on the floor of the House or Senate. We need to be careful in how we approach anyone about this at this time.

Right now, it remains simply as a proposed bill, with only two sponsors: Rep. Toni Walker, and Senator Toni Harp. Before a bill becomes a law, after it is proposed, it must go through a screening process whereby legislative leaders determine whether it should be raised before the appropriate committee. In this case, the bill has been referred to the Public Health Committee. It is in the screening process at this point. The bill cannot go any further unless the appropriate committee acts upon it at one of its meetings. If the committee does not act on it, the bill dies. The first action the committee could take would be to place it on its agenda to determine if it will be scheduled for a public hearing. After the public hearing, the committee meets to vote on whether it will get approved to go further for action on the floor of the House and the Senate. If it gets a “joint favorable” vote in the committee, then the bill is placed on the calendar of the House and Senate and the leadership then determines when to call the bill for a vote on the floor of the House and Senate. At any point in this process, the bill also could be amended. If the leadership does not call the bill for a vote, the bill dies.

Again, right now, it is too soon to tell what will happen with this bill. NHELD is watching it and will update you as we find out more information. You also can, and should, watch what happens to it by going to the state’s website, clicking on the legislative branch, and then type in the bill number in the appropriate box. The agenda for the committee meetings are posted 24 hours before they meet. The Public Health Committee meets on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. The committee’s public hearings also are scheduled on those days. The committee must post notice of the agenda for the public hearings five days in advance of the hearing. Keep on top of it, and watch other potentially harmful bills as well. Each of us must do our part to protect our freedom.

Attorney Deborah G. Stevenson

Attorney Deborah Stevenson - Executive Director of National Home Education Legal Defense. – www.nheld.com or email : info@nheld.com
Judy Aron - Director of Research, NHELD – imjfaron@sbcglobal.net


42 posted on 02/06/2013 9:12:39 AM PST by Third Person (I'm in my prime.)
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To: Sopater
We homeshcool in Konnecticut. Our daughter is Special-Needs (Autism, high-functioning).

I don't want those nut-jobs anywhere near my daughter - WE determine the best treatment for her, she is OUR reponsibility, (she is doing quite well, thank you).

STAY AWAY FROM MY DAUGHTER YOU LEFTIST HACKS!!!

43 posted on 02/06/2013 9:14:39 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: concerned about politics

I guess we will agree to disagree here.............

I find it neither wrong, nor think it something forced upon them by outside forces. Not everything is some evil conspiracy by the evil public schools.


44 posted on 02/06/2013 9:17:02 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: sitetest

That works for me!!!!!


45 posted on 02/06/2013 9:18:19 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: GSWarrior
Did I leave anything out?

Homeschoolers and private schoolers are going to be the leaders of tomorrow. First, they're taught a more conservative lifestyle - plus they're getting a good education to back it all up.

Kids that are not in the public school also have no records that can be used against them later in life. Chicago type politics won't work on them.

Last, but not least, the more lives the public schools can destroy the more democrat voters there are. Unless they can get their hands on home schoolers and private schoolers, these kids are going to escape (and their numbers are growing rapidly).

46 posted on 02/06/2013 9:20:05 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Sopater

What’s next? The Final Solution for those deemed unfit?

Where the hell are the congressional republicans?


47 posted on 02/06/2013 9:22:24 AM PST by SusaninOhio
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To: SusaninOhio

Sorry - didn’t read article thoroughly, in too much of a hurry to get out the door -

See it is a state issue - and looks like it is getting the proper attention.

Will the libs never stop trying to control everything and everyone? Guess not.

Stand your ground!


48 posted on 02/06/2013 9:28:32 AM PST by SusaninOhio
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To: T-Bird45
Any "damage" done by schooling was dwarfed by whatever deficiencies he had from birth, IMO. Look at a picture and tell me you can't clearly see that.

I'm going to disagree with you; John Gatto says this: "After a long life, and thirty years in the public school trenches, I've concluded that genius is as common as dirt. We suppress our genius only because we haven't yet figured out how to manage a population of educated men and women." and, in the same essay, lays out the purpose of "public 'education'":

Inglis breaks down the purpose - the actual purpose - of modem schooling into six basic functions, any one of which is enough to curl the hair of those innocent enough to believe the three traditional goals listed earlier:
  1. The adjustive or adaptive function. Schools are to establish fixed habits of reaction to authority. This, of course, precludes critical judgment completely. It also pretty much destroys the idea that useful or interesting material should be taught, because you can't test for reflexive obedience until you know whether you can make kids learn, and do, foolish and boring things.
  2. The integrating function. This might well be called "the conformity function," because its intention is to make children as alike as possible. People who conform are predictable, and this is of great use to those who wish to harness and manipulate a large labor force.
  3. The diagnostic and directive function. School is meant to determine each student's proper social role. This is done by logging evidence mathematically and anecdotally on cumulative records. As in "your permanent record." Yes, you do have one.
  4. The differentiating function. Once their social role has been "diagnosed," children are to be sorted by role and trained only so far as their destination in the social machine merits - and not one step further. So much for making kids their personal best.
  5. The selective function. This refers not to human choice at all but to Darwin's theory of natural selection as applied to what he called "favored races." In short, the idea is to help things along by consciously attempting to improve the breeding stock. Schools are meant to tag the unfit - with poor grades, remedial placement, and other punishments - clearly enough that their peers will accept them as inferior and effectively bar them from the reproductive sweepstakes. That's what all those little humiliations from first grade onward were intended to do: wash the dirt down the drain.
  6. The propaedeutic function. The societal system implied by these rules will require an elite group of caretakers. To that end, a small fraction of the kids will quietly be taught how to manage this continuing project, how to watch over and control a population deliberately dumbed down and declawed in order that government might proceed unchallenged and corporations might never want for obedient labor.

49 posted on 02/06/2013 9:33:24 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: GSWarrior

Yes, the indoctrination to make all the children good little socialist drones.


50 posted on 02/06/2013 9:34:25 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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