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Boy Scouts: We need more time for decision on gay membership (They tabled the motion)
NBC News ^ | February 6, 2013 | Miranda Leitsinger

Posted on 02/06/2013 8:10:52 AM PST by Zakeet

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To: longtermmemmory

That we even NEED to keep the pressure on them is grievous beyond words. This should be a battle that we don’t even need to fight. Pathetic.

Yes, fully agree. The two homo-activists must be removed from the board, with no apologies or compensation.


51 posted on 02/06/2013 9:36:01 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Big problem for BSA having corporate leaders on the Board of Directors. These guys won’t separate their “diversity” requirements instituted in business from the rights to freely associate (and thus not associate) in private. There’s a huge difference between working in the same office with a homosexual and allowing an individual who admittedly is aroused by someone of the same sex to go camping and otherwise be in close quarters and little privacy with young boys.
Hopefully when this comes to a vote and they lose, big time I pray, these two simply resign. Expect there to be repercussions to individuals who stand up - the Board will probably need to rely more and more on retired individuals to fill its positions, those who can afford to stand on principle without having their business damaged, which the left will attempt to do. Of course Chik Fil A proves the businesses can survive and thrive, just not that many with the willingness to stand up.


52 posted on 02/06/2013 9:36:57 AM PST by LibertyOh
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To: dfwgator
It shows there's a rift, and rifts can be exploited.

Absolutely...remember, the Devil was a "sower of discord." Some of the weaker members have obviously chosen the wrong side. The problem is that they may be weak, but they have the Federal Government and the media behind them. By May, there will either be an open "schism" in the Scouts, or there will be total capitulation, forcing those who don't agree to go off and form their own organizations.

Fortunately, I think there are a lot of creative people dedicated to the education of youth who might actually welcome the challenge.

Baden-Powell is probably upchucking in his grave even as we speak, however.

53 posted on 02/06/2013 9:37:41 AM PST by livius
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To: Zakeet
The complexity of the issue.

The issue is NOT complex!

54 posted on 02/06/2013 9:38:58 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: dfwgator; Secret Agent Man
P> RE :”But the BScouts survive on donations..
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They shouldn't have to rely on Corporate donations...that is making a 'deal with the devil'

Simple solution. Form your own non-profit charity and give them big donations from many like-minded others under the conditions that you state, in this case keeping their current policy on gays. (but keep the overhead low)

Talk is cheap.

If they lose all their donors (now) like me who dont want the policy to change , what you think their options would be on this? Only one.

Those who think this important should talk with their $$$.

55 posted on 02/06/2013 9:39:01 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: Zakeet

I see this as a good sign. Having been involved in large organizations for a couple of decades I can say that the way to create a revolt or an upheaval is all-at-once on short notice, which is what I thought was expecting happen. The way to STOP that kind of take-over is to gather enough votes to table the key motion and buy time. When that happens the status quo usually comes out ahead on the next vote. It is important now however for defenders of the scouts to mobilize, get their ducks in order and make sure they overwhelm the next meeting, perhaps making a motion to take it up and the next full convention (which will totally kill it).


56 posted on 02/06/2013 9:44:42 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Wow. THIS is bad.

Not likely. It probably means the pro-homos don't have the votes to overturn the policy, so, instead of it being soundly defeated, they made sure to "table" it.

Live to fight another day and all that.

57 posted on 02/06/2013 9:49:10 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: longtermmemmory

Randall Stephenson is next in line for the top chair.

These two need to be kicked out the door.


58 posted on 02/06/2013 9:58:32 AM PST by lost in the snow (One PO'ed Scout Master and Proud of the HIGH moral ground)
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To: Zakeet

Translation:

Wow, we really did not think that our members, leaders and charter organizations would respond so strongly against or attempt to push the burden of the decision down to the unit level.

Well we can’t tick or members off, and we dont want to have the gay nazis after us again, so we will come up with a face saving measure that kicks the can further down the road.


59 posted on 02/06/2013 10:10:40 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Zakeet

There is NOTHING complex about the issue! Abandon God and the beliefs of 5000 years of civilization, and see how many people continue to support scouting.


60 posted on 02/06/2013 10:28:52 AM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: fwdude

This is the scouting teaching moment, the price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

They may get the thirty pieces of silver but parents will vote with their feet, their time, and their children’s attendance.

Those two need to go.

Perhaps it is time to start demandming resignation petitions.


61 posted on 02/06/2013 12:43:02 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: sickoflibs

First they issue a statement as a group not as individuals.

Second they are not getting tons of donations from gays. They have a clear “no gay” policy, this is a no-brainer they aren’t getting donations from pro-gay groups or individual gays.

Third, gays are not going after businesses for donations to the scouts. Not nearly as much as to have BSA consider letting gays into scouts. The lack of stories in the libtard media is evidence (or lack of) because this stuff is what they live to print.

Fourth if that means donations go down, that means you make do with less and ask more from the donors that are with you. And plan additional fundraising events.

I think you need to get some numbers to show if they stay “no gay” will seriously hurt them. That’s the whole crux of your position and you have nothing to back it up except speculation. Since you’ve set your whole argument on money you ought to have some evidence that backs your claim.


62 posted on 02/06/2013 2:52:10 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: mikemoose
For 103 years, the Boy Scouts of America has been a part of the fabric of this nation, providing its youth program of character development and values-based leadership training. In the past two weeks, Scouting has received an outpouring of feedback from the American public. It reinforces how deeply people care about Scouting and how passionate they are about the organization.

After careful consideration and extensive dialogue within the Scouting family, along with comments from those outside the organization, the volunteer officers of the Boy Scouts of America’s National Executive Board concluded that due to the complexity of this issue, the organization needs time for a more deliberate review of its membership policy.

To that end, the National Executive Board directed its committees to further engage representatives of Scouting’s membership and listen to their perspectives and concerns. This will assist the officers’ work on a resolution on membership standards. The approximately 1,400 voting members of the National Council will take action on the resolution at the National Annual Meeting in May 2013.

OK. Fine.

Take a vote.

But really ... should it even come to that?

Shouldn't the directors have the guts to stand up and say "Not merely 'no', but 'HELL NO!!!!!'"

63 posted on 02/06/2013 2:55:55 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Zakeet
Boy Scouts of America’s National Executive Board concluded that due to the complexity of this issue,

Complexity??? COMPLEXITY?!?!?!?!

There is no 'complexity'.

It's quite simple:

Faggots like to bugger boys. It's what they do.

Therefore, faggots like to get into positions of social leadership, where they have access to and authority over boys.

Any organization of any sort that necessarily involves working with boys in large numbers absolutely MUST exclude faggots from positions of leadership.

Failure to do so WILL lead to faggots raping boys.

64 posted on 02/06/2013 3:01:06 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Yes. I will be applying as much pressure as possible.

In the meantime, I’ll be dumping my AT&T service completely for an alternative. All good conservatives should do the same, even if we have to resort to Dixie cups and string.


65 posted on 02/06/2013 3:04:46 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: longtermmemmory; All

The obvious move should be to purge the board leadership of the Gay supporters and announce a policy of not accepting corporate monies. Instead, they should make a direct appeal for folks to make direct contributions of monies to the BSA and not thru their places of employment. The BSA fears the loss of funds more than the loss of moral posture. They took corporate monies and they became slaves to the corporations’ political whims!

If its become about the fear of a loss of corporate funding, then the BSA might as well close up shop!


66 posted on 02/07/2013 3:51:54 AM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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To: mdmathis6

local councils should start taking and anouncing votes that if the policy changes they are out.

lets wait and see, is what the BOD was BEGGING the local troups to do.

No is the time to be prepared.

Vote on the local level to reject any endangering change.
Vote to demand the resignation of the two instigators.
Bind the 1400 voting members to vote the way the membership wants by passing a binding voting resolution.


67 posted on 02/07/2013 8:16:41 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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