Skip to comments.Embattled Scott plans $100M campaign vs. Crist [Florida, Let's Put Rick Back in Charge!]
Posted on 02/06/2013 9:43:36 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
Rick Scott is preparing to defend his Florida governorship with the most expensive reelection campaign in state history, drawing up plans for a battleship-sized political operation aimed at overcoming the Republicans deep personal unpopularity.
The anticipated price tag, according to sources familiar with Scotts plans: $100 million.
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The media, the teachers unions and the thugs of Leon, Broward, Dade and Monroe counties will all be licking Charlie's backside...which means Rick will have a fight on his hands.
We can win this, though!
Florida big news ping!
Somebody ask Senator Cornyn if he’ll back Crist again!
OMG. ..Crist? Incredible; the only thing that has more ‘staying power’ than these Libs; are cockroaches. Actually; if one thinks about it; the Libs win - as we have ‘solutions’ to the latter.
I can’t remember, who was it who gave us Crist in the first place? Rove and the Bushes, I think.
Same guys who gave us Arnie and Lincoln Chaffee.
I don't want Scott... I'd love to see Adam Putnam as governor.
Ask Alan West what it takes to win in Florida.
Unless you can clean up the fraud mill that runs the Elections in Florida, we have no chance of beating back the Progressive Commie scum.
You forgot Alachua County, although Christ may not be far left enough.
IIRC, he was giftwrapped by Jeb Bush as his supposedly worthy replacement.
No, I remember that election. Jeb Bush, his predecessor, was noticeably mum during that campaign.
We can win if Scott steps aside for a Republican who’s approval rating is not in the toilet. It looks if Scott is nominee or if he so brutalizes whoever beats him in the primary that they can’t win either he’ll hand the office to the democrats, possibly newly democrat Charlie Crist if he can win the rat primary.
He should put his own ambition aside and do what is right for the party. I’m sure you will flame me now since you clearly like him but the numbers paint a dismal picture for his chances at reelection and I doubt 100 mil in tv ads will change that.
I know in earlier thread you referenced the mistake of nominating "whatever amateur screams the loudest that they are King or Queen of the Tea party". That really fits Rick Scott to a tee. This guy literally came out of nowhere and had a paper thin resume for the job when he was handed the GOP nomination for Governor by the tea party in 2010. Fortunately for him, he was running in a big GOP year against a week Dem, so he managed to eek to victory by 1% whereas other "tea party" amateurs got clobbered.
>> He should put his own ambition aside and do what is right for the party. Im sure you will flame me now since you clearly like him but the numbers paint a dismal picture for his chances at reelection and I doubt 100 mil in tv ads will change that. <<
Heh. I said the same thing about Senator Sununu when he was tied to the hip of Bush and consistently trailing ex-RAT Governor Shaheen in 2006, and got flamed for it. The hilarious thing is Sununu HIMSELF made the same argument six years earlier when Bob Smith was losing to Shaheen, but wouldn't take his own advice when he was in that situation. It's like Gingrirch/Oberweis "we must ALL vote for the highest polling conservative so we don't split the conservative vote" rule... the candidate's supporters only preach it when it benefits their guy in the primary. ;-)
Scott has too much invested at this point to step aside (and for whom would he do so ? Jeb Bush ?). The big question is whether Democrat pols in FL are just going to sit by quietly and allow Crist to be handed the nomination. The guy is a world class opportunist.
As for the Sununu situation in NH, the question would’ve been then as it is now: who else would’ve run ? Drafted an unknown person who was sure to lose ? Of the first-tier candidates in NH, there were next to none. Look what happened to Ovide Lamontagne, who was all but expected to waltz into the Governor’s office last November, and he was blitzed in a painful replay of his race against Shaheen in 1996.
Indeed, had Sununu simply dropped out after a single term and had someone else taken his place, he’d have been rightfully crucified for pulling a Paul Trible or Dan Coats. It’s doubtful even the most well-regarded Republican could’ve won in 2008 against Shaheen. It appears now they may try to have Sununu, Jr. run yet again in ‘14. As with before, if only because we have no farm team.
I agree that the NH GOP had no one who would run as strongly as Sununu in the 2008 Senate race, but the same cannot be said for the FL GOP regarding the FL GOP. Off the top of my head, there’s Lt. Gov. Jennifer Carroll, Commissioner of Agriculture (and former Congressman) Adam Putman, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Chief Financial Officer (and former Senate Presdient) Jeff Atwater, and former Congressman Lincoln Díaz-Balart.
Governor Scott barely won with the wind at his back in 2010, and he’s done nothing but taken lumps since then. I think that before he spends $100 million on his reelection he should ponder whether it will make a difference, and whether it would be wiser to step aside and allow a conservative Republican with a better chance of winning run for governor.
Gosh, I had a couple of stupid mistakes in that post (and I can’t even blame my iPhone this time):
“regarding the FL GOP” = “regarding the 2014 gubernatorial race”
“Senate Presdient” = “Senate President”
He has cut spending, the state’s credit rating has been upgraded, and jobs have been created—he is on pace to fulfill his campaign pledge.
I say instead of wringing our hands about the obstacles we stand behind his SOLID record.
The question is, will Scott continue to say no to Obamacare?
Perdogg, Since seeing that post about the EXCHANGES, I don’t have the dread you express.
Seems to me these governors are taking advantage of a big legal loophole the assclown put in his piece of crap law....
Though overall, I disagree with federal funding for this crap, the rejection of “exchanges” seems to really cut the legs out from under Obamacare....
Happens to me all the time. And I run this stuff through the built-in FR spell checker twice, and still end up with a ton of typos and grammar mistakes (usually missing words) that I dont notice until AFTER Ive posted my comments. Ugh! :-)
>> I agree that the NH GOP had no one who would run as strongly as Sununu in the 2008 Senate race <<
Yeah, yeah, yeah... a mere two years after the "NH GOP has no farm team so we GOTTA run well known politicians kids to be competitive in that state", Kelly Ayotte was elected the U.S. Senate. Hell, Wisconsin elected an unknown businessman from the private sector in 2010, and tried to catch lighting in the bottle a second time in 2012 with Eric Hovde (that wasn't going to happen). The RATs are much more effective than us at electing previously unknown state legislators and private sector people to the U.S. Senate. Republicans rarely try, we just recycle big name establishment pols. The exception is tea party stars, but as Impy says, a lot of them lack saavy and discipline on the campaign trail so they crash and burn. There has to be a middle ground between establishment entrenched pols and clueless amateurs.
I have to admit though, looking back in hindsight, it was a terrible year for Republicans in 2008 with Obama on top of the ticket, so we would have probably lost that seat anyway. However, that was the peak of the Dems milking "it's BUSH'S fault!!" and beating the GOP over the head with Bush, so I firmly believe a non Bushbot candidate that the Dems couldn't use as a scapegoat ("he voted to give a blank check to BUSH'S illegal war!!" blah blah blah) would have done better than Sununu did. My guess is a decent likeable non-Sunun Republican might have gotten 47-48%, as opposed to Sununu's 45%, but a loss is still a loss.
>> regarding the FL GOP. Off the top of my head, theres Lt. Gov. Jennifer Carroll, Commissioner of Agriculture (and former Congressman) Adam Putman, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Chief Financial Officer (and former Senate Presdient) Jeff Atwater, and former Congressman Lincoln Díaz-Balart. <<
Good point, we have a number of A-list candidates in Florida. I'd oppose a run by the borderline RINOish Lincoln Díaz-Balart, Jennifer Carroll would be ideal but I'm worried the Dems could also tie her to the unpopular Scott, and Putman seems to have a ton of tea party fans but has been underwhelming so far (yeah, yeah, yeah, "he ran in a liberal district and he was the only Republican we could have run there"... still doesn't explain him going nowhere when he jumped into the Senate race). But in any case, I think they'd all be stronger than Scott.
>> Scott has done a very good job. <<
Then why are his approval ratings in the toilet and he's losing by 14 points to the highly unpopular flip-flopping opportunist Charlie Crist? (and remember, this is right after Crist got killed in a Senate race). You can't use the "He pissed off liberal constituencies" excuse since Florida is a swing state and leans to the right. Clearly he has aligned a large chuck of the FL electorate. I disagree with Impy and AuH2ORepublican that his re-election prospects are doomed... November 2014 is a long way away and this guy can afford to spend whatever he needs to get his message out, but right now his re-election prospects are dim. If the election was held tomorrow, he'd get killed. I hope he improves in the next few months, otherwise I'd have to agree with them that he needs to put aside his ego and gracefully bow out so other Republicans have a shot.
The source is listed in the article for this thread if you read it. It’s a Quinnipiac University poll. They polled voters across the entire state of Florida, not some random Democrat county. It also states “among self identified Republicans allegedly Scotts base 37 percent disapproved of how he is handling his business.” If this poll was a fluke and other polls were showing Rick Scott is popular and well liked, that would one thing, but he’s been consistently polling as unpopular no matter what polling firm takes the survey. How do you explain that?
I think you're confusing Adam Putnam for someone else--likely for former state representative Adam Hasner. Putnam served in Congress for 10 years, representing Polk County (halfway between Tampa/St. Pete and Orlando) and compiled a lifetime ACR rating of 90.80; he retired in 2010 to run statewide and was elected Commissioner of Agriculture. Oh, and he's only 38 years old. His only downside is that he looks like Opie Taylor.
As for Governor Scott, I didn't say that his electoral prospects are "doomed," merely that he should consider his odds of winning before sinking $100 million into his reelection and perhaps sabotaging another conservative Republican's chances of winning. I agree that one poll 21 months before the election (and 18 months before the primary) is insufficient to make the call, but he's got quite a while before he has to make up his mind.
From December 11 - 17, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,261 registered voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percentage points. Live interviewers call land lines and cell phones.
I can only say the demographics are murky. They haven't identified the calls were made all across Florida and while they identify the calls were made to registered voters, they don't identify the affiliations of the focus group.
Personally, I don't put much stock in the Quinnipiac polls.
You’re right, I was thinking of Adam Hasner when I weighed-in on Adam Putnam. Lots of gaffe’s today on FR. And too many politicians in Florida named Al or Adam! It’s like all the guys with the last name Ryan getting on the ballot in Illinois. (I’m surprised nobody mentioned the Ryan curse in Illinois when Paul Ryan got the veep nomination, my GOP township president said he didn’t even realize it until I brought it up)
remember crist “married” into a big money democrat party family.
he also came out for fetish based marriage and pro everything communist.
I wouldn't put much stock in it either, if Quinnipiac was reporting he was unpopular but other polls showed he was doing fine. The problem is that Rick Scott has dismal poll numbers no matter what polling firm does the survey.
The Times/Herald/Bay News, Public Policy Polling, Suffolk, Mason-Dixon, Zogby, Rasmussen, and the Florida Poll all report the same thing in recent months: far more Floridians have an unfavorable than a favorable view of him (http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo.com/contests/rick-scott-favorability-fl). Of course liberals are going to hate him, but he's also polling terribly with independents.
If he has done a very good job as Governor, why the public believe otherwise? It's a sincere question. Either the information about what he's done hasn't gotten out there, or they believe the negative attacks on him. Refusing to accept these polls are legit does conservatives no good. When George Allen was struggling against Jim Webb in every poll, his fan club here just blew it off and claimed every single poll was biased and "if it says he's 8 points behind, that means he's REALLY 2 points ahead". As a result of not taking the DemonRat threat seriously, the result was Senator Webb.
I don't want the orange skinned freak back in the Governor's office. Let's take these polls seriously and start thinking about what can done to stop that.
The Florida Governorship (that of the largest competitive state) is of great national importance. I would not risk it over admiration for one man. Nevada’s Governor was unpopular, he was primaried out and GOP kept the office. Gibbons didn’t have 100 mil to scare challengers away though, if that happens we may have no option but Scott.
He could turn things around I guess, there is time. But that does not seem likely to me.
Don’t forget Senate Speaker Will Weatherford... so if Scott drops out... it will be interesting...