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I'm at Odds with My Fellow Conservatives; I Support Kasich's Move to Expand Medicaid
Yahoo US News ^ | 2-6-2013 | Mary C. Kirchhoff

Posted on 02/06/2013 10:01:11 AM PST by InHisService

As an Ohioan and a conservative, I am in favor of Governor John Kasich's move to expand Medicaid. Kasich had opposed President Obama's healthcare reform law and many conservatives are up in arms over his proposal.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: governorkasich; kashich; medicaid; medicaidohio
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To: sickoflibs

No, I don’t, but I know Kasich is on his show from time to time. And Maryland is not relevant to a Kasich conversation. Kasich ran his mouth about what a great small government conservative he was, but he has been weenied by Obama winning Ohio.

Again, he knew Ohio well BEFORE he ran for Gov - if he was going to be blown about by the winds of Ohio’s libs, he should have never run.


41 posted on 02/06/2013 11:39:46 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Logical me

“It is my firm belief that every American should have medical care”

So you’re a socialist. Good to know.

“...it was a State decision and program. Federalizing a program is not constitutional”

The only problem with Obamacare is that it’s unconstitutional? Socialusm is a-okay—or a good idea in need of tweaking—so long as it’s on the state level? What else should states be doing? Banning profits? Requiring licenses for all businesses whatsoever? Confiscatory tax rates? Free three square meals a day for everybody? Free university education? Gubmint takeover of fast food joints? Mandatory wearing of unisex jumpsuits in public, so as not to stand out from your fellowman and possibly make others feel bad?

I’m just curious how far you go.


42 posted on 02/06/2013 12:23:52 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: InHisService

So conservatism consists of being against abortion and gay marriage and for guns? Everything else is a matter of the heart? I don’t know what you are, but it’s not in my book conservative.


43 posted on 02/06/2013 12:27:52 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: InHisService

“Do you know whay it’s like to live without health insurance”

Yes. I also know what it’s like to live without a car or nice clothes or steak dinners every night or a home of my own. I also don’t go around beghing fir other people to give them to me.

“especially when you are working and paying into the system?”

What system? If you’re working you can buy insurance, so long as you prioritize it. Unless you’re one of those uninsurables people are holding over our heads and for whose sake we are to overturn the industry, for some reason. Well, I hate to break it to you, but what they’re looking for isn’t insurance.


44 posted on 02/06/2013 12:33:03 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: InHisService

By the way, the dilemma you present is a perfect argument for why we should scrap medicaid, along with the rest of the Welfare State with its perverse incentives, not why we need to expand the bounds of socialism. As if we needed more reason than that we’re deadbeat broke.


45 posted on 02/06/2013 12:37:53 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: sickoflibs

So “moderates” are Rush’s bete noire because he wants Dems in power to boost ratings? He isn’t what I’d call the most intellectually consistent guy, and might slot his conscience’s throat to stay in power. But I find this highly incredible. You’re taking liberties to win the age-old victory versus purity debate. Go to any number of current Karl Rove thread to see how the lines have been drawn. Even Rovian establishment types, near as I can tell, haven’t yet advised Pubs to expand medicaid in the states to keep Dems from office lest they expand it ever so slightly more.

This from the guys who nominated Mitt Romneycare.


46 posted on 02/06/2013 12:47:31 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

Private insurance is not affordable. It is very expensive and most people who are living near the poverty level certainly cannot afford it.


47 posted on 02/06/2013 2:10:04 PM PST by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: kabar
Is it your firm belief that every American should have a plentiful supply of food? Or adequate shelter? Or a telephone? Or a car?

Don't forget about puppies.

48 posted on 02/06/2013 2:12:04 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: InHisService
Here is a link to a study that Kasich is probably relying on for his decision. Note who did it and who paid for it (liberal groups)

http://a5e8c023c8899218225edfa4b02e4d9734e01a28.gripelements.com/pdf/publications/oh_medicaid_expansion_study_1_15_2013_final_numbered.pdf

Remember, more people receiving welfare from the government, more people who will vote Democrat.

49 posted on 02/06/2013 3:01:45 PM PST by A. Patriot (Re-electing Obama is like the Titanic backing up to hit the iceberg again.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; Tublecane; Impy; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; Perdogg; ...
RE :”Again, he knew Ohio well BEFORE he ran for Gov - if he was going to be blown about by the winds of Ohio’s libs, he should have never run.”

Unless he is running for POTUS I don't see any benefit from his perspective for his saying no to this medicaid Federal Handout.
Seems that if he turned it down in effect blocking the working poor single Moms and their kids from health insurance from the Feds he would be despised in his state.

After all he can look back at the DC house Rs the past two years who repealed O care >20 times and then lost seats, and the law still stands without a scratch.

Ever see Eastwood's movie Letters from Iwo Jima ?

I recall they told the island Japanese commander that they had no ship support for them, no more weapons and they were taking away the remaining planes to Japan, and no more ammunition either, as Americans are preparing to invade the Island.

So what did they send? A message telling them they expected them to die with honor, and a recording of a group of Japanese children singing “little Island Iwo Jima, only you can save Japan” to keep them going.

You wont find Republicans willing to do that.

Talk radio is like that inspiring message, its their game.

50 posted on 02/06/2013 8:08:03 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: sickoflibs

You’re talking about literal suicide, which this simply wouldn’t be. If you wanna allegorize stories of Japan in WWII, what about how they agreed to basically the exact same terns of surrender that eventually settled the war before Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Washington said naw, we’d rather nuke you a couple times if it’s all the same to you. That’s basically what Pubs get by playing the welfare game.

By the way, maybe it’s not about wgat’ll benefit him. Someone, somewhere, at some point is gonna hafta say no on principle, or we’re all doomed.


51 posted on 02/06/2013 9:03:03 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane; Logical me
So you’re a socialist. Good to know.

I see this one hasn't answered you yet.

Pretty surprised that someone would post such socialistic, big-goverment drivel on FreeRepublic.


52 posted on 02/06/2013 9:19:34 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: Tublecane

We’re basically condemning our grandchildren to fiscal servitude with this ridiculous spending.

They will curse our generation for what we’ve done.


53 posted on 02/06/2013 9:26:09 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: InHisService

The purpose of Medicare, Medicaid and Obama”care” is to destroy the financial future of your descendants.

Governing and Medical Accounting have NOTHING in common, nothing!


54 posted on 02/06/2013 9:43:39 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: sickoflibs

They’s wusses.

Ohio leg should be safe for the next 10 years.

Kasich could lose reelection though.


55 posted on 02/06/2013 9:50:16 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: InHisService

At least a 50% chance this broad isn’t a conservative at all.


56 posted on 02/06/2013 10:00:39 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Tublecane
RE:”By the way, maybe it’s not about wgat’ll benefit him. Someone, somewhere, at some point is gonna hafta say no on principle, or we’re all doomed.”

Not just him but his state. I assume he lives there,

Speaking of doomed,
Christie went all out slamming the GOP house for not getting him that $$$ fast enough, clearly just a re-election ploy to the liberal NJ voters.
What kind of lesson will be learned when it works?

I would say we are doomed. The GOP at the national level were a big part of it, making believe that 2012 was 2010 and acting stupid while O out-witted them at every turn. These governors realize that they are on their own.

57 posted on 02/07/2013 4:50:06 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: InHisService

“I am a Christian Conservative.”

You’re also a serial blogpimp.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:inhisservice/index?tab=articles

All blogpimps go to hell. Did you know?


58 posted on 02/07/2013 6:00:38 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

You really must have a sad and lonely life. I pity you.


59 posted on 02/07/2013 10:23:13 AM PST by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: InHisService
You really must have a sad and lonely life. I pity you.

Thanks.

At least I have not yet sunk so low as to try to gain attention
and validation and beer money by redirecting traffic to my blog.

But hey.. it's early.

60 posted on 02/07/2013 10:42:15 AM PST by humblegunner
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