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Sandy Hook DA cites 'potential suspects,' fears witness safety
http://digitaljournal.com ^ | February 5, 2013 | By Ralph Lopez

Posted on 02/06/2013 11:30:20 AM PST by ExxonPatrolUs

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To: RummyChick
http://www.advisory.com/Daily-Briefing/2012/12/18/Newtowns-first-responders-Theres-nothing-we-could-do

"EMT Roger Connor became the emergency services coordinator when he arrived on the scene. He began organizing ambulance crews and readying teams to transport the wounded to local hospitals. But, as time passed and no more victims emerged, the first responders began to realize the enormity of the massacre.

"Unfortunately, we only got to work on two people instead of 26 that we maybe could have helped," Halstead told "Good Morning America.""

"Finally, police announced there would be no more victims requiring medical assistance."
101 posted on 02/06/2013 3:03:35 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Jack Hammer

Hey Jack,

This is a fact. The Connecticut DA’s Office thinks that Lanza did not act alone.

“The statement by the CT prosecutor’s office is the first indication from state authorities that Adam Lanza may have not acted alone. The statement was made in support of a motion to continue the seal on the results of five search warrants for 90 more days.”

Whoa! Do you suppose it was the Islamofascists? Was it a group of home grown Obama inspired anarchists taking advantage of Lanza? I would love to know the prosecutor’s theory.


102 posted on 02/06/2013 3:05:52 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: TigersEye

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-12-30/lifestyle/36070993_1_first-responders-newtown-school-newtown-officers

Maybe this will clue you in

Although it does claim that a paramedic came outside and told the Firechief that no surivors left inside. Firechief is not the one that made that determination.


103 posted on 02/06/2013 3:08:33 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: 1rudeboy

tax fraud???
Heslin’s friend
Botti was charged with trying to bribe an official over a land deal and mail fraud.


104 posted on 02/06/2013 3:14:01 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: 1rudeboy
Can you prove the maze pattern was not created by aliens?

You're right -- I can't -- and of course aliens do like to eat maize and corn tortillas.

105 posted on 02/06/2013 3:14:29 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: 1rudeboy
‘It's a criminal investigation, for cripe’s sake.’

Yes, I can see your point.

If there are other suspects that are involved that the police do not want to tip off by releasing news of the investigation, that would make sense.

If there are other suspects that were involved, would they not be considered dangerous and a potential hazard to the public at large?

Should not APBs be posted attempting to find the whereabouts of the other perpetrators?

Here now comes the but(t)...

But, if Adam did act on his own with no confederates, or other conspirators, then why the delay in issuing a report?

The one undeniable transformative change that Obama has brought this country with the completion of his first term is the politicization of the Just-Us department. What should be of concern to every American is this rush to pass legislation on the emotion of the Sandy Hook killings.

Once again, the founders of this nation understood that the nation should not swing back and forth on the emotion of the moment but rather that whatever legislation is produced is the result of a deliberate and temperate process.

Is there no report in an effort to bolster this rush to legislation? That should be the concern of every American.

106 posted on 02/06/2013 3:16:32 PM PST by Delta Dawn (at)
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To: RummyChick
Tell me EXACTLY who went into the building to try to save the lives of those that were shot?

Your own link answers the question.

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-12-30/lifestyle/36070993_1_first-responders-newtown-school-newtown-officers

The first on the scene were nine Newtown officers, divided into three teams of three, including the police chief. They were the first, after the shooter, to force their way into the school, via the front lobby and the rear door.


107 posted on 02/06/2013 3:16:48 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: RummyChick
- you make an idiotic post about Bigfoot.

Compared to intelligent posts about crop circles. ROTFLMAO

108 posted on 02/06/2013 3:18:07 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: NoGrayZone
And why the heck is it taking so long?

The computer forensics take a long time. Remember he smashed up his hard drive.

IF there was a conspiracy or some internet idjit that encouraged this kid in his destructive delusions they need to be held to account.

Let's give LEO the time and space to make sure.

109 posted on 02/06/2013 3:24:50 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: Uncle Chip
Probably before your time, but there was a right ol' chap named Michael Rivero who used to post here. The difference between him and our current crop of tinfoilers was that he would actually develop his conspiracy theories, and support them.

Now, all we get is people throwing poo at the wall to see if it sticks.

110 posted on 02/06/2013 3:28:48 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Delta Dawn
What should be of concern to every American is this rush to pass legislation on the emotion of the Sandy Hook killings.
I agree with you. I don't know what to believe or not to believe about Sandy Hook, but I do know that our leader doesn't always tell the truth. And he has no remorse whatsoever concerning the bloodshed of holy innocents either, that's for sure.
111 posted on 02/06/2013 3:32:05 PM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Delta Dawn
If there are other suspects that were involved, would they not be considered dangerous and a potential hazard to the public at large?

Not necessarily. And as for picking them up right away, why? To tip them off that you are building a case against them?

112 posted on 02/06/2013 3:35:11 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Delta Dawn
If there are other suspects that were involved, would they not be considered dangerous and a potential hazard to the public at large?

Not necessarily. And as for picking them up right away, why? To tip them off that you are building a case against them?

113 posted on 02/06/2013 3:35:49 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Delta Dawn
If there are other suspects that were involved, would they not be considered dangerous and a potential hazard to the public at large?

Not necessarily. And as for picking them up right away, why? To tip them off that you are building a case against them?

114 posted on 02/06/2013 3:35:49 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Delta Dawn
If there are other suspects that were involved, would they not be considered dangerous and a potential hazard to the public at large?

Not necessarily. And as for picking them up right away, why? To tip them off that you are building a case against them?

115 posted on 02/06/2013 3:35:50 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Delta Dawn
If there are other suspects that were involved, would they not be considered dangerous and a potential hazard to the public at large?

Not necessarily. And as for picking them up right away, why? To tip them off that you are building a case against them?

116 posted on 02/06/2013 3:35:49 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Delta Dawn
If there are other suspects that were involved, would they not be considered dangerous and a potential hazard to the public at large?

Not necessarily. And as for picking them up right away, why? To tip them off that you are building a case against them?

117 posted on 02/06/2013 3:35:53 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Delta Dawn
If there are other suspects that were involved, would they not be considered dangerous and a potential hazard to the public at large?

Not necessarily. And as for picking them up right away, why? To tip them off that you are building a case against them?

118 posted on 02/06/2013 3:35:53 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Fred Nerks

Ping to a thread that you might find interesting.


119 posted on 02/06/2013 3:41:21 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: 1rudeboy

Wow! 7 duplicate posts, I have never been able to do that many!

‘And as for picking them up right away, why? ‘

If they were onboard with shooting up an elementary school, I would consider them a threat to the general public at large.

If they are people involved in the gun business, then this investigation has little to do with the actual crime in Sandy Hook.


120 posted on 02/06/2013 3:42:10 PM PST by Delta Dawn (at)
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To: 1rudeboy

Yeh — I heard of him. The current crop are mere pikers who spend too much time in the Baccardi making cornball theories to actually think their way out of their own maze.


121 posted on 02/06/2013 3:45:46 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Delta Dawn

Not picking a fight with you . . . but you would suggest that it would be better to pick them up right away, even if it jeopardizes the case against them?


122 posted on 02/06/2013 3:48:59 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

The statement is pretty clear cut to me. They are investigating other potential shooters or a group, who are dangerous and have far-reaching power, to the point of being threatening to witnesses.


123 posted on 02/06/2013 3:57:07 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Valpal1

Why would Lanza smash his hard drive? He was on a murder/suicide mission, whatever was found on his hard drive would be totally irrelevant. However, if others were involved in the shooting, they would want to destroy evidence.


124 posted on 02/06/2013 4:01:45 PM PST by Toespi
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If you look at the events that occurred at Sandy Hook and have no questions for the media or it seems the government (which is tasked to protect citizens and not kill them) about what happened? How did it happen? Who was responsible? How did they do it? How many people were involved? Why have the police blocked any inquiry into any of these questions? Why did so many witnesses appear to be plants with other names and personalities and lives? Why are some registered crises actors? Why did Gene Rosen’s story make no sense. How could a man sit in his house with children and give them stuffed animals and not take to the Firehouse right next to his house? Why did all the children that died move to Sandy Hook recently and live along the gas line owned by the Iroquois gas Co? Why were all the children killed in those two rooms? Where are the video tapes? Where are the pictures of the crimes scene. Wy were no parents allowed to view their dead children? Why were so many other people arrested but it was a lone nutter with prepper mother? How did a 120 lb weakling plan and carry out this operation? How did someone with little to no experience manage to carry in all those guns and ammunition and execute a perfect massacre. Why did they say he only handguns but the kids were killed an with AR15? Why was his death recorded a day before his death? Why are there no wounded - no living witness? Why is Adam Lanza a complete mystery and like our president has no records for the last three years? Who were his physicians? What medications was he on? Where are his friends. Why do all the victims on TV appear to be fake? Why would anyone today believe anyone on TV? Why would anyone believe anything the government says? Why did Carver the ME who appear to be the real lone nut push for legislation that they could use to hide all info about pedophile homicides? Why did they install all that security on school that was about to be closed? Why is the Rose Lima church a center of pedophilia? Why is the Church of Satan located in Newtown? Why does much of the video shown appear to tampered with? Why do the family photos of Robbie Parker appear to be photoshopped? Why is Robbie Parker laughing and asking if he should read from his card before he gets into character of a grieving parent??? Why does Sandy Hook appear to be a setup for a liberal like Feinstein to take away our guns? Why does the Conn Police appear so corrupt? Why is nobody in Newton talking? What are they afraid of? What are you afraid of?
Are you afraid to find out your government is a corrupt lying entity with a murderous agenda that does not fit in the US Constitution? That it does not represent the people and that elements in it will kill Americans to further their political domestic and foreign agendas of war and domination? That they want to disarm American people so they can get away with whatever they want?

These are just some of the questions that the inquiring minds of patriots should be asking about Sandy Hook. Why are people labeled a nut, a tin foil hat, a conspiracy theorist if you dare to use your own intellect to find an answers to these questions?

If your not asking any question about these and many other discrepancies in the official story of Sandy Hook and made for TV media event then I would suggest you tune off the TV and radio and start thinking for yourself again. The media world we live in is inundated with propaganda. Left wing, right wing, government, neoconservative, liberal. Its all propaganda. American have propaganda stuffed into their heads from the moment they are born.

Free your mind and your ass will follow.......


125 posted on 02/06/2013 4:16:45 PM PST by allrighty ("We know what we are, but we know not what we may become" - William Shakespeare)
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To: 1rudeboy
‘but you would suggest that it would be better to pick them up right away, even if it jeopardizes the case against them?’

If they were somehow involved in the planning and execution of the massacre at Sandy Hook, yes, they should be picked up now. I am guessing that the case against them would be rather ironclad if true. I would hate to think that they might have the opportunity to pull off another massacre.

If the people they say are tagentially involved in the event, then yes, it might be prudent to delay any arrests.

If the delay in the report is political however, how would we know? We just get manuvered into the corner for the sake of the children.

126 posted on 02/06/2013 4:18:37 PM PST by Delta Dawn (at)
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To: Delta Dawn
I am guessing that the case against them would be rather ironclad if true.

There's yer mistake.

127 posted on 02/06/2013 4:20:26 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: TigersEye

POLICE OFFICERS

Who ARE NOT EQUIPPED to save the lives of the dying.


128 posted on 02/06/2013 4:36:00 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Toespi

Think about the purple van with person in a nun outfit.

The claim going around is that it was apprehended and then let go and traced to Greenwich Village.

A few weeks later this is found

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/nyregion/aaron-greene-was-fascinated-by-explosives-as-a-child-police-say.html?_r=0

Story may be unrelated.

Story about the van being tracked to Greenwich may be wrong.

But something isn’t right about this whole thing.

The very interesting part of this is that you get people that try to muck this up..both here and on the internet.

I think there is a lot of disinformation campaigns going on.


129 posted on 02/06/2013 4:41:40 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Toespi
Why would Lanza smash his hard drive?

Because he wanted to hide or destroy something on it. Or IF he had a conspirator or encourager, perhaps they directed him to do so.

Maybe he was hiding his kiddie porn collection, who knows.

The point is, they won't know until they know and it would be procedurally stupid to let any information out at all until they are sure there was no one behind Lanza, pushing him over his own psychotic cliff.

130 posted on 02/06/2013 4:44:03 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: RummyChick

They were all dead.


131 posted on 02/06/2013 4:45:48 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

Your post is idiotic.

I had no idea what that was.

People are all the time doing crop circles. It doesn’t mean it comes from aliens.

I am neutral on aliens. I have no clue as to if they exist or not.

I do know if they did..the government would cover it up.

Oh and btw, scientists do look at other causes other than aliens as it relates to crop circles


132 posted on 02/06/2013 4:48:32 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

And you’re a total fruit loop.


133 posted on 02/06/2013 4:49:59 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

And I quote

” This is one of the most peculiar aspects of the event. I have been to many many shootings over the years. I work in one of the most violent communities on the West Coast. The police here ALWAYS have us (EMS) verify whether someone is dead. As you said many people who appear dead can still be saved... ESPECIALLY KIDS. We almost never leave the scene until we have put the bodies in body bags and loaded them up. Other than occasionally helping us with CPR, in 24 years I have never seen a police officer touch a dead body.
71 posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 5:18:38 PM by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)


134 posted on 02/06/2013 4:50:54 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: TigersEye

Not to mention the fact that area has quite a few witch covens. We know know the explanation for that peculiar triangle. It’s a corn maze.

HOWEVER, it is not unreasonable to question what that was given the things that have gone on in that area..INCLUDING THE FACT THAT THERE ARE KNOWN WITCH COVENS THERE AS WELL AS SATANISTS.


135 posted on 02/06/2013 4:53:16 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Oh and one of the self proclaimed witches in the area is good friends with the parents of Jesse Lewis.

So don’t come on here claiming there is no witchcraft in the area.


136 posted on 02/06/2013 4:57:23 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

What can happen in a witch coven??

Well,in the UK

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/nov/28/witches-sex-abuse-allegations-children-court


137 posted on 02/06/2013 5:02:14 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
You are looking for kind of a triangle. Are those crop circles???

Thanks for the laugh.

Although you could also have gone for "do you see where the boats all disappeared?"

For extra credit, find the houses that, when you connect them, form a pentagram. If you are lucky, the center will be at the Crazy Guy's house.

138 posted on 02/06/2013 5:36:21 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: deltaromeo11

That’s just what they WANT you to believe. In fact, it is probably the secret entrance to the druid temple.


139 posted on 02/06/2013 5:39:28 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: RummyChick; 1rudeboy
Why don’t you take your sarcasm elsewhere.

Please don't. It's what this story needs. Lots of sarcasm. And mocking.

140 posted on 02/06/2013 5:41:20 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TigersEye

But if they had gotten the dead bodies, and taken them to the druid temple in the corn maze, they could have performed satanic rituals and raised them from the dead.


141 posted on 02/06/2013 5:43:05 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: The Cajun

No, I think he meant “potential suspects”. It would be absurd to ASSUME that Adam acted alone. If he DID act alone, you’ll figure that out when, after you do all the investigation, you can’t find anybody else who worked with him.

If you start by assuming he was a lone gunman, you’ll ignore anything that points elsewhere, and probably never find anything different.

How do we know that Adam didn’t tell his plan to someone else? Or if there was something that happened in the school that triggered his attack, something that itself might have been criminal? Did the mother have all her guns legally, or were some of them purchased illegally? If illegal, was it because some gun store didn’t follow the law, or did the mother lie on the forms?

I’m not saying that any of those things are true. I’m saying that, in an investigation, there are a lot of things to look at, and you want to keep witness statements confidential both to protect witnesses (if there IS another conspirator), and to keep other witnesses from having tainted stories because of what they read from others.

If we find out Adam was alone, that won’t surprise me. It wouldn’t particularly surprise me if there was somebody else involved, although I would be surprised if it was another active shooter. But maybe a facilitator.

One thing that we know little about is the mother being shot. We know she was shot, but how do we KNOW that Adam did it? I don’t think they have said that the bullets were matched. Or what if someone wanted her dead, and set off Adam so he’d do it? See, there are many possibilities to be eliminated, and I’m glad to see that the investigators aren’t wedded to a predetermined outcome.

It’s funny though watching the conspiracy nuts who act like these signs of good investigations are actually signs of a coverup. Because no good coverup is going to point out the potential “other suspects”.


142 posted on 02/06/2013 5:50:01 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
It was a brilliant plan until their leader took her eye off the ball.


143 posted on 02/06/2013 6:02:12 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I’m just relaxing after a hard day and that just made me LOL.


144 posted on 02/06/2013 6:53:24 PM PST by windcliff
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To: TigersEye

If the police officers were the only ones in the building then they were reckless and may have caused additonal deaths.

It is not possible for non-EMS trained personnel to tell the dead from wounded. Police officers can not do that.

Example:

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/11/05/1510121/lexington-police-acknowledge-failure.html

If the police decided all the wounded were dead - regardless of the wounds - then there should a line of lawyers ready to sue the Newtown Police.


145 posted on 02/06/2013 7:12:44 PM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: 1rudeboy
What bothers me the most is the assumption that many FReepers make that any information must be released as soon as possible (with the corollary that, if it is not, it is evidence of a conspiracy).

It's a criminal investigation, for cripe's sake.

Don'cha know??? CSI solves crimes in 47 minutes now; why should the real folks take longer???   </sarc>

146 posted on 02/06/2013 7:59:07 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Candor7

Very interesting and very strange. I wonder what’s going on and will follow more closely than I was.


147 posted on 02/06/2013 8:02:25 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: bluecat6
It is not possible for non-EMS trained personnel to tell the dead from wounded. Police officers can not do that.

So then the police officers at Sandy Hook Elementary should not have carried those two wounded first graders out to their cruiser and driven them to the hospital to try to save their lives???

148 posted on 02/06/2013 8:28:04 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: bluecat6

That is a lot of ‘ifs.’ Got any facts of the case?


150 posted on 02/06/2013 8:46:11 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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