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Obama: Salazar's family 'did not cross the border, the border crossed them'
Washington Examiner ^ | 2/6/13 | Charlie Spiering

Posted on 02/06/2013 3:46:35 PM PST by Nachum

Speaking about outgoing Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar, President Obama reminded reporters that the family of the former U.S. Senator from Colorado was of Spanish descendent – dating back to the 16th century. “His ancestors were living here before the Mayflower set sail,” Obama said. “As he explains it — and relevant, as we are working to get immigration reform passed — his family did not cross the border, the border crossed them. And that’s why, when I needed somebody to lead Interior, I didn’t have to look very far.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: border; family; obama; salazars
Remember the Alamo, President O'liar.
1 posted on 02/06/2013 3:46:45 PM PST by Nachum
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2 posted on 02/06/2013 3:50:31 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Ah....Spanish conquerors....the guys from Spain that invaded and killed off the Mayans and Aztecs and indigenous peoples with the first “white mans disease”....


3 posted on 02/06/2013 3:51:19 PM PST by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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4 posted on 02/06/2013 3:51:29 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
Salizar crossed the line and the Courts said so.
5 posted on 02/06/2013 3:58:15 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Nachum

Short answer. We don’t need anymore minorities (actually they may be the majority now) voting for traitor Obama nor do we want to have to work longer hours so you, your families, and anchor baby making machines can bleed our social services dry, bankrupt our nation, not pay into the system from which you so freely take, take away our jobs, get minority preference, and overpopulate our nation.


6 posted on 02/06/2013 3:58:50 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Nachum

If Mr. Salazar’s family was living in the Southwest in 1846, there was no reason for them to pack up to move back to Mexico. They would have been far better off after being liberated by the US. If they were in Texas, that liberation came sooner.


7 posted on 02/06/2013 3:59:01 PM PST by pallis
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To: Nachum

If his family lived here in the 1500’s which I sort of doubt tho it is technically possible, they probably lived in New Mexico instead of Colorado.

The border didn’t so much change as it just had different owners.


8 posted on 02/06/2013 4:02:29 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Nachum
I have always wondered how the invading hispanic peoples have somehow positioned themselves on the "victim" side of the American grievance divide.
9 posted on 02/06/2013 4:02:46 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Nachum

Ken Salazar & Obozo need to remember San Jacinto.

18 minutes on April 21, 1836 that changed FOREVER 1/3 of this nation.


10 posted on 02/06/2013 4:12:32 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Nachum

AND Ken Salazar & Obozo need to remember that there were BOTH Anglos and Tejanos at the Alamo and at San Jacinto.


11 posted on 02/06/2013 4:16:04 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: pallis

It sounds like Salazar’s family were not Mexicans (lucky for them) in the first place. They were Spanish. Contrary to the B.S. that the Mechistas are indoctrinating in the public schools, the American southwest was never the land of the Aztecs.

There were very, very few Mexicans in California before World War II. In California the harbors, railroads, irrigation systems, aqueducts, etc. were built by Americans and Chinese before the Mexicans arrived. There were Kumeyay indians in California when the Spanish arrived (they are still here and are rich), but they were not Aztec, Mayan, or Mexican.


12 posted on 02/06/2013 4:20:21 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: mountainlion

I think it sounds better like this:

Obama crossed the line and Courts said “Its ok”


13 posted on 02/06/2013 4:23:54 PM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: Nachum

Shut up Barry. What would you know about American history?


14 posted on 02/06/2013 4:25:56 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: yarddog

I saw on some website that he is a fifth-generation Coloradan, which unless his forebears had superhuman lifespans does not bring us back to the Age of Exploration.


15 posted on 02/06/2013 4:26:09 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Dallas59
Hanta virus did the killing ~ not anything the Spanish did. Has a 95% mortality rate ~ bad stuff.

Regarding Salazar, that's an old noble name. SAL isn't about salt, it's about SA LA or The Flag ~ for the line of march of the heavy mounted knights who fought against the Moors.

See, knowledge of a bit of Cornish is good for a man.

Now, about the Salazar family being north of today's border, there are even old Spanish families who stayed behind in what is now Virginia as the Spanish pulled out in the late 1500 to early 1600 period. One gentleman named Cruz became Crews. Today they don't know if they start with a Spaniard or an Englishman (bwahahahahaha).

American history is full of Spaniards keeping their land as the English wave swept over them, and then, taking up the American interest against the English.

Nothing wrong with having a Breton or Cornish knight in your ancestry down in El Andaluz killing Moslem invaders (took 700 years though, long fight eh).

16 posted on 02/06/2013 4:27:01 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Dallas59
Ah....Spanish conquerors....the guys from Spain that invaded and killed off the Mayans and Aztecs and indigenous peoples with the first “white mans disease”....

Ken Salazar is not "Hispanic" he is a Spaniard Conquistador.

I have known people from Germany and Poland who are darker skinned than ol' Ken Salsa-Czar.

The Ruling Class in Mexico are heavily populated by "White Spaniard Conquistador" types.

The Mestizos are very heavily discriminated against IN Mexico. And the same whitey Spaniards whine when we want to deport ANY Mexican despite their background as racist? Gimme a damn break.

A lot of people immigrating across Mexico's southern border are very Mestizo and the Mexican government is very brutal with those illegals, Mexico can shut the hell up about us deporting illegals, we only deport them, we don't rob and kill them like the Mexican government does. Remind you, A Mexican government ran by "White Racist Spaniards".

17 posted on 02/06/2013 4:30:01 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Tublecane

My family has been in Walton County, Florida since at least the 1700’s. They probably don’t go back any further than that as they originally came to Florida from Virginia and North Carolina.

They were not Scotch Irish but mostly Highland Scots from the Western Islands. One thing I like is I can trace our family back to Charles Martel, (The Hammer), through William Byrd of Virginia. We fought Muslims way back.


18 posted on 02/06/2013 4:41:46 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Patriot Babe
Obama crossed the line and Courts said “Its ok”

Obama lost four including his NLRB appointments last year.

19 posted on 02/06/2013 4:55:55 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: yarddog

My family came from Argyle, Scotland, in the 1700’s too. They spent awhile in SC before coming to what is now, Santa Rosa County, Fla., in 1819, We can trace our clan way back too.


20 posted on 02/06/2013 5:01:15 PM PST by jch10 (Hey GOP! Only Conservatives get my vote.)
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To: jch10

That is interesting. My Mother’s family came from the County of Argyle too. Specifically from the Island of Colonsay.


21 posted on 02/06/2013 5:04:12 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Nachum

Stuff them, they were killing and murdering Indians before we did, then we killed them in a war and won. Stay south scumbags, you lost.


22 posted on 02/06/2013 5:19:36 PM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: Karliner

Of course fifty years after it was over my ancestors, running for THEIR LIVES in Pogroms across Europe, somehow made it to the shores of America with nothing and they allegedly kissed the ground they walked on from that day to their death. I do the same, thankful, so stuff them,( see above post).


23 posted on 02/06/2013 5:22:19 PM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: GraceG

Spot on, well said, I’ve been saying this for years, the Mexican government and its’ people are some of the most racist on the planet, the darker your skin, the further north of Mexico they push you, watch Mexican television you’d think you were in Europe! America is a sieve for the corruption of Mexico, the people need to stay and change their country for the better, not run away!


24 posted on 02/06/2013 5:48:05 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: Dallas59

Dunno ‘bout the Mayans, but killing off the human-sacrificing, cannibalistic empire of the Aztecs was a GOOD thing.

Can you imagine things if there were still “fundamentalist Aztecs” loose? We’d have liberal insisting that they were protected by the First Amendment and demanding that we respect their beliefs and culture.


25 posted on 02/06/2013 5:54:26 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: pallis

Texas, on its own, after independence, did much better in protecting settlers and land developers from Comanche raiders than did the Mexicans or Spain.


26 posted on 02/06/2013 6:17:36 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: yarddog
1598 is the big year. Filipe I and Elizabeth I passed on to the great unknown and younger folk who'd played croquet together as chillun' took over.

They immediately began putting in place a plan to create peace and help resolve the Protestant problem.

Filipe II/III had decided to get North America underway so he came up with a plan to divide much of it up among people who could invest in the project.

You can read all about the plan in the Treaty of London 1604 ~ but the players were working it in 1598.

Scandinavian surveyors hired by Spain arrived shortly before that date to show the division between Virginia and Carolana, as well as that between Acadia and Virginia in the North. They may also have surveyed a baseline just West of the Mississippi from a point on the Texas coast all the way to Kensington MN, and placed another baseline through OK going East and West.

The Spanish presence in the Chesapeake (there to deal with pirates) shut down and some of their officers traveled to Mexico City then went North to the furthest point where there was regular water ~ with desert beyond. That was the LaLuz and Santa Fe area ~ the first Spanish permanent settlement was placed in that area, and in later times the Santa Fe trail was marked all the way to the Mississippi.

Such is the very foundation of our nation ~ men with sharp knives shooting craps in a dark alley ~ high risk type guys who would venture out in the Great American Desert and carve out workable nations for others to develop.

Bumping into America and telling others about it was one thing; carving it up for settlement was quite another. Then the deluge of the nations trampling under God's temple on Earth for 415 years!

27 posted on 02/06/2013 6:32:36 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: forgotten man
Actually the Spanish mission system on the West Coast was SUPPLIED from the Spanish colonial base of operations in the Philippines. If you get a chance stop by the mission in Vista/Oceanside ~ it was one of the big ones. They've been going through the debris in the old trash dumps on the site and recovering used clothing and bric a brac used by the religious.

They wore silk gowns from China!

The Mexicans, who came later, were not mestizos ~ they were pretty much grandees ~ mostly Spanish in origin. Well within the American era there were mestizos who came to the mission when it was converted to a school. They produced priests for small mexican communities throughout California.

28 posted on 02/06/2013 6:41:21 PM PST by muawiyah
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