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Rove's 'No More Akins' Group Outrages Conservatives (Free Republic Mentioned)
The Atlantic Wire ^ | 2/4/13 | ELSPETH REEVE

Posted on 02/06/2013 5:13:47 PM PST by jimbo123

Karl Rove's American Crossroads has started a new group to make sure the 2014 Senate races produce zero Todd Akins. But it turns out some conservatives like Rove less than Akin.

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The Senate Conservatives Fund's Matt Hoskins told Politico the Crossroads group was the "Conservative Defeat Project." Free Republic posters mocked "Tokyo Rove." On Breitbart.com, Ben Shapiro called Rove and his cohorts, "The Bush insider team that helped lead to the rise of Barack Obama." RedState editor Erick Erickson said the Conservative Victory Project was sure to pick losers. "I dare say any candidate who gets this group’s support should be targeted for destruction by the conservative movement." Erickson wrote. "They’ve made it really easy not to figure out who the terrible candidates will be in 2014." In another post at RedState, Daniel Horowitz warned of an enemy within under the headline "The Snakes in the GOP Grass":

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlanticwire.com ...


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KEYWORDS: akin; americancrossroads; frinthenews; karlrove; mourdock; rove; teaparty; theatlantic; toddakins; tokyorove
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It's time to vet Tokyo Rove's donors and let them know that they and their businesses and employers will be boycotted if they fund the actions of Rove's anti-conservative cabal.
1 posted on 02/06/2013 5:14:01 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123; All

List of Tokyo Rove’s donors to be contacted:

http://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/contrib_all.php?cmte=C00487363&type=A&cycle=2012


2 posted on 02/06/2013 5:15:55 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Guys like Akin wouldn’t be a problem without guys like Rove running to the sound of fire to start shooting at them.

The media will continue to do it because they know moderates will react like Pavlov’s dogs.


3 posted on 02/06/2013 5:18:10 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: jimbo123

Akin was Michelle Bachmann’s baby, not the tea party, and Rove should have backed Palin’s female candidate, and we would have won the seat.


4 posted on 02/06/2013 5:19:50 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: jimbo123
Let’s compare Sarah Palin’s/SarahPAC endorsements to Rove’s endorsements during the past two election cycles.

Rove's American Crossroads outspent her PAC by hundreds of millions, yet her candidates actually won elections and they’re not “moderates,” unless you want to call Governor’s Martinez of NM and Haley of SC “moderates” along with US Senator’s like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. Her list of wins is much, much longer. I’m just citing four.

TEA Party, grassroots, strong Conservatives WIN almost every time, if not every time.

Those candidates have the right values and message because they hold a strong belief in our Constitution and God.


5 posted on 02/06/2013 5:35:53 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: jimbo123

Poor Karl - as much as he hates on Akin, the MSM still won’t invite him to hang out with the cool kids in their Che t -hirts and listen to Springsteen albums.


6 posted on 02/06/2013 5:40:55 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: onyx

Tokyo Rove recklessly squandered almost $200 million of his PAC donors hard-earned dollars on a campaign that only benefited the media owners who pocketed the advertising money. His PAC donors should be outraged at his gross incompetence.


7 posted on 02/06/2013 5:42:12 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Well, I won’t go as far as Rove, but I do think we conservatives need to do a better job vetting our candidates. Akin, Angle, Christine O’Donnell - these were all first-class political train wrecks. I absolutely believe conservatives can win general elections, but we need to look long and hard at what they’re about and whether or not they are ready for the spotlight.


8 posted on 02/06/2013 5:44:39 PM PST by DemforBush (You might very well think that. I could not *possibly* comment.)
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To: onyx

Now Onyx, Really...

Anything positive having to do with Palin must be mocked, derided and such. You don’t want the mental giants of Free Republic’s PDS wing to become upset do you? ;)

I am amazed that any of that breed still wanders the wilds of Asgard...and lately it seems they are multiplying like the (democ)Rats they are.


9 posted on 02/06/2013 5:45:10 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: ansel12

I don’t remember Bachmann pushing Akin. She may have, but I remember Huckabee vocally backing Akin in the primary. You are correct that Palin had backed a great candidate with Steeleman, and people like rove should have rallied behind her.


10 posted on 02/06/2013 5:45:13 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: cripplecreek
Guys like Akin wouldn’t be a problem without guys like Rove running to the sound of fire to start shooting at them.

Exactly. And there are plenty of people who still don't get that. All anybody with half a brain has to do to fully understand this is look at what the media did to Palin during the 2008 election and ever since, and how morons like Rove jumped on that bandwagon with a fervor that should be reserved for enemies, not allies. But then again, a lot of Republicans AND Freepers are not particularly principled.
11 posted on 02/06/2013 5:49:54 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: jimbo123

Akin was a product of his own overinflated ego and was supported by people who have no clue about how to gain and exercise political power. This was not a battle of political ideology, but one of the realities of electoral politics. Akin was a decent guy who was dumb as a box of rocks when it came to political savvy and his supporters, many of whom were Freepers, were even worse. He will forever be the poster child for why the Republicans do not control the Senate.


12 posted on 02/06/2013 5:50:06 PM PST by centurion316
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To: jimbo123
I'm not a big Rovian, I believe Rove is more of a centrist than a real conservative.

Mister Akin however, is a proud fool. With Akin's nonsensical and embarrassingly-below-ignorance-level command of simple biology, and his blissful insouciance about streaking his painful stupidity over the airways... this "special" human had no business running for anything, and no business staying in a race he could never win. He was (and still is) a sitting duck for attack from lefty "news" peeps, and sadly, their attacks would be legitimate.

The vacuous Mister Akin (and his supporters) chose to gift a precious senate seat to a committed lefty, and Rove at least saw this one happening.

Again, I believe that Rove is more of a centrist than a conservative; however he was right about (ugh) Akin, and is right that we can't afford another just like him. This much I yield to Rove.

13 posted on 02/06/2013 5:54:57 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: jimbo123; Jim Robinson
I saved Trump's tweet about Rove's wasteful spending. I'll have to find it again...LOL. Give me a few minutes. I've gone and forgotten where I stashed it, AGAIN.


14 posted on 02/06/2013 5:55:05 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: centurion316

Typical RINO whining.


15 posted on 02/06/2013 5:57:15 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123



16 posted on 02/06/2013 5:58:45 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: onyx

Crossroads/Rove funneled that money to the MSM by buying ads


17 posted on 02/06/2013 6:00:11 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: onyx

LOVE THAT, thanks for posting.


18 posted on 02/06/2013 6:00:39 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Seaplaner

Tokyo Rove is all about scamming consulting fees from PAC donors and recklessly wasting their hard-earned money on failed advertising and dinosaur-era political strategies.


19 posted on 02/06/2013 6:01:40 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Seaplaner

Rove may be right about Akin, but why do you “yield” to him about that. Almost everybody but Akin was right about Akin. It’s not like it took a brain surgeon to figure that out.


20 posted on 02/06/2013 6:02:33 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: jimbo123

Akin makes a one sentence statement that should not have been said—the Repub’s then throw away the race. With a little support, Akin might have won and moved the R party forward in the US Senate.

Every day, some Dem makes a public statement of far greater horror and one that will harm a big swath of Americans. The Dem party doesn’t even blink an eye and so we have the Pelosi’s, Bidens, Feinsteins, not only winning elections but sitting is positions of prominence. Is this screwed up or what?


21 posted on 02/06/2013 6:04:19 PM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
You betcha! I saved it from last year!

22 posted on 02/06/2013 6:04:50 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: GeronL
Crossroads/Rove funneled that money to the MSM by buying ads

If Tokyo Rove wanted to win, he would have put that money into a real GOTV plan. Instead he and Romney gave us ORCA. For Rove, he took the lazy way out by wasting millions on advertising and gifting it to the liberal media.
23 posted on 02/06/2013 6:05:10 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Almost everybody but Akin was right about Akin. It’s not like it took a brain surgeon to figure that out.

We are in total agreement, my FRiend.

Hmmm, what if I replaced "yield" to "agree with"?

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24 posted on 02/06/2013 6:05:29 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: fr_freak

You Akin Kool Aiders are showing yourselves for fools, and gimme a break, 99% of the anti Akin people are also anti Rove. Comparing him to Palin is breathtakinly out of kilter.

Rove is almost always wrong, but Akin was an arrogant stupid fool who beat two good conservatives in the primary on the strength of liberal votes who knew he was too pathetic to beat McCaskill. Akin is a six term congressman, and anyone who falls for his big “outsider” kick is just foolish.


25 posted on 02/06/2013 6:05:29 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Seaplaner

Fair enough, and anyone with Churchill in their tag line is showing tremendous panache.

You might like this, speaking of Rove’s idiocy:
www.gone2012book.com


26 posted on 02/06/2013 6:07:22 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: jimbo123

Ah, the Atlantic Wire just had to plug gay marriage at the end there. Pathetic. Any primary dandidate who takes money from the Conservative Defeat Project should targeted for total annihilation. Rove should be a plague, best avoided.


27 posted on 02/06/2013 6:07:39 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: iacovatx

You are obviously not familiar with the sitaution at all. There are MANY MANY MANY reasons besides that one statement. Pay a tad more attention.


28 posted on 02/06/2013 6:08:48 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: jimbo123

29 posted on 02/06/2013 6:08:58 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Viennacon

Exactly!


30 posted on 02/06/2013 6:09:33 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: onyx

Funny thing is, Trump can be brilliant one minute, but is a Democrat suck up semi liberal the next - but doggone it, he nailed it on this issue about Rove.

I justed edited a section on Trumps spring 2011 assaults on Obama tonight for my book in fact.....


31 posted on 02/06/2013 6:10:58 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: jimbo123

You know what they call Conservatives who lose elections? They call them LOSERS. They call conservatives who win elections SENATOR and CONGRESSMAN. There is a big difference.


32 posted on 02/06/2013 6:11:00 PM PST by centurion316
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Todd Akin:
Lifetime ACU Rating: 97.24
Lifetime CFG Rating: 92

Per wiki, endorsed by (among others):
Jeb Hensarling
Jim Jordan
Steve King

Probably the most gettable pickup in the 2012 senate race & Akin got diarrhea of the mouth.


33 posted on 02/06/2013 6:14:03 PM PST by tnvol01 ("...answering that question w/ specificity uh, you know, is, is, uh above my pay grade.")
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To: iacovatx
Akin makes a one sentence statement that should not have been said...

Everyone makes mistakes, including "misstatements".

What Mister Akin said, however was what he really believed. There is no coming back from saying that women who are victims of "legitimate" rape rarely get pregnant.

This was not a gaffe, it was a window into the alleged thinking and the absolute stupidity and ignorance (they are different, of course) and unelectability that is one Mister Akin.

Some one-sentence statements are so damnably illuminating that you just cannot walk them back.

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34 posted on 02/06/2013 6:14:18 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

So it was a wise move to get rid of a man with a 90+% conservative voting record and replace him with a liberal democrat because Karl and the RINOs thought it was a good idea.

That there is some rock solid logic.

A 90+% conservative voting record. I repeat...a 90+% conservative voting record.

Now when someone explains in detail why replacing this guy with a libDem over an asinine statement is conductive to furthering conservative philosophy and governance, ping me.

Until then, good luck getting anyone with more than two functioning brain cells to buy that bullshit.


35 posted on 02/06/2013 6:16:55 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: jimbo123
Tokyo Rove is all about scamming consulting fees from PAC donors and recklessly wasting their hard-earned money on failed advertising and dinosaur-era political strategies.

We are in agreement, my FRiend.

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36 posted on 02/06/2013 6:18:00 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
You Akin Kool Aiders are showing yourselves for fools, and gimme a break, 99% of the anti Akin people are also anti Rove. Comparing him to Palin is breathtakinly out of kilter.

Rove is almost always wrong, but Akin was an arrogant stupid fool who beat two good conservatives in the primary on the strength of liberal votes who knew he was too pathetic to beat McCaskill.


Well, you failed the "half a brain" test, because you STILL don't get it. IT DOESN'T MATTER if Akin was the absolute coolest, most conservative candidate that ever lived or an uncharismatic goofball. The only thing that matters was that he was a lot more conservative than the bitch that beat him. There was NO POINT in Rove and all the other GOPe fools in trashing Akin after his rape statement - they could have just shut up and let it ride,,or even supported him, and he probably would have won. Instead, they declared all out war in the guy, thus ensuring his loss.

I don't care if Akin sucked as a candidate, Rove was still wrong as hell to trash him. Not only did Rove guarantee the Dem win, but he hurt the GOP in general. Who is going to have respect for a Party that does nothing but trash its own? It made the GOP as a whole look weak and squishy.

You also failed basic reading comprehension. I didn't compare Akin to Palin - I compared Rove's behavior toward Akin to Rove's behavior toward Palin. It is the exact same pattern: the leftwing media trashes a candidate, and Rove goes all in to help them. He is not a friend to conservatives. In fact, I'd say he is a worse enemy to real Americans than the Dems, because we at least know where the Dems stand, but Rove is a NWO liberal trojan horse.
37 posted on 02/06/2013 6:18:41 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: Seaplaner

Akin was also more of a centrist than a conservative. I looked it up. Earmarks as far as they eye could see.


38 posted on 02/06/2013 6:19:18 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Akin was an arrogant stupid fool

Akin had no message discipline. Anyone running at the statewide level needs message discipline. Anything a GOP politician says can be twisted into something that he never meant. There is no room for ad libbing. Akin made the GOP look mentally retarded with his statement about rape victims not becoming pregnant. I hate to say it, but I think Akin and Mourdock ultimately helped Romney and a number of other high profile GOP pols lose their races.

39 posted on 02/06/2013 6:21:56 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: jimbo123
Todd Akin was stupid. Tokyo Rove is evil. I'll take stupid over evil every time.
40 posted on 02/06/2013 6:22:37 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: jimbo123

I believe Karl Rove is being funded by George Soros

Why the push for Liberal candidates when they have gone 0 for 2 in last 2 Presidential elections?

Rove is a Dem Liberal front. He is going to force GOP candidates to spend more money in primaries, so they will have less in the General election, thus aiding the DNC

Conservatives will not vote for Rove-Soros candidates....in primaries or general election...no matter what Sean Hannity or Fox News says


41 posted on 02/06/2013 6:23:19 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: ansel12

Akin was Michelle Bachmann’s baby, not the tea party, and Rove should have backed Palin’s female candidate, and we would have won the seat.


Akin won the primary by double digits over Sarah Steelman...who got 29% of the primary vote. Steelman also had a lot of the GOP insider backing...not the social conservative base that Akin had

If PhonyCon Liberals had not got so worked up over a comment Akin repeatedly apologized for....he would have won. The 3d place in the primary would have not...


42 posted on 02/06/2013 6:28:59 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: fr_freak
I don't care if Akin sucked as a candidate, Rove was still wrong as hell to trash him. Not only did Rove guarantee the Dem win, but he hurt the GOP in general. Who is going to have respect for a Party that does nothing but trash its own? It made the GOP as a whole look weak and squishy.

The reason Rove stepped all over Akin was because of the risk of the party getting tarred with Akin's image (of mental retardation). As it turns out, it looks like the party did end up getting tarred with the Akin brush. The Freeper vote is only a few percent of the electorate and an even smaller percentage of the blue state vote. Statements like Akin's lose a lot of middle-of-the-road voters who are vital to GOP victories.

43 posted on 02/06/2013 6:29:30 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: iacovatx
Every day, some Dem makes a public statement of far greater horror and one that will harm a big swath of Americans. The Dem party doesn’t even blink an eye <<<

You think?.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs23CjIWMgA

44 posted on 02/06/2013 6:33:40 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: fr_freak

You are presenting a straw argument - you are missing more than half of a lot of things, including this story. I didn’t vote McCaskill and if I had lived in Missouri, I would have voted for Akin - but right after he won a GOP primary with Dem votes, MANY CONSERVATIVES LIKE LEVIN AND RUSH AND HANNIT YWERE TELLING HIM TO DROP THE HELL OUT BECAUSE HE IS AN INCOMPETENT IDIOT AND GREEDY AND PAID HIS FAMILY MEMBERS WITH DONORS MONEY AND LIED HIS ASS OFF ABOUT WHAT AN OUTISDER HE WAS — AND DAMNED IF HE DIDN’T FOOOOOOOOOL A LOT OF FOOLS.

Rove is wrong, McCaskill sucks, I would have voted Akin, but he’s an arrogatn retarded ass.


45 posted on 02/06/2013 6:33:43 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: JoeFromSidney

Straw argument, just like childish liberals make.....the choice was not Rove or Akin....it was Bruner or maybe Steelman, or any number of other choices.

BTW, I agree with you about Rove, but I am astounded how many people have couched this as Rove V Akin. There were MANY MANY MANY good conservatives against Akin. Some certain conservatives bring the charge of stupid on themselves by supporing every stupid person who happens to be right on a few social issues...as if that’s so damned rare.


46 posted on 02/06/2013 6:36:20 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Viennacon
Akin was also more of a centrist than a conservative. I looked it up. Earmarks as far as they eye could see.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Akin was a sham, greedy, stupid, embarrassing, and a six term friggin incumbent trying to run as some outsider.

47 posted on 02/06/2013 6:38:02 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“Akin was a sham, greedy, stupid, embarrassing, ...”

Lifetime ACU Rating: 97.24
Lifetime CFG Rating: 92

Sing along with me...

One of these things is not like the other,
One of these things just doesn’t belong!


48 posted on 02/06/2013 6:41:08 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

You must have flunked logic. You did here.

Someone can be stupid, arrogant, greedy, and vote for conservative legislation at the same time.

Someone can also be anti Rove and anti Akin at the same time.

Someone can despise Akin, and yet hope that somehow he beats McCaskill at the same time.

You just got your ass handed to you. Sing along.....


49 posted on 02/06/2013 6:47:50 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Zhang Fei

Maybe not tarred. The Democrats were already generating their war on women attack. Akin just gave them a convenient example. Republicans AND Rove should have seen the attack and prepared every candidate.


50 posted on 02/06/2013 6:49:31 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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