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1 posted on 02/07/2013 6:36:31 AM PST by Kaslin
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Moreover, the largest concentrations of Latino voters are in Southwestern blue states like California, New Mexico and Nevada, where Republicans usually lose anyway, and for a variety of reasons other than immigration. Ironically, the best long-term strategy for Republicans would be to close the border and allow the forces of upward mobility, assimilation and the natural social conservatism of Latinos to work.

Why oh why can't Republican 'operatives' get this through their heads!

Anyone who does not let strangers into their homes uninvited, has to support not letting people into our country without permission.

2 posted on 02/07/2013 7:16:08 AM PST by maica (Welcome to post-rational America.)
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the natural social conservatism of Latinos to work.

Looks like even VDH is still falling for the "natural social conservatism of Latinos" nonsense. It's difficult to see how anyone can believe that when 53% of Latino children are now born out-of-wedlock. And we can be sure a large portion of that 53% will be on government welfare programs. I don't think that suggests a socially conservative group.

A generally good article, but as long as so many still choose to delude themselves about such fundamental questions, we remain a long way from taking an honest look at the illegal immigration problem.'

3 posted on 02/07/2013 7:43:44 AM PST by Will88
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The problem isn’t “immigration” illegal or otherwise. It is outright INVASION! Those that couch this problem with that word or “undocumented” or “dream workers” or “whateverthehellwordtheythinkwillmakeitseemless” have only three of reasons for it.

1) They are lazy, law-breaking business owners that want cheap illegal labor to increase their profits, or

2) They are Democrats and want to cement their voting advantage, or

3) They are snake-belly RINOs that think hispanics will vote for them if they are compassionate with the “dreamers”. It didn’t work in 1986 and it won’t ever work.


4 posted on 02/07/2013 10:07:51 AM PST by Gaffer
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Massive illegal immigration is not ethnically blind or based on education. For decades it has favored more proximate Latin American arrivals who can easily cross the U.S.-Mexican border over those from distant Asia, Africa, or Europe who simply cannot.

George Will had an excellent phrase for that. All non-Latin immigrants were "psychologically guillotined" when they came to America. They had to sink or swim.

i.e. They weren't constantly reinforced by new arrivals of the same nationality and had to assimilate. On the other hand, anybody south of the border is right at home in the barrios they have created by the constant refreshing of new arrivals and many see no need to assimilate.

Case in point. I was a volunteer reading tutor at a local Middle School in Nevada. I expected the class to be mostly of Hispanics due to the language difference. I was right, but for a different reason. The teachers told me the kids were having problems with English because their fathers wouldn't let them speak or read English at home. The kids were told "Spanish is your heritage".

A sidebar to this is all the dual languages in stores. I have no problem with that in places near the border where there is a lot of cross trade, but it bugs the hell out of me to see it in Utah. After retirement I worked as a night stocker for a few years in Wal-Mart and always rearranged the dual language product so that the English side faced the buyer. A supervisor asked me why I was "wasting my time". I told him that this was America and that we spoke English. Then I told him of a Hispanic who asked me if Wal-Mart had those dual language signs in the aisles because they thought Mexicans were too stupid to learn English. The supe asked me what I replied and I said that I told the guy that Wal-Mart didn't think that, they were just like most American corporations who would sell their daughters to improve the bottom line. The supe didn't know what to say.

5 posted on 02/07/2013 10:32:33 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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I’m going to keep it simple because I’m a little simple: The basement is flooded. Instead of plugging the holes and bailing, the landlord is proposing that we declare it `dry’.


6 posted on 02/07/2013 11:00:28 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Kaslin; sickoflibs
...corporate employers still support the idea of imported, cheap, non-union labor -- in a strange alliance with liberal activists who want the larger blocs of Latino voters

When 'cheap non-union (illegals)' become citizens they STOP doing the work lazy Americans won't do - and move up the ladder to take jobs Americans do want. And because they have a strong work ethic, companies are happy to hire them.

That means cheap labor supplied to large farms, low budget factories, meat packing houses, construction companies etc - to be maintained - exploiters must keep importing third world people forever. When illegals are made legal they 'move up' as they should. But it means the tap must be left open to bring in new illegals.

The problem - and the blessing - is they bring their culture with them. Yes, they're hard working - but their governments are corrupt, violent and totalitarian. AND POOR. Elites - lots of poor and almost no middle class... Check out 'south of the boarder' cultures and countries and you'll understand WHY THEY WANT TO LEAVE - and WHY WE DON'T WANT THAT CULTURE HERE... Cultures are NOT equal - illegals are willing to risk death to get here. That's a hint that the cultures are NOT equal. Escaping - willing to risk death... that's not what we have here. .

With elite liberals taking charge we might be trying to escape some day. But for now, what the founding fathers gave us - protection for the little guy - and a restraint on the elites - is working. Our elites don't like that... elites never do...

The price the country is paying for 'cheap labor' is higher than we can afford. Maybe we educate third world people about having a bill or rights - but then again their elites would hate it - just like ours do...

8 posted on 02/07/2013 3:15:49 PM PST by GOPJ (What EVIDENCE justified blaming Benghazi on... an obscure video? Freeper TexasVoter)
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