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To: South40; BlackElk

Rubio’s romance with Amnesty and Cantor’s romance with no child left behind can only denote that Conservatism Inc. or GOPe is dying or dead. Their only ideas are from 30 years ago and have failed. Bury them soon and let’s start on something new and relevant.


8 posted on 02/07/2013 6:59:37 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: iopscusa

Conservatism, IMO, has just entered a decade or two in the wilderness. We are going to have to rebuild our own party and take the GOP out at the kneecaps in order to take this country back. And the sooner we all get onboard with that the better.


9 posted on 02/07/2013 7:11:43 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: iopscusa
I note your understandable silence as to your conservative credentials, if any. Making up phony "credentials" invites investigation of your claims. No credentials. No claims.

Remember always that your previous posts suggest that the "something new and relevant" that you pine for would be an America without Hispanics or Catholics and one concocted in the looney bin occupied by Ron (not Rand) Paul.

Since both Catholics and Hispanics have been here since before there was a USA, that part would be new. OTOH, it will never be. There are probably 25 million so-called "illegal" Mexicans here right now and whatever the hysterical grumps and bigots of the anti-Mexican zealotry may REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want, they aren't going anywhere else like Mexico in the absence of a total collapse of the US economy.

We have blithely hidden our heads in the sand for 40 years since Roe vs. Wade, making believe that it was just about "women's rights." Planned Barrenhood, since the days of Margaret Sanger (later abetted by such GOP-E "Republican" Board of Directors members as the late Peggy GOLDWATER and Dorothy Walker BUSH, mother of Bush the Elder and granny of Bush the Younger) just assumed that placing abortion mills in ghetto and barrio neighborhoods would assist in achieving, as Margaret Sanger used to say, "more children from the fit and fewer from the unfit." Goebbels would be SO proud! This was always the hallmark issue of the GOP-E, right up there with protecting Muffy's trust fund uber alles.

Now personally, I despise Eric Cantor (in spite of his Judaism) as a Trojan horse. He arranged for something north of half a million dollars from corrupt Texas contractors to pour into the campaign of carpetbagger Adam Kinzinger (from Chicagoland NE Illinois near Indiana) to defeat a superb 20 year incumbent Don Manzullo in an overwhelmingly Republican district thankfully distant from Chicagoland and up against Iowa in NW Illinois. Manzullo's crime was to publicly issue a call to Weepy John Boehner in December, 2011, for a resolution to tell Obozo: NO MORE DEBT LIMIT INCREASES. That meant that the corrupt interests that are the life support system of Boehner, Cantor McCarthy and other whores like them in the GOP-E "leader"ship might not get that ohhhh soooo important federal grea$e.

Today's news (New York Times 2/7/13) carries the story that the House Ethics Committee and the Federal Elections Commission is investigating the role of Peoria Congressman Aaron Schock in instigating Cantor to influence illegal levels of PAC contributions to Kinzinger.

Like most actual conservatives, I would abolish the federal Department of Education (among MANY others) and carry no brief for NCLB. As to "amnesty," I fail to see what people coming here for a better job, a better home, a better country and a better future for their kids have done wrong to suggest that they need "amnesty." They can stay put, live their lives and contribute to this country as the ancestors of almost all of us have done.

Of course, if you are an American Indian (native American to the pc crowd) you can complain about the results of all this immigration into your land. Somehow, I doubt that you qualify on that score. OTOH, almost ALL Mexicans here ARE descendants of Native Americans such as Aztecs and Arawaks and Apaches and others, even if not pure blooded descendants.

Also, your chosen examples Rubio and Cantor just HAPPEN to be Hispanic and Jewish respectively. Surprise! Surprise! and Surprise!

Ummmm, ideas of thirty years ago were the ideas of Ronaldus Maximus and the American restoration. You got a problem with that??? Do tell! Reagan's ideas were a failure??? Who knew? Naturally, you would find such ideas unacceptable since Reagan was neither an anti-Semite nor an anti-Hispanic bigot. He had a program to accommodate transient Mexican farm workers way back in the 1960s when he was governor and it had been requested by Senator George Murphy. Reagan was also close to the thoroughly decent Jack Kemp. Really sticks in your craw, doesn't it?

Something "new and relevant" would not include the Paulistinian (Ron not Rand) issue cocktail of the surrender monkeyism of Neville Chamberlain, legalization of drugs and sexual perversion posing as "marriage," the Sangerian passion for baby-killing disguised as a let the states worry about it (which they cannot under Roe vs, Wade), a minimalist level of national defense that might look like Fortress Iowa, most of the Libertoonian Party platform, and a disdain for a murdered Navy Seal hero straight out of the playbook of the Westboro Baptist Church (not to be confused with the fine folks who ARE actual Baptists) and its sorry excuse for a pastor anti-American Fathead Fred Phelps.

Rubio is a great guy with a real future and the GOP is lucky to have him.

"...(L)et's start on something new and relevant." That assumes that there is an "us" which there is not and which there never will be.

21 posted on 02/07/2013 4:18:24 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: iopscusa
I note your understandable silence as to your conservative credentials, if any. Making up phony "credentials" invites investigation of your claims. No credentials. No claims.

Remember always that your previous posts suggest that the "something new and relevant" that you pine for would be an America without Hispanics or Catholics and one concocted in the looney bin occupied by Ron (not Rand) Paul.

Since both Catholics and Hispanics have been here since before there was a USA, that part would be new. OTOH, it will never be. There are probably 25 million so-called "illegal" Mexicans here right now and whatever the hysterical grumps and bigots of the anti-Mexican zealotry may REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want, they aren't going anywhere else like Mexico in the absence of a total collapse of the US economy.

We have blithely hidden our heads in the sand for 40 years since Roe vs. Wade, making believe that it was just about "women's rights." Planned Barrenhood, since the days of Margaret Sanger (later abetted by such GOP-E "Republican" Board of Directors members as the late Peggy GOLDWATER and Dorothy Walker BUSH, mother of Bush the Elder and granny of Bush the Younger) just assumed that placing abortion mills in ghetto and barrio neighborhoods would assist in achieving, as Margaret Sanger used to say, "more children from the fit and fewer from the unfit." Goebbels would be SO proud! This was always the hallmark issue of the GOP-E, right up there with protecting Muffy's trust fund uber alles.

Now personally, I despise Eric Cantor (in spite of his Judaism) as a Trojan horse. He arranged for something north of half a million dollars from corrupt Texas contractors to pour into the campaign of carpetbagger Adam Kinzinger (from Chicagoland NE Illinois near Indiana) to defeat a superb 20 year incumbent Don Manzullo in an overwhelmingly Republican district thankfully distant from Chicagoland and up against Iowa in NW Illinois. Manzullo's crime was to publicly issue a call to Weepy John Boehner in December, 2011, for a resolution to tell Obozo: NO MORE DEBT LIMIT INCREASES. That meant that the corrupt interests that are the life support system of Boehner, Cantor McCarthy and other whores like them in the GOP-E "leader"ship might not get that ohhhh soooo important federal grea$e.

Today's news (New York Times 2/7/13) carries the story that the House Ethics Committee and the Federal Elections Commission is investigating the role of Peoria Congressman Aaron Schock in instigating Cantor to influence illegal levels of PAC contributions to Kinzinger.

Like most actual conservatives, I would abolish the federal Department of Education (among MANY others) and carry no brief for NCLB. As to "amnesty," I fail to see what people coming here for a better job, a better home, a better country and a better future for their kids have done wrong to suggest that they need "amnesty." They can stay put, live their lives and contribute to this country as the ancestors of almost all of us have done.

Of course, if you are an American Indian (native American to the pc crowd) you can complain about the results of all this immigration into your land. Somehow, I doubt that you qualify on that score. OTOH, almost ALL Mexicans here ARE descendants of Native Americans such as Aztecs and Arawaks and Apaches and others, even if not pure blooded descendants.

Also, your chosen examples Rubio and Cantor just HAPPEN to be Hispanic and Jewish respectively. Surprise! Surprise! and Surprise!

Ummmm, ideas of thirty years ago were the ideas of Ronaldus Maximus and the American restoration. You got a problem with that??? Do tell! Reagan's ideas were a failure??? Who knew? Naturally, you would find such ideas unacceptable since Reagan was neither an anti-Semite nor an anti-Hispanic bigot. He had a program to accommodate transient Mexican farm workers way back in the 1960s when he was governor and it had been requested by Senator George Murphy. Reagan was also close to the thoroughly decent Jack Kemp. Really sticks in your craw, doesn't it?

Something "new and relevant" would not include the Paulistinian (Ron not Rand) issue cocktail of the surrender monkeyism of Neville Chamberlain, legalization of drugs and sexual perversion posing as "marriage," the Sangerian passion for baby-killing disguised as a let the states worry about it (which they cannot under Roe vs, Wade), a minimalist level of national defense that might look like Fortress Iowa, most of the Libertoonian Party platform, and a disdain for a murdered Navy Seal hero straight out of the playbook of the Westboro Baptist Church (not to be confused with the fine folks who ARE actual Baptists) and its sorry excuse for a pastor anti-American Fathead Fred Phelps.

Rubio is a great guy with a real future and the GOP is lucky to have him.

"...(L)et's start on something new and relevant." That assumes that there is an "us" which there is not and which there never will be.

22 posted on 02/07/2013 4:18:48 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: iopscusa
I note your understandable silence as to your conservative credentials, if any. Making up phony "credentials" invites investigation of your claims. No credentials. No claims.

Remember always that your previous posts suggest that the "something new and relevant" that you pine for would be an America without Hispanics or Catholics and one concocted in the looney bin occupied by Ron (not Rand) Paul.

Since both Catholics and Hispanics have been here since before there was a USA, that part would be new. OTOH, it will never be. There are probably 25 million so-called "illegal" Mexicans here right now and whatever the hysterical grumps and bigots of the anti-Mexican zealotry may REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want, they aren't going anywhere else like Mexico in the absence of a total collapse of the US economy.

We have blithely hidden our heads in the sand for 40 years since Roe vs. Wade, making believe that it was just about "women's rights." Planned Barrenhood, since the days of Margaret Sanger (later abetted by such GOP-E "Republican" Board of Directors members as the late Peggy GOLDWATER and Dorothy Walker BUSH, mother of Bush the Elder and granny of Bush the Younger) just assumed that placing abortion mills in ghetto and barrio neighborhoods would assist in achieving, as Margaret Sanger used to say, "more children from the fit and fewer from the unfit." Goebbels would be SO proud! This was always the hallmark issue of the GOP-E, right up there with protecting Muffy's trust fund uber alles.

Now personally, I despise Eric Cantor (in spite of his Judaism) as a Trojan horse. He arranged for something north of half a million dollars from corrupt Texas contractors to pour into the campaign of carpetbagger Adam Kinzinger (from Chicagoland NE Illinois near Indiana) to defeat a superb 20 year incumbent Don Manzullo in an overwhelmingly Republican district thankfully distant from Chicagoland and up against Iowa in NW Illinois. Manzullo's crime was to publicly issue a call to Weepy John Boehner in December, 2011, for a resolution to tell Obozo: NO MORE DEBT LIMIT INCREASES. That meant that the corrupt interests that are the life support system of Boehner, Cantor McCarthy and other whores like them in the GOP-E "leader"ship might not get that ohhhh soooo important federal grea$e.

Today's news (New York Times 2/7/13) carries the story that the House Ethics Committee and the Federal Elections Commission is investigating the role of Peoria Congressman Aaron Schock in instigating Cantor to influence illegal levels of PAC contributions to Kinzinger.

Like most actual conservatives, I would abolish the federal Department of Education (among MANY others) and carry no brief for NCLB. As to "amnesty," I fail to see what people coming here for a better job, a better home, a better country and a better future for their kids have done wrong to suggest that they need "amnesty." They can stay put, live their lives and contribute to this country as the ancestors of almost all of us have done.

Of course, if you are an American Indian (native American to the pc crowd) you can complain about the results of all this immigration into your land. Somehow, I doubt that you qualify on that score. OTOH, almost ALL Mexicans here ARE descendants of Native Americans such as Aztecs and Arawaks and Apaches and others, even if not pure blooded descendants.

Also, your chosen examples Rubio and Cantor just HAPPEN to be Hispanic and Jewish respectively. Surprise! Surprise! and Surprise!

Ummmm, ideas of thirty years ago were the ideas of Ronaldus Maximus and the American restoration. You got a problem with that??? Do tell! Reagan's ideas were a failure??? Who knew? Naturally, you would find such ideas unacceptable since Reagan was neither an anti-Semite nor an anti-Hispanic bigot. He had a program to accommodate transient Mexican farm workers way back in the 1960s when he was governor and it had been requested by Senator George Murphy. Reagan was also close to the thoroughly decent Jack Kemp. Really sticks in your craw, doesn't it?

Something "new and relevant" would not include the Paulistinian (Ron not Rand) issue cocktail of the surrender monkeyism of Neville Chamberlain, legalization of drugs and sexual perversion posing as "marriage," the Sangerian passion for baby-killing disguised as a let the states worry about it (which they cannot under Roe vs, Wade), a minimalist level of national defense that might look like Fortress Iowa, most of the Libertoonian Party platform, and a disdain for a murdered Navy Seal hero straight out of the playbook of the Westboro Baptist Church (not to be confused with the fine folks who ARE actual Baptists) and its sorry excuse for a pastor anti-American Fathead Fred Phelps.

Rubio is a great guy with a real future and the GOP is lucky to have him.

"...(L)et's start on something new and relevant." That assumes that there is an "us" which there is not and which there never will be.

23 posted on 02/07/2013 4:25:13 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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