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Maybe Karl Rove Has a Point
Human Events ^ | 2/6/2013 09:30 PM | By: David Harsanyi

Posted on 02/07/2013 6:50:50 AM PST by Perdogg

Let’s put ideology aside for a moment.

Karl Rove, architect of the George W. Bush-era Republican victories, says he’s sick of fanatics running his party into the ground. So he’s devised a strategy to preemptively sink unelectable candidates early in the process. He’s formed a new super PAC to implement this strategy. It’s called the Conservative Victory Project, and it’s led by a guy named Steven Law, who was the head of another super PAC, called American Crossroads, which went something like 0-7 in the 2012 election cycle. (Not that anyone’s counting.)

Grass-roots conservatives, needless to say, are quite perturbed. “I’m filing the paperwork to form a super PAC to support freedom-loving conservative alternatives to (Karl Rove) on FOX,” tweeted former Rep. Joe Walsh. Surely, he won’t be the last to counter Rove’s efforts

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To: Perdogg

I have mixed feelings about this. On the on e hand, I am a Conservative and want to see true conservatives in the Senate. On the other hand, it is important that the candidate nominated can beat the Democrat. In the last 2 election cycles, the Republicans threw away winnable Senate seats, notably Harry Reid’s seat in Nevada in 2010 as well as the Maryland seat that same year. In 2012, they lost seats they should have won in Indiana and Missouri. I probably have missed a few, but because of fielding unelectable candidates, they most likely forfeited the Senate Majority to Harry Reid and his gang. They have a real possibility of winning the Majority in 2014, but if they don’t have strong candidates we will get more of the same.


21 posted on 02/07/2013 7:03:15 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Perdogg

Bottom line. When someone like Rove brings up Akin, McDonnell and Angle, but ignores the stories behind Crist/Rubio and Cruz/Dewhurst, etc.

There is no guarantee with any one candidate, and pointing out one or two losses while ignoring a historic wave election is dishonest and disingenuous. 2010 was the biggest year on record for our party, and lot were underdogs in the primaries. I, for one, and thrilled with that class of freshman, as we had more true conservatives, more business people, and more ‘real people’ elected than any other year in my lifetime.

The DC idiots will signal out a loss in NV as proof that the base can’t select a candidate, but they ignore that we lost easy pickups in CO that year, and a slew of easy Senate pickups in 2012 from ‘safe’ candidates.


22 posted on 02/07/2013 7:03:27 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Yep, I found Karl Rove's "Point"

23 posted on 02/07/2013 7:04:42 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Peter W. Kessler

No. It makes you right.


24 posted on 02/07/2013 7:05:11 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Perdogg

Impeach Rove (so to speak). Get him off the air now.

Now.


25 posted on 02/07/2013 7:05:30 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Mygirlsmom

Good point. Reading this article one might think Rove & Co have a perfect record on selecting candidates.


26 posted on 02/07/2013 7:05:36 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Perdogg

Well you have to admit, we’d be much better off if Christine O’Donnell, Sharon Angle, Todd Akin, and Richard Mourdock hadn’t been nominated. They all took lead pipe cinches for the R’s, and gave them to the D’s.

And yes, the people they beat for the nominations weren’t as conservative. However, if you want to be a purist, then don’t complain when your party is perpetually in the minority.


27 posted on 02/07/2013 7:06:35 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

Sorry not going along with your bashing of Christine O’Donnell.

Not at all.


28 posted on 02/07/2013 7:07:35 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Perdogg

“Not an endorsement, but food for thought”

That won’t be well received here! But I agree, it is something to consider. The Democrats have the luxury of not worrying about their candidates because their “brand” is so strong right now.

It’s a fact for either party, the candidates farther to each extreme do well in primaries, and not as well in the general elections. As distasteful as it may be, it’s all about winning elections.

Liberals beat us by playing the long game. The playbook is open and easy to read. We can implement that playbook, or we can whine and cry as our elected officials become more and more leftist.


29 posted on 02/07/2013 7:08:04 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Peter W. Kessler

The whole Rove strategy is to slow the surrender to the Democrats at every opportunity. The Rove strategy isn’t to reduce taxes. The strategy is to reduce the amount of tax increases by Democrats. He doesn’t want to increase freedom. He wants to slow the loss of our freedoms.

That’s how we ended up with 53% of the budget going to entitlements. Rove would claim victory because it wasn’t 60%....yet.


30 posted on 02/07/2013 7:10:57 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Well good for you. Thank goodness Reagan didn’t “leave the R’s” and instead BECAME the R’s - but good for you that you “left the R’s.”

By the way, does this make you immune “to the D’s.”

didn’t think so. Hows that workin for ya.


If you are familiar with the sirenity prayer, you will understand my position on this. I expend my efforts where they will actually matter. And in the world as it sits today, there is no human solution. No political party will solve this thing.

What AM I doing? In October of 2008 I bought a small farm occupying an entier finger of a plateau. In 2011 I moved there from my 45 year home of Seattle. My only serious investments are precious metals, meat and vegetables grwon on the property, guns and ammo for hunting (and other uses), solar and wind power and useful buildings on my property so that my progeny, when (not if) ths SHTF can live - assuming they can get here.

This is about the whole world, not just the US. And no politician with a plan that will actually solve this can possibly be elected. It will probably take God’s overt involvement. Yeah, I’m expecting Ezekiel 38,39, Daniel, Revelation, Matthew 24, etc. to come down on us very soon.

But then, I have not had TV since 1997. I have a different perspective than many. On a side note, if I still lived in Seattle the November election would have been hard to take. Now, it just reinforces that I did the right thing.


31 posted on 02/07/2013 7:11:24 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Perdogg

Karl Rove picker more losers and drove opportunity into the ground and wasted more money than ANY conservative candidate he can mention.

In fact, he is directly responsible for the loss in the Missouri Senate Race.

He led the piling on by republicans, something that democrats NEVER would have done.


32 posted on 02/07/2013 7:11:33 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: brownsfan
The Democrats have the luxury of not worrying about their candidates because their “brand” is so strong right now.

Their brand is strong because they bother to sell it.

33 posted on 02/07/2013 7:11:54 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Perdogg

Did I miss the joke?

Does this author actually think electing RINO’s is progress?


34 posted on 02/07/2013 7:12:06 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: bigdaddy45
then don’t complain when your party

I don't have a party.

35 posted on 02/07/2013 7:12:37 AM PST by DManA
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To: Perdogg
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36 posted on 02/07/2013 7:13:35 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Well said.

Although the Tea Party was very grassroots born of justified frustration, it and the “big tent” recruitment push by the GOP has some responsibility in a number of un-electable candidates muddying the Primary water.

What most of us conservatives fail to see is that the elected GOPers spent like drunken sailors because that is what their constituent majority wanted. The overage came from everyone thinking “their pet project” was essential and sacred and it was the other guys that were pissin the money away.

Our disheveled political situation has lots of finger pointing. An old saying is appropriate, “when point a finger, we fail to recognize that a greater number of our fingers are pointing right back at us”.

37 posted on 02/07/2013 7:13:59 AM PST by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: Perdogg

"Let’s put ideology aside for a moment."

Let's try that statement in various scenarios, and see how they'd play out... Nah, I don't see this as a worthwhile point to argue from...
38 posted on 02/07/2013 7:15:16 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: Perdogg

” . . . winning elections seems to be a crucial part of politics.”

and

” . . . institutionalize William F. Buckley’s rule: Support the most conservative candidate who is electable.”

Good article.


39 posted on 02/07/2013 7:15:33 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: skeeter
All the media has to do is omit or take a word or two out of context, or ignore context, and presto - the 'wacko' narrative.

No kidding. The media shouted it from the rooftops that "Rick Santorum says he doesn't care about unemployment" when what he clearly meant was that unemployment was a result of a failed government policies and those have to be dealt with first.

In fact, in the Santorum case and many others, its not even a context issue. The media just knows that many people will knowingly lie to themselves and the media happily provides them with a line of thought. Its an ethical issue that goes right down to the people themselves.

A politician from 30 years ago could never make the cut today because of a manipulative media and willing public. Here in Michigan the democrats went ballistic when Pete Hoekstra said that the 17th amendment had been a disaster. The local media said he doesn't want people to vote but they didn't offer up any info on what the 17th amendment actually did.
40 posted on 02/07/2013 7:16:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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