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Ex-cop manhunt: Fresh tracks found in Big Bear snow
LAT ^ | February 7, 2013 | 3:27pm

Posted on 02/07/2013 4:28:36 PM PST by BenLurkin

Authorities in Big Bear have spotted fresh tracks believed to be those of a fugitive ex-Los Angeles police officer wanted in connection with a series of shootings and are combing the area for him, a Fire Department official told The Times.

Big Bear Lake Fire Department Asst. Chief Mark Mills also said the burning pickup discovered on a forest road has been linked to Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, sought in connection with a series of shootings that have left three people dead and two wounded.

TV helicopters showed the pickup being readied to be towed from the scene.

The truck was discovered hours into an intensive manhunt for Dorner that spanned Southern California. Although sources said there had been multiple reported sightings of Dorner's truck in the Big Bear area on Thursday, the burnt truck was too badly charred to immediately confirm it was his.

Meanwhile, the mountain community locked down schools and closed the nearby Bear Mountain Resort as a fatigue-clad SWAT team walked through the woods, rifles drawn.

Sean Jacques, director of loss prevention for Big Bear Mountain Resorts, said that after the burning truck was discovered on a forest service road, local law enforcement told resort officials to keep an eye out for Dorner and provided a description of the suspect.

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TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; christopherdorner; copkiller; dorner; lapd; leftwingmurderer; manhunt; partisanmediashills; socalkiller; socalmanhunt
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1 posted on 02/07/2013 4:28:42 PM PST by BenLurkin
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rifles “drawn”?

Oh well...it’s the L A Times.


2 posted on 02/07/2013 4:29:48 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin
So he's lured them onto ground of his choosing and he's armed and competent? This should be interesting.

/johnny

3 posted on 02/07/2013 4:30:56 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BenLurkin

Need to find him in some big bear turds.


4 posted on 02/07/2013 4:33:30 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BenLurkin
325 pound black man hiding in the snow up in the 98.7% white community of Big Bear. That'll work.

Yeah, brilliant tactical plan there, "Rambo".

5 posted on 02/07/2013 4:33:57 PM PST by The KG9 Kid (Bring back the booby hatches.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It does seem to be a lure...


6 posted on 02/07/2013 4:34:26 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: JRandomFreeper
For some reason, I'm reminded of an old Hawaii Five-0 episode about a sniper in a hilltop bunker.
7 posted on 02/07/2013 4:36:37 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: JRandomFreeper

My dog did some research and was quite relieved to find the fugitive had no pets.


8 posted on 02/07/2013 4:38:01 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

bump!


9 posted on 02/07/2013 4:38:16 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: JRandomFreeper

They just reported that ‘ironically’ today is uniform day at the lake and a lot of law enforcement was already there. I think you are right.


10 posted on 02/07/2013 4:39:03 PM PST by mnehring
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yup that was my thought when i hheard he was in Big Bear and I guess hes go a 50 Cal too


11 posted on 02/07/2013 4:40:08 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: BenLurkin

Well, if he’s held up a person and had them drive down to Lucerne Valley, he’s halfway to never being found for a long time. The Cali desert can hide a resourceful man pretty easily.


12 posted on 02/07/2013 4:40:28 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: struggle

I expect that he will be dead by Monday morning.


13 posted on 02/07/2013 4:42:12 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Charles Martel

...And I Want Some Candy and a Gun That Shoots
A mentally disturbed former soldier buys a new rifle and ammunition after a sales clerk fails to check him out. The soldier even signs his name as “George C. Patton.” He then holes up in a spot on Diamond Head and shoots out the tires of a motorist’s car and proceeds to shoot two police officers, one fatally. McGarrett coordinates the police response. The more McGarrett finds out, the worse it gets. It turns out the sniper has a weird relationship with his mother. The mother, in turn, denies the former soldier is her son. Time is running out and Five-O must prepare to...


14 posted on 02/07/2013 4:42:22 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: The KG9 Kid
325 pound black man hiding in the snow up in the 98.7% white community of Big Bear.

Maybe this is how Bigfoot got his start.

15 posted on 02/07/2013 4:42:51 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: al baby
And he's probably got a counter to IR spotting for the nighttime. Hell, I'm a cook, and I know that much.

This has already gotten very real, and very serious for the powers that be.

/johnny

16 posted on 02/07/2013 4:43:29 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
So he's lured them onto ground of his choosing and he's armed and competent?

He's taking the high ground.

17 posted on 02/07/2013 4:44:21 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....I want a bailout!!!)
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To: cripplecreek

One summer, a fellow from the big city was going on a camping trip into the Rocky Mountains. He got all his gear, made the drive, and was at a local shop just before starting his hike into the wilderness.

He says to the store clerk, “Say, do you all have bears around here?”

“Yep,” replied the clerk.

“What kind?”

“Well, we’ve got black bears and grizzly bears.”

The hiker replied, “OK, I guess I better get some of these bear bells then. That way, when I’m hiking the bears will know I’m coming and I won’t startle them.” He gets a couple bells and takes them to the counter to pay.

“By the way, is there any way to tell if there are grizzly bears or black bears around?”, he asked.

“Sure,” replies the clerk, “ just check their scat to see what type of bear is around. You can tell the type of bear by what’s in its scat.”

“Hmmm, what would I expect to see in the scat?” asked the hiker as he picked up his bells to leave.

“Well, black bear scat’s got berries, leaves, some grass. Grizzly bear scat’s got bear bells.”


18 posted on 02/07/2013 4:45:48 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are The 21st Century's Muskets. The 2nd Amendment Is The First Human Right.)
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To: mnehring
He is using psyops as a force multiplier.

He doesn't have a lot of cards in his hand, but you gotta know every cop looking for him has tense muscles across his shoulders, and a completely airtight sphincter.

/johnny

19 posted on 02/07/2013 4:46:50 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

He’s a dumbass, going to where he’ll be an easy FLIR + sniper kill from a helo.

A city is where you disappear, not up in snow country blazing like a torch, for goodness sake.

Unless it was a diversion, and he had another ride to go the other way. But my money is he wants to die on a mountain top, battling his demons.

A sniper in a chopper will be happy to comply.


20 posted on 02/07/2013 4:47:19 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: BenLurkin

Life imitates art except he won't need the black-face.
21 posted on 02/07/2013 4:47:39 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum
Not higher than a helicopter.

(+)


22 posted on 02/07/2013 4:48:24 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: BenLurkin

Well, we’ll see. If someone’s truck is found burning on a “service road” (in other words mountain access) he either ditched it on purpose and burned it because he had another vehicle and wanted a distraction, or he’s one hell of a lousy driver.

I’m guessing that he knew all the highways were covered, so he climbed Big Bear, got a better 4X4 vehicle, burned the other one so the cops would crowd it for a few hours, and probably blew through Lucerne Valley and into the desert matrix of offroad area before the Big Bear folks had the sense to radio ahead.

I’m thinking that he was probably in the military once and knows 29 Palms/Bicycle Lake and has a good weeks worth of food, a 4X4 vehicle, and a place to hide under. Not hard to find if you look.


23 posted on 02/07/2013 4:49:39 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: BenLurkin

I know Big Bear, and I can tell you that they are in terror.

For those who are totally unarmed, and who are lacking talent and personalities for this kind of situation, they are incredibly vulnerable in their cabins and isolation.

Even the armed and prepared are vulnerable, especially if they are trying to manage a household of others.


24 posted on 02/07/2013 4:49:48 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: Travis McGee
Unless it was a diversion, and he had another ride to go the other way.

That was my thought when I saw the picture of the truck burning. You would be able to see that for miles. And now, dozens if not hundreds of cops are on that mountain, right where his signal led them.

25 posted on 02/07/2013 4:50:24 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Focault's Pendulum
He's taking the high ground.

By the book. Just like running down a checklist.

If he follows his training, and doesn't make mistakes, this is going to be very, very expensive. In gold and blood.

/johnny

26 posted on 02/07/2013 4:50:24 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Travis McGee

They tried that in Rambo.


27 posted on 02/07/2013 4:51:53 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

“...98.7% white community of Big Bear.”

And the remaining 1.3% is Asian, right ?


28 posted on 02/07/2013 4:52:24 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: struggle

After thinking through my own experiences in Cali, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s on top of Ord mountain with a rifle, binoculars, and some food with his vehicle stowed in some nook in Ord Valley.


29 posted on 02/07/2013 4:53:04 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: BenLurkin

>>rifles “drawn”?<<

Of course. Don’t you have a hip holster for your AR-15? That’s so you can ‘quick draw’ your assault weapon just like Jesse James did in the Old West. Military-style rifle holsters are also popular with people who shoot up schools. Adam Lanza had one at Newtown, don’t you know?

[/s]


30 posted on 02/07/2013 4:53:17 PM PST by MeganC (“Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!”)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

This ain’t a movie


31 posted on 02/07/2013 4:53:34 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Travis McGee
"He’s a dumbass, going to where he’ll be an easy FLIR + sniper kill from a helo."

If he had a plan, he wouldn't have tried to unsuccessfully steal a boat in San Diego this morning.

I suppose he could have pre-positioned a vehicle up in Big Bear and caused LEAs to focus there because of a time-controlled vehicle fire, and is therefore now miles away...

... but I suspect that he's delusional. If he's still up there in the snow, I can't believe he's never considered all the Thermal/FLIR that would be searching for him. That's cheap enough that even podunk LEAs can afford at least one quality unit.

32 posted on 02/07/2013 4:55:53 PM PST by The KG9 Kid (Bring back the booby hatches.)
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To: Travis McGee; All

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe he paid someone to take his truck up there and burn it.

Of course, could have stashed another vehicle there, now that the Titan was “burned” in more than one way.

I think he would be smart to hole up for a week and let the LAPD get tired of being on alert all day.


33 posted on 02/07/2013 4:58:06 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: struggle
burned it (truck) because he had another vehicle

reasonable hypothesis

he was probably in the military

please correct me someone (if incorrect). This perp is ex-military.

34 posted on 02/07/2013 4:58:16 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Travis McGee
I can defeat FLIR. I'm just a cook. IR isn't hard to block.

I still think it's a diversion. He's drawn attention to where he wants it. The opfor is reacting. He's inside their OODA loop.

If he truly does want to die on a mountain, I'm sure he'll be accomodated.

/johnny

35 posted on 02/07/2013 4:58:45 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BenLurkin

He’s getting ready for a long hibernation.


36 posted on 02/07/2013 5:02:06 PM PST by Third Person (I'm in my prime.)
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To: BenLurkin
Cop-killer is 'sick,' Villaraigosa says in touting gun control

Headline spotted at link. Of course he's sick. He says he supports gun control, Obama, and Piers Morgan.

Really sick.

37 posted on 02/07/2013 5:02:47 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

He tried to get a boat in San Diego and failed. This makes me think this plan B at best. Plan Bs don’t work well in snow.

They have verified the VIN number on the burnt truck as his.


38 posted on 02/07/2013 5:03:06 PM PST by ThomasThomas
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To: The KG9 Kid

Infrared doesn’t see thru trees.


39 posted on 02/07/2013 5:03:05 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: al baby

Yep, that’s the one. A serious nutcase, with serious shooting skills. IIRC, that episode created enough of a stir that it was never added to the cycle of episodes to be re-run.


40 posted on 02/07/2013 5:03:33 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: ThomasThomas
Eric Rudolph managed to keep from getting caught for 5 years.

/johnny

41 posted on 02/07/2013 5:06:16 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: al baby

Yeah, and if I recall, McGarrett takes him out from about 300 feet away with 1 well placed shot from his .38 snub nose.


42 posted on 02/07/2013 5:06:52 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Right Wing Assault

>>(Dorner) says he supports gun control, Obama, and Piers Morgan.<<

No wonder some of his colleagues want to kill him.


43 posted on 02/07/2013 5:09:30 PM PST by MeganC (“Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!”)
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To: JRandomFreeper

iirc correctly, rudolph was apprehended eating out of a dumpster.


44 posted on 02/07/2013 5:10:41 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Rudolph watched the search teams leave every morning. Let’s just say they weren’t working themselves to death to find him if he was within view.


45 posted on 02/07/2013 5:13:07 PM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: Charles Martel

I still watch those old reruns from time to time good way to kill an hour or so


46 posted on 02/07/2013 5:14:19 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: no-to-illegals
Doesn't matter how he was caught. He kept the feds looking for him for 5 years. That's the point I was making.

This could get long and ugly. This guy has the initiative. Cops can only respond. And they haven't done that too well, considering the collateral damage already done.

/johnny

47 posted on 02/07/2013 5:14:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: no-to-illegals

Yeah, he is. His manifesto claims Colin Powell was his inspiration to join the military.


48 posted on 02/07/2013 5:17:00 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: al baby
Good Lord, how I despise TV cop shows and movies. Can't even watch NCIS anymore.

Must. Kidnap. Abbey.

49 posted on 02/07/2013 5:18:06 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: BenLurkin

According to Mark Levin just a few minutes ago this guy has a manifesto attacking the NRA and praising the hosts on MSNBC. Anybody heard anything along these lines? The few ABC radio news blurbs I’ve heard have described him only as “anti law enforcement”.


50 posted on 02/07/2013 5:18:11 PM PST by Yardstick
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