Skip to comments.Ex-cop manhunt: Fresh tracks found in Big Bear snow
Posted on 02/07/2013 4:28:36 PM PST by BenLurkin
Authorities in Big Bear have spotted fresh tracks believed to be those of a fugitive ex-Los Angeles police officer wanted in connection with a series of shootings and are combing the area for him, a Fire Department official told The Times.
Big Bear Lake Fire Department Asst. Chief Mark Mills also said the burning pickup discovered on a forest road has been linked to Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, sought in connection with a series of shootings that have left three people dead and two wounded.
TV helicopters showed the pickup being readied to be towed from the scene.
The truck was discovered hours into an intensive manhunt for Dorner that spanned Southern California. Although sources said there had been multiple reported sightings of Dorner's truck in the Big Bear area on Thursday, the burnt truck was too badly charred to immediately confirm it was his.
Meanwhile, the mountain community locked down schools and closed the nearby Bear Mountain Resort as a fatigue-clad SWAT team walked through the woods, rifles drawn.
Sean Jacques, director of loss prevention for Big Bear Mountain Resorts, said that after the burning truck was discovered on a forest service road, local law enforcement told resort officials to keep an eye out for Dorner and provided a description of the suspect.
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Oh well...it’s the L A Times.
Need to find him in some big bear turds.
Yeah, brilliant tactical plan there, "Rambo".
It does seem to be a lure...
My dog did some research and was quite relieved to find the fugitive had no pets.
They just reported that ‘ironically’ today is uniform day at the lake and a lot of law enforcement was already there. I think you are right.
Yup that was my thought when i hheard he was in Big Bear and I guess hes go a 50 Cal too
Well, if he’s held up a person and had them drive down to Lucerne Valley, he’s halfway to never being found for a long time. The Cali desert can hide a resourceful man pretty easily.
I expect that he will be dead by Monday morning.
...And I Want Some Candy and a Gun That Shoots
A mentally disturbed former soldier buys a new rifle and ammunition after a sales clerk fails to check him out. The soldier even signs his name as “George C. Patton.” He then holes up in a spot on Diamond Head and shoots out the tires of a motorist’s car and proceeds to shoot two police officers, one fatally. McGarrett coordinates the police response. The more McGarrett finds out, the worse it gets. It turns out the sniper has a weird relationship with his mother. The mother, in turn, denies the former soldier is her son. Time is running out and Five-O must prepare to...
Maybe this is how Bigfoot got his start.
This has already gotten very real, and very serious for the powers that be.
He's taking the high ground.
One summer, a fellow from the big city was going on a camping trip into the Rocky Mountains. He got all his gear, made the drive, and was at a local shop just before starting his hike into the wilderness.
He says to the store clerk, “Say, do you all have bears around here?”
“Yep,” replied the clerk.
“Well, we’ve got black bears and grizzly bears.”
The hiker replied, “OK, I guess I better get some of these bear bells then. That way, when I’m hiking the bears will know I’m coming and I won’t startle them.” He gets a couple bells and takes them to the counter to pay.
“By the way, is there any way to tell if there are grizzly bears or black bears around?”, he asked.
“Sure,” replies the clerk, “ just check their scat to see what type of bear is around. You can tell the type of bear by what’s in its scat.”
“Hmmm, what would I expect to see in the scat?” asked the hiker as he picked up his bells to leave.
“Well, black bear scat’s got berries, leaves, some grass. Grizzly bear scat’s got bear bells.”
He doesn't have a lot of cards in his hand, but you gotta know every cop looking for him has tense muscles across his shoulders, and a completely airtight sphincter.
He’s a dumbass, going to where he’ll be an easy FLIR + sniper kill from a helo.
A city is where you disappear, not up in snow country blazing like a torch, for goodness sake.
Unless it was a diversion, and he had another ride to go the other way. But my money is he wants to die on a mountain top, battling his demons.
A sniper in a chopper will be happy to comply.
Well, we’ll see. If someone’s truck is found burning on a “service road” (in other words mountain access) he either ditched it on purpose and burned it because he had another vehicle and wanted a distraction, or he’s one hell of a lousy driver.
I’m guessing that he knew all the highways were covered, so he climbed Big Bear, got a better 4X4 vehicle, burned the other one so the cops would crowd it for a few hours, and probably blew through Lucerne Valley and into the desert matrix of offroad area before the Big Bear folks had the sense to radio ahead.
I’m thinking that he was probably in the military once and knows 29 Palms/Bicycle Lake and has a good weeks worth of food, a 4X4 vehicle, and a place to hide under. Not hard to find if you look.
I know Big Bear, and I can tell you that they are in terror.
For those who are totally unarmed, and who are lacking talent and personalities for this kind of situation, they are incredibly vulnerable in their cabins and isolation.
Even the armed and prepared are vulnerable, especially if they are trying to manage a household of others.
That was my thought when I saw the picture of the truck burning. You would be able to see that for miles. And now, dozens if not hundreds of cops are on that mountain, right where his signal led them.
By the book. Just like running down a checklist.
If he follows his training, and doesn't make mistakes, this is going to be very, very expensive. In gold and blood.
They tried that in Rambo.
“...98.7% white community of Big Bear.”
And the remaining 1.3% is Asian, right ?
After thinking through my own experiences in Cali, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s on top of Ord mountain with a rifle, binoculars, and some food with his vehicle stowed in some nook in Ord Valley.
Of course. Don’t you have a hip holster for your AR-15? That’s so you can ‘quick draw’ your assault weapon just like Jesse James did in the Old West. Military-style rifle holsters are also popular with people who shoot up schools. Adam Lanza had one at Newtown, don’t you know?
This ain’t a movie
If he had a plan, he wouldn't have tried to unsuccessfully steal a boat in San Diego this morning.
I suppose he could have pre-positioned a vehicle up in Big Bear and caused LEAs to focus there because of a time-controlled vehicle fire, and is therefore now miles away...
... but I suspect that he's delusional. If he's still up there in the snow, I can't believe he's never considered all the Thermal/FLIR that would be searching for him. That's cheap enough that even podunk LEAs can afford at least one quality unit.
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe he paid someone to take his truck up there and burn it.
Of course, could have stashed another vehicle there, now that the Titan was “burned” in more than one way.
I think he would be smart to hole up for a week and let the LAPD get tired of being on alert all day.
he was probably in the military
please correct me someone (if incorrect). This perp is ex-military.
I still think it's a diversion. He's drawn attention to where he wants it. The opfor is reacting. He's inside their OODA loop.
If he truly does want to die on a mountain, I'm sure he'll be accomodated.
He’s getting ready for a long hibernation.
Headline spotted at link. Of course he's sick. He says he supports gun control, Obama, and Piers Morgan.
He tried to get a boat in San Diego and failed. This makes me think this plan B at best. Plan Bs don’t work well in snow.
They have verified the VIN number on the burnt truck as his.
Infrared doesn’t see thru trees.
Yep, that’s the one. A serious nutcase, with serious shooting skills. IIRC, that episode created enough of a stir that it was never added to the cycle of episodes to be re-run.
Yeah, and if I recall, McGarrett takes him out from about 300 feet away with 1 well placed shot from his .38 snub nose.
>>(Dorner) says he supports gun control, Obama, and Piers Morgan.<<
No wonder some of his colleagues want to kill him.
iirc correctly, rudolph was apprehended eating out of a dumpster.
Rudolph watched the search teams leave every morning. Let’s just say they weren’t working themselves to death to find him if he was within view.
I still watch those old reruns from time to time good way to kill an hour or so
This could get long and ugly. This guy has the initiative. Cops can only respond. And they haven't done that too well, considering the collateral damage already done.
Yeah, he is. His manifesto claims Colin Powell was his inspiration to join the military.
Must. Kidnap. Abbey.
According to Mark Levin just a few minutes ago this guy has a manifesto attacking the NRA and praising the hosts on MSNBC. Anybody heard anything along these lines? The few ABC radio news blurbs I’ve heard have described him only as “anti law enforcement”.