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Is Obama Pushing for a Civil War?
Capitol Hll Outsider ^ | 2/8/2013 | JB Williams

Posted on 02/08/2013 4:50:28 AM PST by IbJensen

Over the last four years, the Obama administration has violated nearly every Article of the US Constitution and every Amendment in the Bill of Rights. They have worked to ignite racial tensions, class warfare, religious confrontations and political divisions far worse than those that led to the first American Civil War.

Over 70% of Americans oppose ObamaCare… so of course, Obama rammed ObamaCare through in an unprecedented misuse of executive power that shut out the entire legitimate legislative process, as spineless Republicans sat quietly on their hands watching it all happen. The people said “no more deficit spending…and no more raising the debt ceiling…” so, Obama ignored the debt ceiling and ran up the federal debt by more than 60% in one term.

The ideological divide in America is not only deeper than ever in history, it is now galvanized. With the leftist gun grab underway, the moment when push comes to shove is fast approaching.

Since his second stolen election, Obama and his Marxist minions are doing all they can to ignite civil disobedience from more than half of the nation’s population. But are the new American Marxists pushing for much more than civil disobedience?

As Obama attempts to disarm law-abiding Citizens despite Second Amendment rights, he is arming known terrorists all over the globe. His mindless minions are insulting more than 70% of Americans and threatening to “kick their asses again” on the basis that most Americans still believe in those dusty old concepts recorded in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Lawyers trained not in law or the constitution, but rather in rules of procedure and precedence, by yesterday’s draft-dodgers turned law professors, are telling the American people that the Constitution and Bill of Rights are themselves “unconstitutional.”

Obama wants to control everything down to school lunches, individual medical care, what kind of cars we can drive, who can own a weapon and what kind, attacking cigarette smokers while trying to legalize, regulate and tax marijuana, as his fellow Marxists discuss how to “re-educate” Citizens that just don’t want to go along to get along.

If you hadn’t noticed that you woke up in pre-world war Germany yet, it’s only because your city has not yet experienced Obama’s Urban Warfare Training of the US Military. An Obama Justice Department Memo approves the use of Drone Attacks on US Citizens and reports of Military Officers leaving service because they refused to confirm that they will follow orders to fire on US Citizens are increasing.

If Obama really thinks he is going to seize control of citizens’ private 401ks to pay for his international Marxist movement – he is going to need more than a few lawyers and soldiers to do it. Clearly, Obama thinks that HE is the Supreme Law of this Land.

For more than 230 years, Americans have revered the most fundamental protections of freedom and liberty, their Bible, their Constitution and their guns. Under the Obama administration, this is now the new operative definition of “domestic terrorist.” According to Obama’s DOJ, they now have the right to use Drone attacks on these “terrorists” just like the Drone attacks used to kill terrorists in Pakistan.

This is either the strangest set of anti-American coincidences in human history, or something wicked this way comes… Even Father of American Socialism FDR got it right once…

“As a matter of fact and law, the governing rights of the States are all of those which have not been surrendered to the National Government by the Constitution or its amendments.”

Individually, each of these documented events is highly troublesome in the Land of the once Free and Home of the once Brave. But combined, it all adds up to the Obama administration and their Marxist minions working around the clock to shove America into a second Civil War.

Is there any other way to see it?

As Obama and his international leftist friends drive the nation deeper and deeper into economic insanity, trillions of dollars in public debt that American productivity can never pay, a collapse of our entire economy is imminent. It’s just a matter of what day they decide to stop propping it all up with baseless money printed up in the backroom, no more valuable than monopoly money.

How can a nation hooked on adult cartoons and porn, that now tunes into Comedy Central for the latest “news” possibly combat what is clearly happening here?

I believe that a Civil War is coming alright… but this time, it won’t be North vs. South, East vs. West or even Republican vs. Democrat. It won’t be the 99% average Americans vs. the 1% super-rich either, nor will it be white vs. black or Christian vs. atheist. It won’t be Americans against their own military either.

It will be ALL Americans, including their military, against the Marxist anti-Americans destroying America, which means politicians, their lawyers and their leftist minions in the press. I wouldn’t want to be them when they finally succeed in pushing the nation to internal war.

Politicians, their lawyers and their minions in the press are NOT the kind of people that go to war. They are only the kind of people that order other people to war. When “other folks” refuse orders to go to war on their own citizens, their families, their friends, the people issuing those orders will be standing bare naked on the front lines and nobody will be able to save their sorry asses from the wrath of the American people.

Most Americans have never known anything but freedom and liberty. As a result, they take it all for granted on most days. But when threatened, the redneck nature in every American shows up, and redneck is not a region in the country, it’s a bad attitude towards all who would threaten our freedom.

This land is our land… remember?

This land is your land, this land is my land

From California, to the New York Island

From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters

This land was made for you and me

Every State Constitution begins with words very similar to this –

“That all power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their peace, safety, and happiness; for the advancement of those ends they have at all times, an unalienable and indefeasible right to alter, reform, or abolish the government in such manner as they may think proper.” – Tennessee Constitution

The federal constitution, a compact between the states that creates and governs the federal government (not the people) at all times, begins as follows…

“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

The politicians don’t rule the people, as all power is inherent in the people, not their government.

The US Military has not sworn an allegiance to any politician or political agenda. They are sworn to protect and preserve the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the people of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic – even those who manage to seize control of the people’s White House and attempt to use the power of the people’s resources, against the people.

If Obama and his Marxist friends want a war in American streets, they are going to get one. Sooner or later, the American people will accept Obama’s many invitations to war.

The American people have nothing to fear but fear itself, because if and when American Marxists push this fight into the streets, the enemies of freedom will find themselves greatly outnumbered and ill-prepared for the people they have so foolishly underestimated.

No sane American wants to see our differences settled this way… But as Democrat John F. Kennedy said so well – “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.”

Read this as a warning to all who think they will rob American’s of their individual freedoms and liberties. Don’t misinterpret peaceful patience for cowardice or any form of consent. When the people have had enough, they will put down this evil and make an example of those who have forced this fight upon them.

The people have nothing to fear…. But politicians, lawyers and media minions sure do. They had better come to their senses before it’s too late.

The Constitutional Representative Republic will be defended. Any American blood that is shed in defense of the Republic will be on the hands of those who have forced this war upon the people.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; War on Terror
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Obama is going to push this nation to a tipping point where true patriots will begin to use civil diobedience to push back. If he thinks that true patriots will roll over and take his Marxist/Facist agenda, he will be surprised. Even his Chicago thugs have no chance against well-armed rednecks. I also believe that our military will not obey illegal, un-Constitutional orders to fire upon their own citizens, so he will have to call in UN troops. They haven’t seen what rednecks are capable of, either. We are Patriots. We will not lie down and allow the Government to roll over us.

Perhaps Obobo has no intention of leaving office as he’ll just write an Executive Order (which violates Article 1, Section 1)which over rides the 22nd Amendment. As pointed out in the article, he’s willingly violated every provision of the Constitution already at least once.

1 posted on 02/08/2013 4:50:31 AM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

If anything it should be called Revolutionary War II not Civil War!An inside military takeover would solve a lot of messy problems.


2 posted on 02/08/2013 4:53:48 AM PST by Renegade
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To: IbJensen

I have been saying this for a while.
baraq and his fellow travellers are setting the table for either a terrorist attack or a financial crisis to have a crisis to take advantage of.
They want the chaos so that they can step in and restore order, their version of order. It matters not what threats our country face from outside, his mission is to destroy all internal political enemies.
baraq is a heartless and soulless creep who will do anything. He has shown that he has utter disregard for the rule of law and now that he has a second term and doesn’t have to face the voters again, he is free to carry out his plans.

That is what has become of the formerly democrat party and the formerly free press.


3 posted on 02/08/2013 4:56:02 AM PST by Texas resident (I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on FR)
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To: IbJensen

No I don’t think Obama is planning for any civil war except if it should actually happen, he is boiling the frog.

What he has been instructed to do is to figuratively tenderize the nation into Sharia compliance. Its all about getting America under Islamic control. Because that is the ultimate goal.


4 posted on 02/08/2013 5:00:24 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: IbJensen

Just to let you know my tin foil hat is on good and tight:

I believe the most likely thing that happened last november is that the election was, in fact, stolen, with the acquiescence of the R’s. The reason? They knew, as well as those of us here did, that the Obama base would burn the cities if Obama lost, followed by a response by the “clingers” with their guns getting involved.

It would have started it.

That’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it.

Part of this is based on the simple weirdness of the whole thing. I’ve been voting since 1972 and I’ve never, EVER, seen such shock at an outcome as I saw with this one. But that is only part of it.


5 posted on 02/08/2013 5:01:15 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Texas resident

Well said.


6 posted on 02/08/2013 5:05:51 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: IbJensen

He’s trying to create conditions to replicate 1917 Russia and the communist takeover there, a “dictatorship of the proletariat.”


7 posted on 02/08/2013 5:08:39 AM PST by izzatzo
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To: IbJensen

communist tactic. Cause civil unrest, destabilizing the civil order, then step in during the confusion and establish a communist regime.


8 posted on 02/08/2013 5:10:43 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Renegade

“It will be ALL Americans, including their military, against the Marxist anti-Americans destroying America, which means politicians, their lawyers and their leftist minions in the press. I wouldn’t want to be them when they finally succeed in pushing the nation to internal war.”

I can live with that, our “ruling class” politicians, MSM, etal need to be held accountable, need to be put down bigtime.


9 posted on 02/08/2013 5:15:36 AM PST by izzatzo
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To: Texas resident

There seems to be a particularly strong push for secession of at least part of the territory once known as “the United States of America”. John Edwards said it out loud a few years ago, “There are two Americas”.

And they are pretty well defined. Look at the electoral map of the last election, and see how the “red” Congressional districts and counties divide up as compared to the “blue” districts and cities. This makes an excellent blueprint for what could be an amicible division.

But such a simple divorce probably could not be concluded. For now, the Imperial Washington regime has control of the money supply, the national military units, and most of the air traffic. The various state governments still have nominal control of the state militias (National Guard) and their own state police forces, plus what is in most instances the majority support from within their own states.

Plus, the localities would be well able to raise their own militias, with volunteer “minutemen” ready to take up arms and defend vast tracts of territory from the Federal incursion. I am sure the Posse Comitatus act of 1878 is still in effect, at least in a technical sense, and could potentially be invoked to prevent the assault on American citizens by the Federal military elements.

But considering how the Current Regime is perfectly happy to ignore or break any laws it does not like, or selectively take advantage of, this constraint would not be effective.

So it comes down to a rifle behind every blade of grass, a cannon behind every tree.

A wide swath of Americans LIKE their “cowboy heritage”.


10 posted on 02/08/2013 5:20:21 AM PST by alloysteel (If conspiracy does not exist everywhere, it exists nowhere.)
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To: IbJensen

Sergeantdave’s completely simplistic four steps to a civil war.

1. We divide ourselves.

2. We insult each other.

3. We stage armed excursions against each other.

4. The war starts.

Next week, I’ll publish the four steps to cleaning the kitty litter box and how it can be applied to laying DC under a crushing seige.


11 posted on 02/08/2013 5:27:07 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: IbJensen

As they discussed the killing of U.S. citizens by drone attacks, some retired colonel on Fox & Friends this morning made it quite clear that any U.S. citizen who attacked “the United States” is fair game to be killed by the government.
Those who take up arms against the government should fully expect that.

The East German model for resistance is preferable. Mass refusal to go to work: no trucks to bring food and fuel to cities, no utilities, no hospitals open etc. etc. No government can survive a mass strike by millions of its suppliers of goods and services.


12 posted on 02/08/2013 5:30:39 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: IbJensen

“Is Obama Pushing for a Civil War?”

Is that a rhetorical question?


13 posted on 02/08/2013 5:31:59 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: IbJensen

I agree they’re setting up for a fight, too, especially when Obama along with the likes of Ayers have considered the deaths of “millions” to attain their communist goals.


14 posted on 02/08/2013 5:33:34 AM PST by Thorliveshere (Tais deau sá taghdedaul!)
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To: Renegade

Oh, I’d take it further and call it Revoutionary War III.
I - 1776 - win
II - 1863 - loss
III - 201X - tie breaker


15 posted on 02/08/2013 5:35:08 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SMARTY

He and his fellow travelers want an excuse to use the power of the State to kill “dissenters”.


16 posted on 02/08/2013 5:36:00 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Renegade

Not a civil war, there is no defined division of states or territory. This is more of a 2nd revolution situation and I believe that we are moving toward a 1776 moment.

FUBO & FAD


17 posted on 02/08/2013 5:39:29 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Eye of Unk

Read the rest of these replies. Consensus, Obama is a Communist. What he preaches is straight out of Karl Marx. He sympathizes with Muslims and takes their side in many, although not all, disputes. That’s not the same thing as being a Muslim and embracing Sharia. Mark Levin calls him a Statist. He is for the federal leviathan getting control of every aspect of your life, with him and his Marxist buds like Axelrod and Jarrett manipulating our puppet strings.


18 posted on 02/08/2013 5:40:43 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: IbJensen

I think he wants us to fear opposing his will, therefore we must.


19 posted on 02/08/2013 5:47:46 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: IbJensen

As Obama’s second term winds down we will seem a movement led by the media to rid the Constitution of the “silly” ideas that Barack should not have a third term.

Wait and see.


20 posted on 02/08/2013 5:47:55 AM PST by kjo (+)
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To: IbJensen

Next he will try to get white people to sit at the back of the bus!


21 posted on 02/08/2013 5:50:18 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: IbJensen

Yes and we can’t win by playing his game and engaging him.

I’ve come to realize that conservatives could never form a cohesive resistance. Too many self declared generals demanding respect for themselves while holding an antagonistic attitude toward those in positions of authority now.


22 posted on 02/08/2013 5:50:20 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: I want the USA back

Glenn Beck was telling everyone this 3 years ago:
Top down
Bottom up
Inside out
OWS was suppose to be the bottom up but it failed. So now the Marxist are trying to agitate the American people against gun owners. Gun owners will be the bad guys that Obama & the Government must save the country from. So while the Newtown children’s choir is sing in the back ground, black clad Homeland Security Storm Troopers will be breaking down doors to enforce the new gun laws.


23 posted on 02/08/2013 5:51:29 AM PST by MCF
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To: kjo

I agree, but It would be extremely hard to change. So I doubt it will come of anything.


24 posted on 02/08/2013 5:54:08 AM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" / @rjustice21)
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To: Eye of Unk
If 0bama is not planning something, then WHY is Homeland Security buying huge stockpiles of ammo?

According to infowars.com "The Department of Homeland Security is set to purchase a further 21.6 million rounds of ammunition to add to the 1.6 billion bullets it has already obtained over the course of the last 10 months alone, figures which have stoked concerns that the federal agency is preparing for civil unrest." I don't know the reliability of this report, but given the behavior of the 0bama regime, I certainly have no reason to doubt it.

I just emailed my Tom Price to ask, not that I expect a real answer, and certainly no action.

25 posted on 02/08/2013 6:01:12 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: MCF
Gun owners will be the bad guys that Obama & the Government must save the country from.

All the killers have been democrats.
The Blame-Righty Mob Falls Silent (Michelle Malkin)
The killer cop they're now looking for wrote all kinds of praise for left wing personalities in his manifesto. He literally worships the left wing, and believes everything they told him. They created him.

26 posted on 02/08/2013 6:02:30 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: cuban leaf

Christ. It wasn’t stolen. Stolen implies that the RINOs wanted to win.


27 posted on 02/08/2013 6:05:17 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: txrefugee
...some retired colonel on Fox & Friends this morning made it quite clear that any U.S. citizen who attacked “the United States” is fair game to be killed by the government.

Does that include the U.S. citizens in the uniforms, flying the attack helicopters and driving the tanks?

Kinda raises the question, who is the US? The civilians or the government?

28 posted on 02/08/2013 6:06:07 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

That’s what I was saying all along. The republicans didn’t appear to have any intent of winning. Individual candidates wanted to win but the party as a whole was pretty apathetic.

I don’t doubt that there was fraud but it wasn’t required for democrats to win.


29 posted on 02/08/2013 6:08:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: MrB

TieBreaker!!! Classic!!!


30 posted on 02/08/2013 6:14:45 AM PST by Former MSM Viewer
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To: IbJensen

Yes. Obama is arming Homeland security to be the internal policed force to suppress a revolution. It is an open question which side the national guard, police forces and military join.

Weatherman Bill Ayers predicted 20 million people would have to be killed during a communist coup.


31 posted on 02/08/2013 6:17:23 AM PST by y6162
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To: IbJensen
Is Obama Pushing for a Civil War?

..he's going to get it shortly I'm afraid--all it will take is the right event to serve as a spark...

32 posted on 02/08/2013 6:18:30 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
"The Department of Homeland Security is set to purchase a further 21.6 million rounds of ammunition to add to the 1.6 billion bullets it has already obtained over the course of the last 10 months alone, figures which have stoked concerns that the federal agency is preparing for civil unrest."

Why would the government be buying 30-years worth of small arms ammo? Who are they planning on using those bullets on?

A government of the people, by the people, and for the people? It appears the people are no longer important to the Washington elites.
Because the Republicans are pretending it's not happening, they must be in on it - what ever "it" is.

33 posted on 02/08/2013 6:20:31 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: WalterSkinner

He’s gone over the edge, drunk with power and feeling invincible. He’s been given 4 more years and he can run wild, Who is going to stop him? They lie cheat, deny culpability and get away with all of it. The Republicans have no guts to fight these evil bastards so, relax, people get the kind of government they deserve. They want him, they got him.


34 posted on 02/08/2013 6:22:31 AM PST by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: IbJensen

One thing that should be pointed out is that not one single Republican voted for it. The Dems had enough to pass it on their own, and they did, with Nancy Pelosi spurring them to completely abandon earlier attempts to work out a more moderate plan and instead to do whatever Obama wanted.

I agree that the Republicans probably didn’t fight as effectively as they might have, but I think at that point, nobody had yet been able to make that mental leap to realizing how completely lawless and unconstrained by either law or custom this Administration is. One of the reasons we’re seeing a bit more agressive behavior, even from unlikely sources, is that we are finally all acknowledging the unthinkable truth, which is that we have a dictator in office who has no respect for our laws and our procedures.


35 posted on 02/08/2013 6:26:00 AM PST by livius
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To: alloysteel
Let's do the math. Ok let's assume the following: The entire Federal standing Army is in the CONUS(it is not, currently it is deployed willy nilly all over the globe)
36 posted on 02/08/2013 6:26:31 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: IbJensen

“These things gotta happen every five years or so, ten years. Helps to get rid of the bad blood” (quote from the Godfather)

In this case the time frame would be in decades.


37 posted on 02/08/2013 6:26:37 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: IbJensen

I’ve heard more than one liberal proclaim that Obama would help them establish a “bloody revolution”, and these weren’t Brits saying it.


38 posted on 02/08/2013 6:27:18 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: IbJensen

Yes, he is because he can take more control.


39 posted on 02/08/2013 6:28:52 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: IbJensen

> I also believe that our military will not obey illegal, un-Constitutional orders to fire upon their own citizens, so he will have to call in UN troops. They haven’t seen what rednecks are capable of, either. We are Patriots. We will not lie down and allow the Government to roll over us.

I have spoken to many military personnel lately. It is clear to me they do not like or approve of the Kenyan Muslim Traitor in the WH who has sold them out by putting their men in harms way for political gain and arming our enemies. He will be in for a big surprise if he orders them to fire on innocent civilians. They just may see a Trident missile aimed at their own if they keep violating the Constitution and committing treasonous acts against The People...


40 posted on 02/08/2013 6:30:05 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: concerned about politics

Remember when you entered the U.S. Armed Forces or applied for federal employment? There was one question on those forms: have you ever advocated the overthrow of the U.S. Government by force? Not so far-fetched now, is it?


41 posted on 02/08/2013 6:31:33 AM PST by Ax
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To: central_va

Their best weapon is the IRS and the stupid Cloud technology where they can just seize any financial account they want by a key stroke.


42 posted on 02/08/2013 6:31:33 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: CodeToad

If you read “You can still trust the communists to be communists”,

you’ll see that the communist revolution REQUIRES extreme violence in order for the takeover to be effective. They have to make sure the populace knows they will be brutally put down if they resist the utopia.


43 posted on 02/08/2013 6:32:03 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: IbJensen

Why do you suppose BO is making public, his policy of being able to target and kill Americans who he sees as a threat.

It’s NOT about Drones and Islamists, dear!


44 posted on 02/08/2013 6:34:21 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Ax

The wording of that would not include advocating secession,
because that isn’t “overthrowing”, but separating from, the US Government.


45 posted on 02/08/2013 6:34:38 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: IbJensen

bkmrk


46 posted on 02/08/2013 6:35:15 AM PST by xvq2er
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To: MrB

Great way to gain credibility.....

Call the Civil War a loss.....

Gee, why do liberals keep labeling conservatives “racist”?


47 posted on 02/08/2013 6:37:11 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Renegade

“If anything it should be called Revolutionary War II not Civil War!An inside military takeover would solve a lot of messy problems.”

Perhaps that’s why so many military leaders are being replaced with political hacks?


48 posted on 02/08/2013 6:38:10 AM PST by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: izzatzo
I can live with that, our “ruling class” politicians, MSM, etal need to be held accountable, need to be put down bigtime. (My emphasis)

I have a different perspective which calls not for putting down but elevating "our ruling class politicians, MSM, etal", elevating them to the tops of lamp posts, telephone poles and sturdy tree branches lining our streets and in our parks..............

49 posted on 02/08/2013 6:39:38 AM PST by varon (USA Nationalist)
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To: MrB

I don’t think secession is the answer. That would only fragmentize the country even more than it is now. We need to clean house, this time without the weasels stealing elections.


50 posted on 02/08/2013 6:41:40 AM PST by Ax
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