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'Betrayed': Male rape victims slam Oscar-nominated filmmakers over focus on women
NBC News ^ | Bill Briggs

Posted on 02/08/2013 7:28:25 AM PST by ConservativeStatement

Two male rape survivors who appear in "The Invisible War," an Oscar-nominated documentary about military sexual assaults, are criticizing the movie's brief focus on male victims as an ironic snub — and, in a fiery diatribe, one of the film's characters says the director "should be ashamed and embarrassed."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: gender; military; rape

1 posted on 02/08/2013 7:28:40 AM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

I’m not giving NBC the hit, but I’m guessing this is male-o-male rape? Homo-rape?


2 posted on 02/08/2013 7:33:13 AM PST by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

We can’t make males a victim group, now, can we?


3 posted on 02/08/2013 7:33:21 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: subterfuge

This is one paragraph:

Navy veteran Brian Lewis — who was raped by a male, senior non-commissioned officer in 2000 and then discharged from the Navy shortly after reporting the attack — said he and Matthews are disturbed that the film’s fleeting attention on male victims, both on screen and in promotional tactics, symbolizes the way male sex-assault survivors have been marginalized by society and by some lawmakers investigating the issue of rapes within the armed forces. Lewis has a 10-second soundbite in the documentary.


4 posted on 02/08/2013 7:34:39 AM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama is the "Disco Duck" president. A no-substance novelty that reached number one.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

“Navy veteran Brian Lewis — who was raped by a male”

I guess you have to spend time in prison to understand how this happens.


5 posted on 02/08/2013 7:37:25 AM PST by edcoil (Manage your own lawsuit: www.jurisdictionary.com?refercode=KK0012)
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To: ConservativeStatement

The article says 9000 women are raped, but 10,000 men are raped. The media DO NOT want to publicize the current level of homosexual rape in the military.


6 posted on 02/08/2013 7:38:40 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Seems men would be more able to fight back against rape than most women. How do these rapes happen?


7 posted on 02/08/2013 8:12:25 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: SauronOfMordor

Whatever happened to Don’t Ask Don’t Tell ?


8 posted on 02/08/2013 8:33:55 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Bingo.

It’s always been a problem. Read extensively on the navy during WWII.


9 posted on 02/08/2013 8:42:08 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

That’s right...the genteel, harmless, bunny-rabbit like, perpetually oppressed and always victimized homosexual male would never do something like rape another man. For another example of something the press never reports, research the statistics on pedophiles: those who target their own sex verses those who target the opposite sex.


10 posted on 02/08/2013 8:43:43 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Here’s a link to the website for the guys making the movie about male-on-male sexual assault in the military.

http://www.justicedeniedmovie.com/

They said that a lot of the times it’s a gang-rape situation and sometimes the victim is actually drugged.

I gave them a donation. This issue needs to be brought into the light.


11 posted on 02/08/2013 8:57:56 AM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: SauronOfMordor

Here’s the trailer for the movie “Justice Denied” about male-on-male sexual assault.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A13hLbasos


12 posted on 02/08/2013 9:00:24 AM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

“Prison rape” is a punchline. Women find it particularly tittersome.


13 posted on 02/08/2013 9:01:54 AM PST by Oratam
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To: Marie

Here’s the second trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWyTumsdqzs


14 posted on 02/08/2013 9:05:21 AM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: edcoil

Prison, yes, but really anywhere men live in isolation together. Boarding school, for instance, or I imagine army barracks, subs, etc. It’s not something that occurs to people immediately, but reference “The Shawshank Redemption,” or something similar, and it becomes obvious.


15 posted on 02/08/2013 9:12:04 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: AD from SpringBay

People have automatic responses for that. They’ll say disregarding the sex of the child most pedophiles are heterosexual. Meaning they live as heteros, married or otherwise presenting to the world preference for women. But why would you ignore the sex of the child? How can someone who has sex with teenage boys, for instance, be considered straight? Wouldn’t they be bisexual at least?

They’ll answer rape is about power, not sex. Which is idiotic. You try robbing a bank while maintaining an erection. Sex is about sexual pleasure. If it doesn’t matter who you rape, that means your a sadistic and pansexual. But if you rape boys, might you not be sexually attracted to males? Certainly you’re not merely acting out violence with your gwnitals instead of a knife, or whatever. You are getting something out of it.


16 posted on 02/08/2013 9:18:10 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: ilovesarah2012
As you seem to not be too much on the bright side regarding violence of any sort, let me explain a few things to you.

There are things called weapons. Bayonets, K-Bar knives. Wire connected to two sticks to make a garrot. The use of these things on someone without them generally renders their fighting back ineffectual and possibly fatal.

Two people outnumbering one person generally wins - other things being equal.

Someone who is on their way back to the barracks after imbibing adult beverages at the club isn't going to fare well against someone sober.

I don't know where you got the idea that being male makes one invincible, but it is not a concept connected in any way to reality.

One more reality, (from someone who went in during the Iranian Crisis and served til after the first Gulf War) : rape has always been a severe risk for prisoners captured in Islamic conflicts regardless of sex.

17 posted on 02/08/2013 9:21:31 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

More apt, yes, and more successful one on one. But all it takes is ganging up on them. Not even trained killers can necessarily fight off three assailants, especially if they’re also trained killers. Or they can be coerced into sex with something held over their heads.


18 posted on 02/08/2013 9:21:59 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

This is difficult for me to even comprehend, because as an Army MP in the 1980s I never heard of such things happening, and MPs knew all the dirt every place I was stationed. I know the Army covers up a lot of wrongdoing, and I myself was ordered to stand down and not apprehend a commissioned officer or senior NCO on more than one occasion, but everybody knew about those kinds of incidents. Anything even remotely suggestive of homosexuality back then would make a soldier persona non grata and probably investigated and thrown out of the service.

I just can’t imagine any of the NCOs or Officers that I served under protecting a degenerate rapist. And if the chain of command didn’t address an issue, it usually got settled with “NCO Justice” or peer-administered “non-judicial punishment”. I knew of barracks thieves and adulterers who had mysterious “training accidents”, and of course there were always stories about soldiers settling scores in the field with an e-tool across the head.

I guess my point is, in the military everybody knows what’s going on, and in my era soldiers tended to stick up for each other and take care of things even when the Army didn’t. The only thing more disgusting to me than the idea that the ranks are full of degenerate sexual predators is that nobody is speaking out, much less doing anything this reprehensible behavior.


19 posted on 02/08/2013 10:09:03 AM PST by g.i.joe
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To: subterfuge

Can’t be male-on-male rape - homos don’t do that. The men of our military are safe from such threats...

Just don’t pick up the soap in the shower...


20 posted on 02/08/2013 10:16:48 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Besides being raped by somebody stronger or in a gang, in the military those who outrank you (like in the incident earlier this thread) have a lot more real power than civilian bosses do. Including the ability to get you killed.


21 posted on 02/08/2013 12:38:25 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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To: MrEdd

Thank you for your response, but insults aren’t necessary. I asked a question. Thanks for answering.


22 posted on 02/08/2013 1:11:24 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ConservativeStatement

“Bring out the gimp.”

“Gimp’s sleeping.”

“Well, I guess you’re going to have to wake him up then.”


23 posted on 02/08/2013 1:44:02 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: MrEdd
It’s always been a problem. Read extensively on the navy during WWII.

What I've read, is that the perp didn't make roll call—at sea!

24 posted on 02/08/2013 4:11:02 PM PST by Does so (Progressives Don't Know the Meaning of INFRINGED...)
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To: Does so

I can comprehend that there are sickos in any crowd, and that there are predators that take advantage of subordinates or target those that they perceive as weaker, but these reports of male gang rapes are just beyond the pale. I just can’t wrap my mind around a group of soldiers saying “What do you want to do tonight?” and the answer being “Let’s rape some guy”.


25 posted on 02/09/2013 5:25:58 PM PST by g.i.joe
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