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Your comprehensive answer to every Sandy Hook conspiracy theory
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Posted on 02/08/2013 8:40:23 AM PST by mnehring

While it’s often best not to engage with conspiracy theorists on their own turf, as you can probably never convince them, it’s worth setting the record straight on all the myths and phony evidence surrounding the Sandy Hook massacre.

We’ve rounded up every major piece of evidence we could find that leads theorists to say the “official narrative” of events “doesn’t add up” and provided the facts that show why these questions can be easily explained. We’ve ignored the empty accusations with no evidence to support them (it was the Jews!) and focused only on the theories that try to present actual empirical or circumstantial evidence.

Let us know if we missed any and we’ll add to it as more myths emerge. In no particular order, here is your comprehensive guide to disproving the Sandy Hook Truthers:

Why aren’t the adults sadder?  “They aren’t behaving the way human beings would act,” as conspiracy theorist Jay Weidner told fellow conspiracy theorist Jeff Rense on his radio show. Theorists have zeroed in on Robbie Parker, who they say wasn’t grieving hard enough for his slain 6-year-old daughter, Emilie. In one widely circulated clip, Parker laughs before stepping up to the microphone, and apparently someone says “read from the card” (as in cue card) before Parker breathes heavily in anticipation of beginning a press conference. “This is what actors do to get into character,” one popular YouTube video states. Rense and Weidner also take issue with the mourning of the school nurse, the family of slain teacher Victoria Soto, and others. “ALL ACTORS??? NO TEARS,” wonders the author of SandyHookHoax.com on a page featuring videos with numerous interviews from the shooting.

Answer:


(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; conspiracytheory; guncontrol; newtown; sandyhook; secondamendment
Very long article that a lot of people need to read whenever they jump on the latest Alex Jones kick.
1 posted on 02/08/2013 8:40:30 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring
Well, of course.

Any conspiracy this big just HAS to have a Salon article debunking it - it's all part of the plan, dontcha see?

2 posted on 02/08/2013 8:45:03 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: mnehring
I'd agree if this was Alex Jones ... but it isn't
3 posted on 02/08/2013 8:48:30 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: mnehring
This article is useful, and there is certainly no conspiracy.

At the same time, the investigative agencies are giving the public they theoretically serve a very negligible amount of data.

If we're going to dramatically alter federal law on matters that touch constitutional issues, there should probably be an exhaustive public report of their findings.

4 posted on 02/08/2013 8:49:01 AM PST by wideawake
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To: mnehring

These conspiracy theories serve to show how deeply divided we are by showing our need to blame “ them”. They also showcase some individuals need for attention / recondition, not to mention the money Alex Jones and others make from their delusions.


5 posted on 02/08/2013 8:49:53 AM PST by JimSEA ( “what difference does it make?”)
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To: knarf

No it is Max Malone (whoever the hell that is) who seems to push these kinds of videos and likes to add big, scary voice overs to CNN broadcasts to influence what you are thinking.

As I said on the other thread, don’t confuse media incompetence for conspiracy.


6 posted on 02/08/2013 8:51:26 AM PST by mnehring
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To: JimSEA

It also shows how mistrusted and reviled the main stream media is, the media could tell us the sky is blue and most people wouldn’t believe them... and probably for good reason as they know the media has lied to them many many times...


7 posted on 02/08/2013 9:01:54 AM PST by GraceG
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To: JimSEA

They also really help internet forums.


8 posted on 02/08/2013 9:02:27 AM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: mnehring

Consider the source. I don’t bother with anything from Salon, even when they might be right.


9 posted on 02/08/2013 9:02:49 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

They simply link and compile other sources, such as Scientific American.


10 posted on 02/08/2013 9:06:06 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

I frankly don’t care where it comes from if it’s the TRUTH. It’s unsettling to me how easily swayed some folks are- on the left AND the right. Knee-jerk reactions are self-congratulatory and satisfying temporarily- but they make for weak minds and addled brains.

I don’t KNOW the facts about Sandy Hook- but I know a little bit about human nature. A conspiracy of this nature, size and scope would not be easily carried out- I’d wager it’d be damned near impossible. SOMEONE(s) is always going to talk- these are regular folks in a regular small town- the idea of a grand conspiracy to further the gun-control agenda is nuts. We know there are some who would be giddy to perpetrate such a thing- but it is NOT practical. What we normally discover, if we accept a conspiracy theory is there are just as many unanswered questions on the OTHER side.

If I’m searching for a conspiracy- nothing is easier to find. Any inconsistency will be used as more reasons why it is so.


11 posted on 02/08/2013 9:07:56 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Is this conspiratorial or nutjob ?

Watch the last few minutes ... the claim is Sandy Hook is not an operational school at the time.

Which would explain the lack of children and parents in any scenes I've ever seen (no pun intended)

12 posted on 02/08/2013 9:12:41 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: mnehring
I don't particularly trust our government no matter who is in charge - Democrat, Republican, Obama, Reagan, etc.

There are plenty of legit conspiracies out there and, I'm quite positive, all kinds of things our government does and gets involved in that would make our heads spin.

That said, people who think Sandy Hook was staged, that it was carried out in cooperation with the government so that they could seize guns, that it didn't really happen, etc seriously need their heads checked.

And there are PLENTY of them on FR.

13 posted on 02/08/2013 9:16:10 AM PST by gdani
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To: SE Mom
" .. SOMEONE(s) is always going to talk .. "

Unless the civilian army zero talked about is not the suspected black youth gang types we automatically conjure up in our white minds and imaginations.

Don't forget, a whole lot of seemingly mature and educated white folks voted him in agaian.

Unless THAT'S a conspiracy also ...

14 posted on 02/08/2013 9:18:31 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: gdani
"And there are PLENTY of them on FR."

(raising my hand in class ...)

I may be one of them ... but I prefer to look more mathanatically at the scene and determine the numbers don't add up.

We take pride (God forgive us) in our minds and what we think is intellect and reasoning ... and every ONE of us has benefitted and been grateful for FRepers asnd their knowledge and insight, and it is a negation of that intelligence to tell people we respect(ED) ... you're nuts.

15 posted on 02/08/2013 9:24:07 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: SE Mom

You are right, SE Mom. This shooting really did happen.

I think people on the right are legitimately frightened from all the things obama has done to this country. Maybe it has caused some to lose their center of gravity, to know when something is a lie and when it is not. Sandy Hook is the catalyst behind the latest gun grab attempt. It was so horrific, the left is using it as an excuse to make a horrific attempt to disarm most of us. Some may think if we could just prove this was a lie, the crazy left would back off. They will NEVER back off. They need to be confronted on this issue in spite of and BECAUSE how horrific it was.

Trying to prove this was a hoax is wasting effort at beating the idiot gun grabbers back. But people are frightened. Sometimes it’s easier to believe in a conspiracy than to realize our country is going (has gone?) down the tubes.


16 posted on 02/08/2013 9:24:45 AM PST by Girlene
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To: mnehring

And the gov’t would never get away from (secretly) supplying Mexican drug cartels with ‘scary’ guns so the current administration could use the deaths and blood-shed to make a case about 2nd Amendment Rights of U.S. Citizens??

Magic bullet, Tuskegee (AL), etc. I don’t put anything over on the gov’t that it can (try) to get away with without blackening its own eye(s). Until the light of Truth was shown on these few instances, they too were of the paranoia/conspiracy theory bend.


17 posted on 02/08/2013 9:30:53 AM PST by i_robot73
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To: i_robot73
I'm thinking that perhaps its time to stop bashing all the law abiding citizens because of the criminal action of a few gun owners.

For example, how about that mentally-challenged unionized police officer in San Diego? A case should be made that all police should be disarmed because, clearly, even ONE maverick is quite enough.

Or mandate that ALL unionized LEOs be implanted with an electronic transponder so everyone knows the location of every police officer. Yeah, yeah I know but if all of these ULEOs are that honest, why would they object to tracking of their location? Clearly, we'd be able to track this renegade uLEO and ALL of society would be better off.

18 posted on 02/08/2013 9:48:53 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: mnehring

The reason for conspiracy is the result of our Government,


19 posted on 02/08/2013 10:08:17 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: Girlene

One thing for sure.... through experience, we all should recognize that when the MSM and the FEDS get involved in something that is a local incident, the TRUTH is the first casualty.


20 posted on 02/08/2013 10:25:04 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (What difference does it make (if they eat cake)?)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Concur. No Citizen has any more, nor less, Rights than another; excluding those incarcerated. I should preface the latter, that when your debt is repaid, Rights are restored, there is no picking/choosing for Free Men.


21 posted on 02/08/2013 10:56:53 AM PST by i_robot73
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To: mnehring
I have a very simple rule of thumb: Jon Corzine walks free. Ergo, I trust nothing with respect to the fed.gov. Actually, make that two: Tim Geithner walks free. Alas, make that three: Eric Holder walks free.

Shee!t, now that you got me started, there are so many other rules of thumb that necessitate a complete suspension of disbelief to accept any representations from a government that commits treason against the American people on a 24/7 basis.

22 posted on 02/08/2013 11:06:36 AM PST by semantic
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To: knarf
Watch the last few minutes ... the claim is Sandy Hook is not an operational school at the time.

Because there are no cars parked in the Sandy Hook parking lot, but there are cars parked in the Newtown Middle School lot (she keeps saying the other school is St. Rosa, but if you look at the map, it's actually Newtown Middle School)? That's why she thinks it wasn't an operational school? That may be the most idiotic thing I've ever seen.

23 posted on 02/08/2013 11:09:02 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: semantic

My rule of thumb is similar. Any government that has people like Corzine in it (or Barney Frank, or Obama, or Kerry, etc) isn’t competent enough to conspire to order a pizza without screwing it up.


24 posted on 02/08/2013 11:41:15 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Girlene

Agreed. I KNOW the left is full of people who WOULD not balk at trying something like this- I also know it is unlikely in the extreme it could be accomplished.

Undoubtedly it’s VERY hard work trying to know what this administration is up to- and as you point out- so much of what they’ve done IS outrageous that nothing much would surprise us..


25 posted on 02/08/2013 11:46:11 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: knarf
Is this conspiratorial or nutjob ?

Both --

26 posted on 02/08/2013 12:05:37 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: mnehring

Salon has posted more than its share of conspiracy stories and feminist-like false allegations against conservatives. The majority of Americans are rightly skeptical because of the many falsehoods published and broadcast by the biggest media companies about those crimes. And remember that the mass murders were allegedly committed by two nerds from rich, respected families—nerds with high grade averages, said by their former friends and other acquaintances to be harmless.


27 posted on 02/08/2013 12:49:43 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: mnehring
Anyway, America is much more interested in the news about the more relevant Dorner murder spree now, while the anecdotes about the other two distant, local tragedies of yesteryear have faded into the background.

Women shot during LAPD ex-cop manhunt had no warning, lawyer says
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2986636/posts

LAPD Spree Killer's Supposed Full Manifesto Shows Support For Gun Control And President Obama
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2986353/posts


28 posted on 02/08/2013 1:01:53 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: knarf

Parents leading a child from 828 to 8:36 marks.

At the tail end when they are showing a satellite view of the school grounds it’s obvious that the season is different... look at the baseball diamond. It’s kind of green for December.


29 posted on 02/08/2013 2:08:22 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: knarf

But you aren’t looking mathematically at the scene. You are refusing to see what is right in front of your eyes because it doesn’t fit with what you want to believe.

The max malone video you are so fond of is typical hoax fodder with shrouded sources so you can’t compare the original voice over to their version of the context.

There are children in the video and the satellite view is a bogus representation.


30 posted on 02/08/2013 2:17:48 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: mnehring

Salon.com is about as critical to the Sandy Hook discussion as Perezhilton.com or CNN.com


31 posted on 02/08/2013 5:23:20 PM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: mnehring
Some of this was good and helpful for me.

But this -- "...before Parker breathes heavily in anticipation of beginning a press conference."

Nope sorry. That was intentional on his part, for whatever reason, the guy was making himself ready to do a press conference. Lots more than breathing heavily.

32 posted on 02/09/2013 3:32:28 PM PST by MarMema
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