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The Turret Gunner Was a She
Townhall.com ^ | February 8, 2013 | Paul Greenberg

Posted on 02/08/2013 9:37:49 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Red Steel

Fitness is only one small factor. :(


61 posted on 02/08/2013 1:51:26 PM PST by bannie ("The gov't that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.")
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To: Red Steel
They can with practice and the build up of their strength. I would come pretty fast in dedicated training. You can't train a women to do this without metamorphosing their DNA.

Spent 3 years in the military and never had this dedicated training. I doubt if most guys in the military had this training either. The real point is we don't want the fairer sex being involved in this type of activity. I know many combat veterans and not one has told me a story of his hand-to-hand fights or carrying a 200+ guy out of the firefight.

62 posted on 02/08/2013 1:54:01 PM PST by Starstruck (All goverments become tyrannical. Individuals determine when they do.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

had stormed ashore at Omaha Beach or Iwo Jima, and newsreels showed them being blown apart
= = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Believe it was the landing at Pelileu that was held ‘secret’ till near the end or after the war before it was ‘officially’ acknowledged.
The casualty rate was enormous with the Marines losing almost 60% and the Army not faring much better...
The powers that be knew the American people would not have taken that news well.....


63 posted on 02/08/2013 2:28:52 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: USAF80

“Based on what this clown said most Air Force guys would feel like second class citizens as they are not “warriors”.”

Excellent point. Maybe his next step is to make all branches of service spend time in the Army infantry before moving on to their real assignments I mean, wouldn’t want to hurt their feelings.


64 posted on 02/08/2013 2:40:11 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Starstruck
The real point is we don't want the fairer sex being involved in this type of activity.

For good reason. The truth is they don't have the same ability as men do and this social experiment will lead to unnecessary defeat and death for us in the future.

I have the whole human history as an example while the idiot feminists, Obama, Panetta, and their parrot Dempsey are full of crap who have a hidden agenda.

65 posted on 02/08/2013 2:46:26 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Starstruck
I know many combat veterans and not one has told me a story of his hand-to-hand fights or carrying a 200+ guy out of the firefight.

Maybe you should read up on hand-to-hand combat when the Marines engaged the Vietnamese regulars at Khe Sanh, Vietnam or even recently in Fallujah, Iraq. I'd carry you away from danger. A 100 lb female is not going to do that.

66 posted on 02/08/2013 3:00:21 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Badger

He’s making up an excuse for when “Amanda” files discrimination charges for the general feeling her up.


67 posted on 02/08/2013 3:01:59 PM PST by Terry Mross (Who long before America is no more?)
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To: Red Steel
For good reason. The truth is they don't have the same ability as men do and this social experiment will lead to unnecessary defeat and death for us in the future.

Sorry but teaching my wife and daughter SHTF scenarios, I do not reach the same conclusions as you. Don't come around my household to learn the fallacy of your convictions.

68 posted on 02/08/2013 4:02:30 PM PST by Starstruck (All goverments become tyrannical. Individuals determine when they do.)
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To: CodeToad

I got separated from the Air Force 50 years ago. We are/ were all warriors. The minute that a recruit steps off that bus, he/she is unknowingly headed toward the sound of the gunfire. I knew guys who, once they finished basic, got assigned as the Wing Commander’s driver at an AFB in South Dakota, or a passenger agent at Travis, were still part of the brotherhood (and sisterhood) of arms. I knew guys from the Army, Navy and the Marine Corps who spent their entire enlistment in CONUS. That doesn’t make their service any less honorable.


69 posted on 02/08/2013 5:06:33 PM PST by Ax
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To: Starstruck
Good, you teach them all you want about SHTF scenarios, but females don't belong in offensive military combat fighting for the US.

Don't come around my household to learn the fallacy of your convictions

Never would think of it or would I care to.

70 posted on 02/08/2013 5:17:10 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Kaslin

“And I said, ‘Ah, OK.’ So female turret gunner protecting division commander.”

What the general should have concluded was that someone didn’t want him to survive! :-)


71 posted on 02/08/2013 5:26:16 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Future Snake Eater

This notion of placing womanintocombat roles is just so easy to refute. Many of you may have heard of a little dustup called World War II. At the peak of United States involvement in that war there were 16 ½ million personnel in uniform, many of them women. We also had over 400,000 personnel killed in the line of duty, against the toughest battlefield enemies this country has ever had to face, ones that were capable of and often did inflict shattering BATTLEFIELD defeats upon our sea, land and air forces. Despite this no one saw any need to place women into combat roles that had the responsibility to directly close with, engage, and destroy the enemy..

Today with a much smaller and almost hand picked elite Armed Forces, and a population base that is more than twice as large as that during World War II, there is even less need for it now than then.

This entire idiocy is being propelled by the demand for selfish feminists to qualify for chairmanship of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, nothing more and nothing less than that.

This has absolutely nothing to do with enhancing the ability of the Armed Forces to fight, rather it will weaken it if for no other reason than the logistics strain that it will place on the Armed Forces for separate housing and the like. The evidence of the disparity in physical suitabilities for combat MOS’s as reinforced by study after study is simply overwhelming. The effort that will be necessary to obtain a relative few qualified women will not result in anything remotely resembling any accepted model of effeciency, but since that is NOT the object any way, why worry about that? This is merely another sop to the perverted Cultural Marxist notion of fairness and equality and another step on the road of “fundamental transformation” of the vital institutions of this nation.


72 posted on 02/08/2013 7:09:00 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: Kaslin
Martin Dempsey, the Army general who's now chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

The leftist force is strong in this one. The kenyan marxist whistles and Dempsey jumps. He is either an enemy of the Republic and or the communist administration has some dirt on him.

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73 posted on 02/08/2013 9:44:38 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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