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I-Team: Debate Heats Up Over Sales at Gun Shows
8 News Now ^ | Feb 8, 2013 | Colleen McCarty

Posted on 02/08/2013 4:44:24 PM PST by EXCH54FE

LAS VEGAS -- Of all the gun legislation currently on the table, universal background checks seem the most likely to pass. The proposal would close the so-called gun show loophole by requiring background checks for all gun sales.

In southern Nevada, where gun shows are as frequent as sporting events, the proposal is driving discussion and sales.

There is wide debate about whether guns sold without background checks truly impact crime. Some research suggests that crooks are more likely to get guns from the streets than from a gun show. However, that doesn't mean weapons sold at gun shows don't end up at violent crime scenes. For example, the 2010 fatal shooting at the federal courthouse in Las Vegas.

The line gathers before dawn. Tens of thousands crowd into the Las Vegas Gun Show. Many are there to arm themselves in reaction to the President's gun law proposals.

"I think Obama is the best gun salesman in America," said show promoter Claude Hall.

The event hosts a mix of licensed firearms dealers and unlicensed private sellers like retired Air Force Lt. Col. Gary O'Neal who recently found out he has a serious medical diagnosis.

"I'm trying to get rid of all of these before I die so my wife doesn't have to," he said.

During his 74 years, O'Neal has amassed a personal collection of some three dozen rifles, pistols and semi-automatic military-style weapons.

(Excerpt) Read more at 8newsnow.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 02/08/2013 4:44:28 PM PST by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

Ask the reporter if she thinks permits should be required
to have children, or background checks for all yard sales.


2 posted on 02/08/2013 4:48:45 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Better yet, ask the reporter if she’d be okay with requiring background checks for reporters.


3 posted on 02/08/2013 4:51:24 PM PST by MeganC (Liberals fool people by walking upright.)
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To: tet68

Or background checks for abortions? Are they mentally competent to kill a child or not? Or permission slips from the father of child? Or parents if girls is under age?


4 posted on 02/08/2013 4:51:30 PM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: EXCH54FE

I’ve been telling the liberals I know that I support implementing the Universal Background check so long as Obama passes it first.


5 posted on 02/08/2013 4:52:37 PM PST by MeganC (Liberals fool people by walking upright.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Universal background checks is NOT what they are asking for, even if that is what they’re calling it.

Every proposal for “universal background checks” includes entering the purchased firearms into a FEDERAL DATABASE.

It is Universal Gun Registration, the first step to Universal Gun Confiscation.


6 posted on 02/08/2013 4:53:59 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: All

What this means is government control of commerce and
not just across state lines.
How much longer till you have to have a government pass
to buy a car, drive a car, sell a car?
Or buy and sell anything?


7 posted on 02/08/2013 4:56:11 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: EXCH54FE

I’d like to know where the Constitution grants the general government the authority to mandate background checks for/by private citizens.

The “regulation of commerce with Foreign Nations, and among the several States and with the Indian Tribes” clause has been grossly abused. I am none of the above. And no such power has been delegated to the general government (see Article I, Section 8, compairing Amendment 10).

It’s hard to sustain the fiction that we have a Consitutional government anymore. So, what are we going to do about it?


8 posted on 02/08/2013 4:59:32 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: EXCH54FE

After all the illogical proposals and “executive findings” and weeping and wailing and nobama’s “Gettysburg Address” in Newtown and editorials and letters to the editor and all the rest. After all that, turns out it was largely a smoke screen.

nobama and his goons really just want background checks on every gun sold. That’s all. Just that. Sounds simple, huh? Until you realize that 100% background checks leads to 100% registration which leads to a government database of who owns what. Not by this summer. Can’t raise the water temperature on the frog that fast. But shirley within a year or two.


9 posted on 02/08/2013 5:02:42 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: EXCH54FE

So let’s close the “gun show loophole”. You will have to go outside to conduct business if you are a private person selling to a private person. All other private sales remain legal, as they do not occur inside a gunshow.

How’s that. No more gun show loophole.


10 posted on 02/08/2013 5:30:13 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: EXCH54FE

what it really means is that you wouldn’t be able to sell a gun to your brother without the government knowing about it. thats the real intention.


11 posted on 02/08/2013 6:09:11 PM PST by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: jdub

Yup, they mean EVERY gun sale, even between private individuals.

That sucks, big time.


12 posted on 02/08/2013 6:59:49 PM PST by DNME (Without the Constitution, there is no legitimate U.S. government. Period.)
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To: upchuck
Until you realize that 100% background checks leads to 100% registration which leads to a government database of who owns what.

And at that point what exactly is the criteria for "passing" a background check?

And what, exactly, prevents future changes to that criteria?

And who, exactly, will determine the criteria?

You see, there is already far too much restriction and government intrusion on Second Amendment Rights. Current regulations are opening the door to a National Registration database. Current firearm laws should be reversed, NOT ENHANCED.

What many folks miss on situations such as this is we are in the MIDDLE of the disarming of America process, not merely looking at the beginning.

But no one is complaining about the current law because the "frogs" have adjusted to current temperature in the pot.

.p

13 posted on 02/08/2013 7:00:03 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: EXCH54FE
Some research suggests that crooks are more likely to get guns from the streets than from a gun show.

You don't, frickin' say!

14 posted on 02/08/2013 7:56:49 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Yo-Yo

See my tagline.


15 posted on 02/09/2013 8:32:37 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Tyranny -> Genocide)
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