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Ben Carson for President
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 02/08/2013 | Review and Outlook

Posted on 02/09/2013 9:37:14 AM PST by Katya

"Whether this weekend finds you blowing two feet of snow off the driveway or counting the hours until "Downton Abbey," make time to watch the video of Dr. Ben Carson speaking to the White House prayer breakfast this week.

Seated in view to his right are Senator Jeff Sessions and President Obama. One doesn't look happy. You know something's coming when Dr. Carson says, "It's not my intention to offend anyone. But it's hard not to. The PC police are out in force everywhere."

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


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Dr Carson covers Taxation and Health Care at the Prayer breakfast... He certainly made the left squirm.
1 posted on 02/09/2013 9:37:20 AM PST by Katya
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To: Katya

Do we have a new political Justin Beiber?


2 posted on 02/09/2013 9:40:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Katya

How dare that Uncle Tom, Oreo Cookie!


3 posted on 02/09/2013 9:44:05 AM PST by albie (`)
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To: Katya

Well, someone from the Odumbo circle is gonna get fired for this. How dare this peasant mock the Won?


4 posted on 02/09/2013 9:44:09 AM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m seriously hoping you were in no way comparing Dr Carson with the bieber... Dr Carson is probably retiring in the next year.... so it will be interesting to see what he does next.


5 posted on 02/09/2013 9:48:21 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Katya

Really like what Dr.Carson said about politically correct speech and posturing. Essentially it is phony and deceptive behavior. It is meant to mask the true thoughts and position of those who practice it. At best it is meant to protect the feelings of people in a diverse and complex culture. At worst it is patronizing and offensive. Essentially politically correct people lie to people they engage. If they actually believe their lies, they are delusional and of course dangerous. Bring back honest discourse.


6 posted on 02/09/2013 9:49:13 AM PST by allendale
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To: Katya

Actually my comment was directed at people like you who find a new superstar every couple of weeks and suggest that they be president based on one speech.

Next week he might turn around and suggest that we ban guns.


7 posted on 02/09/2013 9:55:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Katya

Did you see the video of this? Obama is there playing angry birds or something on his blackberry while Carson was speaking. Rude.


8 posted on 02/09/2013 9:56:26 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Katya
For an interesting and enlightening experiment, view the complete video full screen, increase the screen magnitude to 200% or more, then focus solely on the president's eyes, facial muscles and body language throughout.
9 posted on 02/09/2013 10:00:29 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: cripplecreek

I’m pretty sure the Ben Carson for President article title... was not very serious in the first place lol It was highlighting the fact that if we elected a BRAIN surgeon, he seemingly understands the economy much better than this group of dolts.


10 posted on 02/09/2013 10:00:37 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: mnehring

Here’s the video for anyone interested...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PFb6NU1giRA


11 posted on 02/09/2013 10:02:47 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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12 posted on 02/09/2013 10:10:59 AM PST by RedMDer (Support Free Republic)
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To: mnehring

It must have been very uncomfortable, Dr Carson is living proof of everything Obama does not stand for.


13 posted on 02/09/2013 10:19:15 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Katya

I’ve said before, a good black president would be great for America.


14 posted on 02/09/2013 10:25:36 AM PST by Rennes Templar
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To: Katya

I like the idea- but does he have any known political leanings? If he’s a Baltimore resident, do they have to register in a political party? I bet he is a Republican or Independent or a Conservative- (there IS a Conservative Party in MD). Does anyone know?


15 posted on 02/09/2013 10:29:50 AM PST by matthew fuller (Fast and Furious fizzled- Enter Sandy Hook.)
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To: Katya

Here is a C-Span discussion of his book, “America The Beautiful” by him. it is 73 minutes long, and I have not yet watched it.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/305144-1


16 posted on 02/09/2013 10:36:15 AM PST by matthew fuller (Fast and Furious fizzled- Enter Sandy Hook.)
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To: cripplecreek
Thank you. I was just about to ask, does anyone know his stance on the Second Amendment? I will never support anyone who opposes it in the least, by even the most so-called "common sense" (as the left pretends) abridgemnt of those rights. People are again getting excited over one speech and not digging deeper first. If, after checking out his conservative bona fides on this issue and others, he still looks good, then get excited. Haven't we seen this before, more than once?
17 posted on 02/09/2013 10:37:46 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: cripplecreek

For that matter, what about his views on amnesty and illegal immigration? Everyone got all stirred up over Rubio, and look what happened, and his views were already out there, it’s just no one bothered to think about it and check first before jumping on his bandwagon. Same with Chris Christie. Everyone liked his tough talk to the unions, but he turned out to be an utter RINO, and a gun-grabber.


18 posted on 02/09/2013 10:40:40 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: mrsmel

It was a great speech and from what I’ve seen of him otherwise, I’m impressed but beyond that, I don’t know.


19 posted on 02/09/2013 10:40:40 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Exactly. I also liked his speech, as far as it went, but it didn't go the limit (not that it was expected to do so). That's why we need to check further before jumping the gun, doing that has led to dissapointment manytimes in the past (Christie, Rubio, even long-established "conservatives" who suddenly came out of left field on conservative issues).
20 posted on 02/09/2013 10:43:21 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: matthew fuller

He said on some show that he was Independent. Judging from the books, I think health care policy is pretty well thought through but have no idea on anything else...


21 posted on 02/09/2013 10:45:13 AM PST by erlayman
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To: allendale

> At best it is meant to protect the feelings of people in a diverse and complex culture.

Political correctness was never about this. It was always about stifling views that dissent from the liberal orthodoxy. In essence, it is to make certain politically incorrect ideas (like liberty, God, etc.) unspeakable and eventually unthinkable.


22 posted on 02/09/2013 10:53:54 AM PST by XEHRpa
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To: erlayman

That makes sense, but getting elected as an Independent might be tricky- but there might also be an advantage there, drawing votes from both major parties.


23 posted on 02/09/2013 10:57:56 AM PST by matthew fuller (Fast and Furious fizzled- Enter Sandy Hook.)
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To: mrsmel; All
Check out his biography in Biography.com

Ben Carson Biography - Facts, Birthday, Life Story - Biography.com

Benjamin Solomon Carson was born in Detroit, Michigan, on September 18, 1951. The second son of Sonya and Robert Solomon Carson, Ben grew up in the hardened climate of inner-city Detroit. Ben's mother was raised in Tennessee in a very large family. She dropped out of school in the third grade. With not much hope or prospects in life, she married Baptist minister Robert Carson when she was 13, believing that he would change her life. The couple moved to Detroit, Michigan, and for a time, the marriage was a success. Carson showered his wife with gifts and attention. But over time, Robert Carson changed. Though benevolent, he could also be domineering and erratic. In time, Sonya felt it was best for her sons if she and Robert divorced.

Ben was eight and Curtis, Ben's brother, was 10 when Sonya was left to raise the children on her own. The family was very poor, and to make ends meet Sonya sometimes took on two or three jobs at a time in order to provide for her boys. Most of the jobs she had were as a domestic servant. There were occasions when her boys wouldn't see her for days at a time, because she would go to work at 5:00 AM and come home around 11:00 PM, going from one job to the next. She was frugal with the family's finances, cleaning and patching clothes from the Goodwill in order to dress the boys. The family would also go to local farmers and offer to pick corn or other vegetables in exchange for a portion of the yield. She would then can the produce for the kids' meals. Her actions, and the way she managed the family, proved to be a tremendous influence on Ben and Curtis.

Sonya also taught her boys that anything was possible. By his recollection many years later, Ben Carson had thoughts of a career in medicine, though it was more of a fantasy many young children harbor as they grow up. Because his family was on medical assistance, they would have to wait for hours to be seen by one of the interns at the hospital. Ben would listen to the pulse of the hospital as doctors and nurses went about their routines. Occasionally, there'd be an emergency and he could hear in people's voices and in their quick movements the pace and emotions rise to meet the challenge. He'd hear the PA system call for a "Dr. Jones" and fantasized that one day they'd be calling for a "Dr. Carson."

Both Ben and his brother experienced difficulty in school. Ben fell to the bottom of his class, and became the object of ridicule by his classmates. He developed a violent and uncontrollable temper, and was known to attack other children at the slightest provocation. The poverty he lived in and the difficult times he experienced in school seem to exacerbate the anger and rage.

Entire bio (6 pages) in the link

Here

24 posted on 02/09/2013 11:05:53 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Katya

West Carson ticket. That should drive the libtard losers wild. We will see how tolerant they are.

Common sense rocks.


25 posted on 02/09/2013 11:06:25 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Katya

Dr Carson was on Hannity last night and Sean asked him if he had been asked to run for president. He replied if he would get a nickel for every time he had been asked he could finance his campaign with it


26 posted on 02/09/2013 11:10:49 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

He seems a wonderful, compassionate, and gifted man. I’d still like to know his stances on illegal immigration, Second Amendment rights, etc. The very fact that he defines himself as an independent seems to be a clue that there are areas in which he differs with conservative positions. Many people are wonderful as humans, but I don’t want them as president, influencing policies about which I feel strongly, and, as I believe, rightly, because my beliefs follow a Constitutional construction. The Second Amendment is important, as is upholding our laws on illegal immigration.


27 posted on 02/09/2013 11:20:28 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Katya
He certainly made the left squirm.

As they well deserve!

28 posted on 02/09/2013 11:27:55 AM PST by JaguarXKE (Welcome to the new America.)
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To: Kaslin

Wonderful! Thank you for the link. Carson had mentioned his terrible temper in his speech at the Prayer Breakfast. I had no idea how terrible it really was. It just goes to show that when we earnestly ask God for help with a problem, He really does help!


29 posted on 02/09/2013 11:32:42 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: matthew fuller

http://newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=MD&last=carson&first=benjamin


30 posted on 02/09/2013 11:38:57 AM PST by TwoSue
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To: JaguarXKE

He certainly made the left squirm.
As they well deserve!

...he sure made Bob Beckel squirm...anyone watch the Five Friday night?


31 posted on 02/09/2013 12:01:27 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: JaguarXKE

He certainly made the left squirm.
As they well deserve!

...he sure made Bob Beckel squirm...anyone watch the Five Friday night?


32 posted on 02/09/2013 12:01:39 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: cripplecreek

I do not normally comment in a negative fashion on previous posts.

In fact, I think this is the first time ever.

But your statement is just plain silly. Are you purposely trying to be provocative, because I have been - ever so slightly - provoked. :-)

Should there have been a sarcasm tag?

Dr. Carson has a lifetime of accomplishment, extraordinary skills, has saved countless lives, and lived a life of exemplary behavior in overcoming the conditions of his youth (THANKS to his mother by the way for her mothering!).

Justin Beiber? Not so much, in any of the above categories.

If you mean, in the political sense, the latest fad?

Let me just say this to that.

As I watched his talk at the National Prayer Breakfast (which I have forwarded with commentary to my entire family), I said to myself THERE is the guy on that dais who should be President!

And I could care less that he is 7th Day Adventist, which I didn’t know until I looked into his history and upbringing.

Finally, given that he is 61 years old, he is what he is. He is not going to change who and what he is, unlike Beiber who as a youth is “evolving” if I can put it that way (and for the worse apparently).

Dr. Benjamin Carson for President? Sign me up...

:-)


33 posted on 02/09/2013 12:01:48 PM PST by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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To: Katya

Is he a Republican?


34 posted on 02/09/2013 12:01:48 PM PST by eCSMaster (Palin was correct!)
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To: Katya

Dr. Carson can now look forward to an IRS Anal Speculum Examination every year for the forseeable future.

I like him.


35 posted on 02/09/2013 12:02:18 PM PST by paterfamilias
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To: FamiliarFace

He sure does


36 posted on 02/09/2013 12:08:52 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: eCSMaster

I do not know if he is a democrat-republican-independent, BUT I know one thing.

He is an American. A real one.

Unlike who we have now, who was raised in Indonesia for a significant part of his youth.

I totally understand and agree with others’ previous comments questioning what is Carson’s 2nd amendment stand, immigration, etc.

But after the last three Republican candidates, Dole and McCain...
(”who’s turn is it next” establishment candidates who were disasters)

and then Romney...
(who I actually think would have been fine if not perfect, and who I think really WAS robbed of the election, unlike Gore, who really lost)

Carson could be head and shoulders above them all.

After all, he clearly gets what De Tocqueville got!


37 posted on 02/09/2013 12:14:26 PM PST by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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To: cripplecreek

“Justin Bieber”? NO.

This is a serious, truly accomplished man. A surgeon of long standing (he is 61 yrs. old); and still holds down a full work load, he and his wife started a reading project and scholarships that shows his money is where his mouth is.

He’s the man that Obama only WISHES he were. (I doubt Ben Carson is politically ambitious.)


38 posted on 02/09/2013 12:16:45 PM PST by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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To: Katya

I’m pretty sure the Ben Carson for President article title... was not very serious in the first place

...one thing I can assure you...I will not be counting the hours till Downton Abbey...nonsensical soap opera fluff incorporating male sensitivity of today into the WWI era...I watched some of it last year, and two of the major male characters burst into tears over some not so serious stuff...which likewise made me dislike “The King’s Speech”...feminine balderdash...


39 posted on 02/09/2013 12:17:29 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: muffaletaman

“After all, he clearly gets what De Tocqueville got!”

Obama thought De Tocqueville was a place to score choom.


40 posted on 02/09/2013 12:17:39 PM PST by paterfamilias
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To: muffaletaman

“After all, he clearly gets what De Tocqueville got!”

Obama thought De Tocqueville was a place to score choom.


41 posted on 02/09/2013 12:17:53 PM PST by paterfamilias
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To: paterfamilias

Obama thought De Tocqueville was a place to score choom.

...that was good enough to bear repeating, I guess...


42 posted on 02/09/2013 12:24:03 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: muffaletaman

I would never, never, never vote for anyone, no matter how wonderful they are on any other issues, who does not uphold our Constitutional right to KABA, with no ifs, ands, or buts.


43 posted on 02/09/2013 12:24:13 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: paterfamilias

“Obama thought De Tocqueville was a place to score choom.”

ROFLMAO!! You should make that your tagline. :)


44 posted on 02/09/2013 12:33:39 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: mrsmel

No problem with that, I agree.

I guess that also means you don’t want Clinton, Biden or any other of their ilk ( democrats) winning the next presidential election.

We have to get through now to Nov. 2014 first. Then we see what comes up next.


45 posted on 02/09/2013 12:37:24 PM PST by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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To: Katya

I’m in.....


46 posted on 02/09/2013 12:46:51 PM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: Katya

President Won did not look the happy camper at all during the speech. I had fun watching him looking dower and annoyed at the speech content, maybe for Dr. Carson too. Good speech, even better with the uncomfortable president.


47 posted on 02/09/2013 12:48:43 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt)
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To: matthew fuller
Thanks for the link.
From that presentation one gets the idea that he's not a democrat or Republican; he's a Tea Partier!
48 posted on 02/09/2013 1:08:45 PM PST by stormhill
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To: IrishBrigade

Carson may not have a strong interest in running, I doubt he has a lot of policy views outside of health care and taxes, but should definitely be considered as a VP possibility (or for any other national appointment he couldn’t turn down ! :-).


49 posted on 02/09/2013 1:11:27 PM PST by erlayman
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To: cripplecreek; matthew fuller; mrsmel; erlayman; eCSMaster; The Wizard; stormhill

I just found the following. It gives some perspective on Dr. Carson’s views in general.

It appears he is believer in and a defender of the Constitution, like all right-thinking people (like we here) are. :-)


I transcribed the following from a portion of the interview recording that is here:
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ben-Carson-Prayer-Obama/2013/02/08/id/489602

“World-renowned pediatric neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson told conservative radio and television host Armstrong Williams on Friday that his attacks on the nation’s ills in his speech at the National Prayer Breakfast this week were not directed at President Barack Obama.

In his first interview since upstaging the president at the event on Thursday, Carson, director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore said his comments were “directed at the situation that is going on in our nation and how we can solve it.”


Armstrong Williams - ...should it be a limited role for government, and what are the consequences of government playing too big a role in our lives?

Dr. Benjamin Carter - If you are a student of history, you know that there are many societies that started out saying the government will be here just for these purposes and people are pretty much on their own, and virtually in all cases the government just continues to grow and to grow and become more aggressive and pretty soon people lose their rights and pretty soon you have tyranny.

That’s the natural course of things.

The people who framed our Constitution tried to frame it in such a way that that would not happen.

And while we were respectful of the Constitution it did not happen.

But now there are many people who think maybe the Constitution is a little bit outdated, and that is a precursor for allowing the same thing that has happened to other societies to happen to us.

And those of us who understand this must be vigilant and must be outspoken and not allow the Constitution to be ignored .


I agree.


50 posted on 02/09/2013 1:42:12 PM PST by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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