Posted on 02/09/2013 11:58:14 AM PST by Libloather
President Obama will propose a 1 percent pay raise for federal civilian employees in the administration’s fiscal 2014 budget proposal, the Washington Post has learned.
At the same time, the House plans to vote soon on legislation that would extend the current freeze on basic pay rates through the end of calendar 2013. The freeze was originally set for two years and scheduled to expire at the end of last year, but it was extended until a temporary budget measure expires next month.
When the measure expires, federal employees will receive a 0.5 percent raise for the remainder of 2013, unless blocked by congressional action.
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Gotta feed that base.
Some of us actually work hard and earn our paychecks.
The doosh knows not shame.
How about this? Then unemployment get back under 4% and GDP is higher than 3%, and, inflation is back below 2%, then he can reward HIS constituency.
Seems like these salaries were bumped up quite a bit right before the “freeze”.
Cut military pay, raise government drone pay. Hussein “has their back”.
The public sector is the largest employer of a certain demographic. Hussein told them that he “has their back”. One of the few times he wasn’t lying.
Like everyone else who receives a big raise, 1 percent won’t even cover the medical insurance costs that rise yearly. Nothing really that exciting. I am glad to know that the civilian sector is getting back to giving fat raises again. I have a friend who works for Exxon and his raises normally are in the ten percent range with a fat bonus yearly. I don’t complain though and in fact happy for him because that is what he chose. Some people chose to work as a civil servant and not get caught up in the money which is fine too. Nobody makes big bucks in government unless they are in very high positions of power.
No worries…it’ll be paid-for by the cut to military pay. /s
Vote Rat, it’s where your pay’s at.
But, but.. FEDERAL WORKERS ARE ALREADY OUTRAGEOUSLY OVERPAID!!! LIFETIME PENSIONS? ELIMINATE THEM.
Here's my idea....Change their retirement benefits to use the average of their wages over the years instead of their wage at retirement.
I watched this game....an employee getting a huge raise....and then retiring 2 months later.
Psssst...the person who gave him the big fat raise was the best man at his wedding. Imagine that...
I propose an 10% DECREASE in pay for all Federal employees. They are already the most overpaid, underworked segment of our workforce, and I use that term “workforce” loosely. We could more than likely cut 50% of the federal employees and never miss them.
Isn’t there an aircraft carrer that needs a $3 billion refuel?
CNN: Panetta to Recommend Pay Cut For Military
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2985891/posts
Obama Eliminates Breakfast for US Troops in Afghanistan, Stuffs Own Face
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2984698/posts
10: FUBO
20: Go to 10
No question some government employees are worth what they are paid (although, except for the military, not a lot of them). But when those of us in the private sector (that still have a job), you know, the ones paying your salary, health benefits and pension, have gone without pay raises for five years, have taken pay cuts, have given up matching 401(k) funds and have had to pay more for health benefits than ever before, it is very difficult seeing ANYONE in goverment get a single dime for a raise. In fact, it sucks.
I think the government has made the pay issue intentionally complex to confuse the issue. there are step increases, colas, adjustments for where you live. So this would be 1% on top of that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Schedule_(US_civil_service_pay_scale)#Grade_and_Step_Structure
There is the 2010 scale on the wiki page. It would be interesting to see the 2012 table to compare what happened during the “freeze”.
Those of you who do must feel taken advantage of by the loafers.
The “cut” in military pay is purely “Washington Speak.” The “cut” being talked about is to reduce the proposed active duty military pay from 1.5% to 1%. Thus there is an increase.
That is the dirty little secret about congressional arguments over “budget cuts,” Congress puts in an automatic 5% increase to the budget each year, which they never proclaim and then they say “we have to increase the budget X amount, then when conservatives say “No” to the X amount of increase over the automatic 5% increase, the Democrat/Socialists scream “conservatives are wanting to cut spending and hurt (insert name of special interest group)” when there is actually being an increase over the previous year.
Not quite.
At present, if nothing changes, sequestration for the DoD enters into Tier 2, where Navy civilian personnel are looking a 22 days of furlough or a 20% pay cut for the rest of FY13.
They aren’t too sure if they are going to push the 1 day/ week or straight 22 day furlough plan yet.
This is just public posturing before the SHTF.
Ditto for Dept of Army civilians. 22 days of furlough beginning on or about April 1st. Probably 1 day per week. Of course, my branch has already lost 2 of 6 positions in the last 2 years; and the output requirements have not decreased.
Once upon a time there were two farmers who were neighbors. They each had an ox that they were very proud of. They used their oxen to plow and pull wagons. The farmers, though neighbors, were not friends. Each was jealous of the other.
Farmer Smith said, “That Farmer Jones next door thinks his ox Babe is the best ox in this valley and everyone knows my ox Thunder is the best.”
Farmer Jones said, “Farmer Smith is always bragging about his ox Thunder, but my ox Babe is twice the animal. And it would serve him right if his crops failed because he just inherited that land.”
One day, the fence between the two farms fell over and the two oxen faced off. All the neighbors came to see what was going on. Farmer Jones ox Babe appeared to be winning. The neighbors were going to try and stop the fight but Farmer Jones said, “Let them be! This fight has been coming for a long time!”
Suddenly, Farmer Smith’s ox Thunder got the upper hand.
“Stop them!”, screamed Farmer Jones. “He’s killing my ox and my livelihood!”
“But you just said to let them fight”, said one neighbor.
“I know!”, said Farmer Jones, “But it all depends on whose ox is getting gored!”
I guess it all depends on whose ox is getting gored.
How about a pay CUT for these government “workers”? Has anyone ever seen most of those bums do anything really worthwhile for any purpose? I realize there are a few exceptions, but generally government “workers” is a misnomer.
Is the government producing a product that is making a profit? Is the country as a whole making a profit?
Back to back with a 10 percent cut in the number of federal employees. Hell yeah !
> The public sector is the largest employer of a certain demographic. Hussein told them that he “has their back”. One of the few times he wasn’t lying.
Anytime his lips are moving he’s lying. If he told them he “has their back” there’s a catch.
How gracious of you.
The way the federal workforce was constructed was that they would, as a whole, be paid significantly less than the private sector. They would be compensated with more job security and good pensions. Federal employees are not overpaid. “Studies” that state the opposite are comparing apples and oranges. Federal jobs usually require more education than do private sector jobs, lumped as a whole.
Yeah, exactly. How many of you critics of feds are facing a 20% pay cut right now?
TC
1% pay hike for federal workers, but no breakfast for soldiers in Afghanistan. That sounds right, NOT!
You have it backwards: nobody is cutting active duty pay—it’s the DoD civilians—and only us—that are staring down the barrel of a 20% paycut.
TC
What salary “bumpup?” Our pay has been frozen for four years.
TC
There is no cut to military pay even proposed.
TC
Come visit the Pentagon. I’ll show you “slackers.” A good time to visit would be 0400 or 2030.
TC
Wow. is that ever proof that nobody is getting rich being in government. I can’t believe how low those figures are. Once you take taxes and other items like medical insurance, these government workers are poor! The average government worker is a GS-6. So over 1/2 make 30 grand before taxes. I feel sorry for them and wished that they would have chosen the private sector where average salaries are 68,000 dollars. The life of a government worker changed in 1981. The retirement sucks now too.
Nobody in here but us chickens, lol.
How’s the electric bill on that six bedroom house in the DC ‘burbs these days?
Still congratulating yourself for your “wisdom” in getting a job with government healthcare and pension?
You really should avoid this topic on FR, you know. Some of us recall that whole sordid exchange.
The only thing more frustrating than facing the 20% pay cut is being forced to prepare contracts which pay sidewalk sweepers at twice our salary.
I guess "big bucks" is all in how you define it. Maybe for union sucks, the UAW is better, but not by much these days.
The reason the private sector is so low is because we don’t count every swinging dick like you folks do. We don’t have McDonald’s workers and other such types to lower our overall average. Heck you guys have a bunch of welfare folks dragging your average down. Government workers have no such types.....The lowest paid worker makes 21 thousand....your lowest wage earner is about 12,000....Cook the books and you will find whatever result you need. Let’s not even start with Education......That would really make you guys sad.
It must be the stress of being poor that causes you to come across as being so rude and snappish, bless your heart. I forgive you. That federal pay and benefit package really sucks, Or so I hear. From you, lol.
Well yes. I agree that people still continue to get promoted on merit. Just like a plumber’s helper progressing to apprentice to journeyman to master. Do you see something wrong with merit promotions?
TC
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