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Police: Dorner Is Heavily Armed, Trained and Dangerous
KTLA5 ^ | 9 February 2013 | Rick Chambers

Posted on 02/09/2013 1:49:12 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

BIG BEAR LAKE, Calif. — The ex-cop suspected in the killings of an officer and two others remained at large Friday as darkness fell over a mountain forest and police suspended their manhunt until Saturday morning. “Once it gets dark out there and the snow keeps falling and they have no air support, I don’t know how effective they would be in that situation,” spokeswoman Cindy Bachman of the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department said.

Throughout Friday, more than 100 officers searched through fresh snow for clues to the whereabouts of Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, a fired Los Angeles Police Department officer and former Navy lieutenant suspected in the three killings. Dorner allegedly wrote a manifesto declaring a war of revenge on police, authorities said.

By Friday night, police were expected to have completed a search of vacant cabins in the snowpacked forest of the San Bernardino Mountains near the resort town of Big Bear Lake, Bachman said.

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“My opinion of the suspect is unprintable,” Riverside police Chief Sergio Diaz said, hours after one of his officers was killed. “The manifesto, I think, speaks for itself (as) evidence of a depraved and abandoned mind and heart.”

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– Despite Dorner’s statement in the letter that “when the truth comes out, the killing stops,” Los Angeles police Chief Charlie Beck said authorities don’t plan to apologize to Dorner or attempt to clear his name. Dorner’s firing, Beck said Thursday, had already been “thoroughly reviewed.”

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– In Nevada on Thursday, FBI agents searched Dorner’s Las Vegas home. The search forced some of Dorner’s neighbors out of their homes for several hours, CNN affiliate KLAS reported.

(Excerpt) Read more at ktla.com ...


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Several very interesting comments by authorities. Giving a quote saying what you think about someone you're looking for as being unprintable doesn't sound very professional to me. Also, maybe they just asked people to leave their homes instead of "forcing" them out.
1 posted on 02/09/2013 1:49:26 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Wouldn't it be helpful to have electronic tracking devices inbedded in all LEOs? It sure would help in finding this rogue cop.

The LAPD act collectively like Dobermans anyways.

For the safety of all, cops need to transpond at all times. Zero Tolerance.

2 posted on 02/09/2013 1:53:56 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I wonder if they’re kicking in all the doors and windows of those vacant cabins.

I’d be pissed if I went up to my cabin in the spring and found broken doors and critters living in the thing.


3 posted on 02/09/2013 1:54:24 PM PST by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

LOL! Good for the goose, right?

How are you doing Zuben?


4 posted on 02/09/2013 1:56:56 PM PST by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“...100 officers searched through fresh snow for clues...”

That there’s a real detective problem, guys.


5 posted on 02/09/2013 1:59:36 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s Are The 21st Century's Muskets. Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Apparently, the authorities don’t think the suspect can get access to any news, either-it would make more sense to me to stay shut up about anything but the bare facts where the media is concerned. If this guy is as cagey as they keep saying he is, he is likely miles away fron where they are looking by now-and what if he has an accomplice or enabler? He wants to kill people, and they just keep blabbing about where they are looking, etc.


6 posted on 02/09/2013 2:00:35 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Hey! LAPD he ain’t up there anymore! He is resting in a safe house watching the coverage on MSNBC or CNN and planning his next move.


7 posted on 02/09/2013 2:00:36 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I recognize that some of Dorner's manifesto would fit very well at DU. I do not suppose that he is "one of us". However, he is a bit of a Henry Bowman, and should the day come when people begin to rise up against the Obama regime, the early risers will (if successful) act quite a bit like Dorner.

I will not "tsk, tsk" and look down upon those who take up arms against the government. As Churchill said, "If Hitler were to invade Hell, I would at least make a favorable reference to the Devil in the House of Commons."

8 posted on 02/09/2013 2:02:04 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Police: Dorner Is Heavily Armed, Trained and Dangerous

Apparently so is the LAPD.

Witness the similar truck shot up like Swiss cheese.

LAPD is fortunate that no one was hurt, but there's big money to change hands when this is over.

9 posted on 02/09/2013 2:04:46 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: fanfan
Yes, good for the goose, fanfan. Doing OK, but experiencing some heart issues that are not really helped by all the insanity running Amok in this world.

Since this cop went nuts, can we expect other cops to follow his lead? They are trigger happy out in LA, chooting up blue trucks and cleaning ladies.

These out of control cops need to be monitored with tracking devices. They are going to exceed their normal over-reaction and people are going to be hurt, like the gansters they purport to bring to justice. We need to match the transponder with the cop weapon, as no one is safe with this bunch.

10 posted on 02/09/2013 2:04:46 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: 2111USMC

You’d likely need to send the cops a bill for bear damage, too-by spring those bears will be wide awake and very, very hungry...


11 posted on 02/09/2013 2:05:28 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

If everybody would turn in their guns they will be safe, and the police will protect them from the bad guys. Except this bad guy is a cop. oops.

Everybody in the area is protecting themselves with guns. You can’t expect anyone else to protect you.

Sorry California residents, many of you are sitting ducks because of the people in the state house.


12 posted on 02/09/2013 2:10:28 PM PST by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org -- http://defcad.org/)
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To: King_Corey

I just read that manifesto. This guy is serious and he’s already counting himself as a dead man. Very dangerous and lethal combination. Ex-cop, heavily armed, has intel and its gadgets, severely depressed, knows the law enforcement system inside and out, 3 years to plan.

Sounds like this guy is going Rambo. In his mind, LAPD drew first blood.


13 posted on 02/09/2013 2:23:27 PM PST by RacerX1128 (Cornered in CA)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“My opinion is unprintable” followed by ‘his actions are evidence of an abandoned and depraved mind and heart’ — I thought the Riverside Chief of Police’s words were spot on, totally professional, and actually THE words that described any of this.


14 posted on 02/09/2013 2:30:37 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Police: Dorner Is Heavily Armed, Trained and Dangerous

Dorner: Police are Heavily Armed and Dangerous.

15 posted on 02/09/2013 2:37:49 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Also, maybe they just asked people to leave their homes instead of "forcing" them out.

Maybe they gave them tickets to the Sands so they could see a show while the search was being carried out.

16 posted on 02/09/2013 2:50:57 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
And they shouldn't be allowed to carry fire arms, too. Very dangerous. VERY dangerous!

/sarc

17 posted on 02/09/2013 3:00:22 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
This is starting to look like the most UNprofessional manhunt since the sate of Wyoming was looking for Tom Horn.Or maybe Leflore County looking for Milam and Bryant.
This is pathetic.
18 posted on 02/09/2013 3:06:50 PM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: Tupelo

Or when the Chicago Cops were looking for Jake and Elwood.


19 posted on 02/09/2013 3:19:13 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((fubo))
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To: cicero2k

Nice job, LAPD… rapid and promiscuous FAIL!
Guns Save Life ^ | Feb 9, 2013

Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:07:14 AM by KeyLargo

Nice job, LAPD… rapid and promiscuous FAIL!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2986861/posts


20 posted on 02/09/2013 3:20:28 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Wouldn't it be helpful to have electronic tracking devices inbedded in all LEOs?

That would be great, but I think Our rulers will reserve that for us law abiding, gun owning Americans.

21 posted on 02/09/2013 3:23:49 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: RacerX1128
I just read that manifesto. This guy is serious and he’s already counting himself as a dead man. Very dangerous and lethal combination. Ex-cop, heavily armed, has intel and its gadgets, severely depressed, knows the law enforcement system inside and out, 3 years to plan.

Sounds like this guy is going Rambo. In his mind, LAPD drew first blood.

If I was on that manifesto list, I be very cautious right now. Apparently, he expected LAPD to continually crap him tiffany cufflinks everyday.

22 posted on 02/09/2013 3:38:24 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

What do you think the JBT’s reaction would be if one of the neighbours had said “No” when “asked” to vacate his own home whilst the JBT’s went through Dorner’s house?

Yeah, I thought so...

Well, I’m sure they at least had a search warrant for this one.


23 posted on 02/09/2013 3:39:27 PM PST by Don W (There is no gun problem, there is a lack of humanity problem!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

My guess is that Dorner is sitting warm, comfortable and satiated somewhere in LA, planning his next strike.


24 posted on 02/09/2013 3:39:43 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The most dangerous element of this is that he said in his manifesto that he is trained in demolitions.

A long time ago I knew some Army Explosive Ordnance Demolition (bomb disposal) types. They had an ongoing contest, in which they picked a random major city in the world, and as a thought problem, figured out how it could be paralyzed, for under $500. That is, cut off its water, electricity, sewage, communications, transportation, etc.

For under $500.

They did this contest on speculation that if some other *trained* individual(s) tried to do this, they would pick many of the same vulnerabilities. And if they did, the EOD would know where to look to neutralize their bombs.

Importantly, bombing is by far the most effective terrorist attack, because it picks all the criteria of the attack, and by the time the bomb goes off, optimally the bomber is many miles away.

The best example of this was New York’s “Mad Bomber”, who blew up bombs for 16 years before being caught.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mad_Bomber


25 posted on 02/09/2013 3:40:12 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

He might be frozen solid under a snow drift up there somewhere by now.


26 posted on 02/09/2013 3:42:56 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

Thats what I think/hope.


27 posted on 02/09/2013 3:44:46 PM PST by 1217Chic
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Oh my ... didn’t see this posted .. the full text:

http://boywithgrenade.org/2013/02/07/christopher-dorners-manifesto/


28 posted on 02/09/2013 3:45:34 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The LAPD is right to be scared. However, they are wrong in trying to scare everyone else. Dorner is after them...not the civilian populace.


29 posted on 02/09/2013 4:02:35 PM PST by Brian_Casserly ("...I will bless them that bless thee (Israel), and curse him that curseth thee..." - Genesis 12:3)
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I thought the Riverside Chief of Police’s words were spot on, totally professional, and actually THE words that described any of this.

Interesting. Jesus, even when falsely accused and being led to execution, totally innocent, didn't say anything "unprintable". Hard to defend that and in doing so, you show your lack of character. Dorner, in killing people over a job dismissal, shows far worse vacuum of character. This nation is lost.

30 posted on 02/09/2013 4:08:58 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I would like to see a comparison of allocated resources between Dorn and all the other murders that occurred in the same time period in LA.


31 posted on 02/09/2013 4:23:50 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

From reading his manifesto, it sounds like they lied to protect a female cop, ruined his career, his reputation, and ultimately his life. His statements have the ring of truth. I’m not saying that what he has done is right, but I am saying that it looks like the cops are now trying to further break the law by trying to murder him to shut him up, which in the grand scheme of things is a far worse crime than the ones they’re accusing him of committing.

It’s time for the LAPD leadership to come under the supervision of the National Guard and a full blown investigation initiated.


32 posted on 02/09/2013 4:28:31 PM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“they have no air support”

Are there no B-52s in California? Carpet bomb Big Bear. Borrow a Predator from Obama.


33 posted on 02/09/2013 4:30:13 PM PST by satan (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: School of Rational Thought
I would like to see a comparison of allocated resources between Dorner and all the other murders that occurred in the same time period in LA.

Oh, good one.

34 posted on 02/09/2013 4:34:20 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: satan
Are there no B-52s in California?

Sadly, no. Not for a long time.

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35 posted on 02/09/2013 4:50:22 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“The best example of this was New York’s “Mad Bomber”, who blew up bombs for 16 years before being caught.”

I’d say the Norway shooter was quite effective too. He lit off the bomb in Oslo, had the police from the entire southern half of Norway at the site (they have very few police in that part of the world, which is going to be a HUGE problem when it comes to even holding on to the government...but that’s another discussion), and then went to that Socialist Training Camp and shot them up - unmolested for like an hour, before anyone could get there.


36 posted on 02/09/2013 5:32:33 PM PST by BobL
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To: 2111USMC
I wonder if they’re kicking in all the doors and windows of those vacant cabins.

I have read that they have done exactly that.

37 posted on 02/09/2013 6:44:15 PM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

But he didn’t say the words. And of course he is not Jesus. I think, for the mayhem Dorner has committed and caused, he was very professional and appropriate. Lucky we don’t have to agree. And actually, you know very little about my character.


38 posted on 02/09/2013 7:14:31 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: bboop

Excellent!


39 posted on 02/09/2013 7:43:48 PM PST by kenavi (Lost the country? Win your state.)
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To: Brian_Casserly

“Dorner is after them...not the civilian populace.”

Right, a cop has been wronged by a corrupt Police force that cares noting of individual rights, ethics, or their public trust —— So he seeks to end their existence?

Man did you see the snow Connecticut got last night?


40 posted on 02/09/2013 10:57:20 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: carriage_hill

“...100 officers searched through fresh snow for clues...”

And then these same officers wondered where all the tracks came to be there. Duh.


41 posted on 02/10/2013 3:22:33 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

Keystone Kops 2013. Probably eat yellow snow, too.


42 posted on 02/10/2013 4:11:58 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s Are The 21st Century's Muskets. Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Police: Dorner Is Heavily Armed, Trained and Dangerous

Evidently he is a master of disguise, too. He can take on the appearance of a papergirl or a skinny white guy. And with a little fairy dust he can change the color of his truck.

43 posted on 02/10/2013 4:22:36 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: BobL

I am pretty convinced that Breivik carried out an attack based on a professionally composed military plan. It is known that he traveled to a Belorussian paramilitary training camp several times, and were he carrying out a plan, it worked to perfection, something that almost never happens with an amateur plan.

What he did accomplished a very focused military operation to achieve political ends, and it crippled a scheme by the ruling party to effectively destroy Norway.

The Workers’ Youth League (AUF) of the Labour Party in Norway was founded in cooperation between their socialist and communist parties youth movements, just five years after the founding of the Hitler Jugend, and based on that model.

The purpose of both organizations was to create a next generation of ideologically pure political leaders, to carry on the doctrines of their respective parties without internal dissension.

And since WWII, all the political leadership of the Norwegian Labour Party has been indoctrinated in that organization. In the last 40 years, not just Norwegian youth, but immigrant youth as well, with a decided purpose.

A major philosophical belief of the Socialist International, an organization of socialist political parties from around the world, is that nations are just a random social contrivance of no inherent value, and a major cause of war, and must eventually just become districts of a new world socialist order, formed into economic blocs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_International

The way they figure to do this is by encouraging unlimited immigration, and welfare to the immigrants, on condition that they support the socialist party. Eventually they will make the natives a minority, and then their religion, culture and history will be so diluted that they will cease to exist as a unique people and live in a one-party district of their socialist economic bloc.

Norway would be particularly easy to do this to, as though they are still 86% Norwegian, there are only about 5 million people total in Norway, so dilution with foreigners can accomplish the socialist goal quickly. The destruction of Norway.

And that is, of course, the eventual goal of the Norwegian Labour Party, taught doctrinally through the AUF, their next generation of leaders.

But enter Anders Behring Breivik. Imagine the effect it would have on even a major political party, if 69 of their top leaders were killed?

The Norwegian Labour Party only has 55,800 members. So Breivik exterminated most of their indoctrinated future leadership. Though they will be replaced, the replacements will not be anywhere near as ideologically pure, and will likely deviate from their agenda enough to ruin in for the next hundred years.

So, though Breivik murdered 69 people, mostly teenagers, he might have saved his nation. And while the Labour Party government desperately tried to have him declared insane, the courts ruled otherwise, which sends a profound message to others whose countries are under threat by the parties of the Socialist International.

Yet the profound question remains, who were his confederates?


44 posted on 02/10/2013 5:57:08 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Heavy stuff, but we’re not supposed to say it here...even if true. My problem is that I would have trouble disagreeing with you.


45 posted on 02/10/2013 6:08:51 AM PST by BobL
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

So have the Norwegians stopped Islamic immigration? Generous welfare payments to immigrants?


46 posted on 02/10/2013 6:14:21 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Bshaw

Didn’t really understand your post.


47 posted on 02/10/2013 8:25:52 AM PST by Brian_Casserly ("...I will bless them that bless thee (Israel), and curse him that curseth thee..." - Genesis 12:3)
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To: dhs12345
And they shouldn't be allowed to carry fire arms, too. Very dangerous. VERY dangerous

Go ahead yuk it up. I'm suggesting tying a transponder to a particular weapon in use by the electronically-surveilled LEO. Some cop shoots, it's part of the public record.

If all cops were wired into a central surveillance system, how much crime would be affected? Be honest now. Clearly with the advent of these types of rogue cops, we need to electonically police the cops. It's like putting cops into schools to protect the innocent civilians because it's too dangerous to otherwise let manic killers out in the general population.

Then I'd suggest the police union's pension fund be responsible for all damage awards, not the taxpayers.

The dark knight always rises for a reason and this guy Dorner is opening up discussion on police departments nationally. Its pretty bad when conservative sites like FR have long-time posters sick and tired over police brutality nationwide. Don't you agree?

48 posted on 02/10/2013 8:34:42 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Imagine the effect it would have on even a major political party, if 69 of their top leaders were killed?

Imagine the effect on the entertainment-media complex.

49 posted on 02/10/2013 8:38:15 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

His were not short term goals. His intent was to cripple their future. Their intent was to control the country with a small, radical political party, by subverting the vote in their favor by importing foreigners.

If you look at the numbers, it makes sense. Data from the CIA Factbook (their data is from 2007, but it shows the trends).

In 2007, 94.4% of the population were Norwegian. Today, this is down to 86.2%.

“Other” population in 2007, 5.6%. Today, 13.1%.

And yet, the socialist party currently has a majority of as many seats as the liberal and conservative (anti-socialist) party combined. They did this by winning the popular vote with just 949,060 votes, giving them 35.4% of the vote.

The number of immigrants in Norway is approximately 550,000. The total “immigrant population”, which includes Norwegian-born children to immigrant parents, is 655,170, corresponding to 13.1 percent of the total population (2011). (A percentage of these are from other European countries.)

So you can see how critical immigration is to Norway’s future.


50 posted on 02/10/2013 8:41:02 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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