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On the Long Island Expressway, Cold, Hungry and Stranded
The New York Times ^ | February 9, 2013 | NATE SCHWEBER and VIVIAN YEE

Posted on 02/09/2013 1:51:46 PM PST by PA Engineer

FARMINGVILLE, N.Y. — Lorna Jones decided to brave the blizzard on Friday, venturing onto the Long Island Expressway as the snow began piling up. So did many others here in Suffolk County.

They all came to regret it.

“It’s terrible. It’s cold. I don’t know how long I’m going to be here,” said Ms. Jones, 62, a nurse who stalled near the town of Brookhaven, less than a mile from her destination. “Are there any plans to help us?”

She said she had slept fitfully in her car, with no food or water, and only a bottle of Listerine next to her on the passenger seat.

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1 posted on 02/09/2013 1:51:54 PM PST by PA Engineer
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To: Kartographer

Ping.


2 posted on 02/09/2013 1:52:47 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer
“Are there any plans to help us?”

Hoho. Haha. Hee hee. It is to laugh.

Just make sure you can get to that bug out bag you put in the trunk. HAHA!

3 posted on 02/09/2013 1:59:42 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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To: PA Engineer

We’re in Connecticut. We got 3-4 feet of snow. We started clearing it around 6:00 AM. We burned up the auger clutch on the snowblower about 11:00. And I buried the ATV snowplow twice and had to dig it out each time. We finally quit doing it by hand about 4:15 with fifty feet still to go to reach the road. It looks like tomorrow we’ll be done, not that anything is open or we have any place to go. 

It’s the storm of the century, I’m told, at least I’ve never seen a bigger snowfall. BTW, 3-4 more years we’re moving to Texas.


4 posted on 02/09/2013 2:03:11 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

““Are there any plans to help us?”

Oh I don’t know...ask obama?


5 posted on 02/09/2013 2:03:18 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: PA Engineer
Are there any plans to help us?”

Good grief. She couldn't think of this before she went out in spite of warnings? Glad I'll never get her for my nurse. Problem is, she's not the only doofus like this out there.
6 posted on 02/09/2013 2:04:20 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: PA Engineer

bet those obama electric cars work great to keep you warm all night.


7 posted on 02/09/2013 2:05:19 PM PST by bravo whiskey (“People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”)
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To: max americana

Isn’t it unreal? All the technology in the world can’t overcome stupidity. Our forefathers managed worse problems without it. This dummy can only sit there and demand help.


8 posted on 02/09/2013 2:06:21 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: PA Engineer

Well at least she didn’t have bad breath when she was rescued.


9 posted on 02/09/2013 2:08:29 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: PA Engineer

Big deal. She probably voted for Obama. Let him rescue her.


10 posted on 02/09/2013 2:09:37 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

This is what we’ve become- a nation of stupid, stranded, unprepared and hopeless people waiting for ‘they’- the govt, someone else, anyone else but themselves to help and rescue them. Pathetic, really.


11 posted on 02/09/2013 2:11:24 PM PST by usmom
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To: PA Engineer
“It’s terrible. It’s cold. I don’t know how long I’m going to be here,” said Ms. Jones, 62, a nurse who stalled near the town of Brookhaven, less than a mile from her destination. “Are there any plans to help us?”

Life's tough; it's even harder when you're stupid. What ever possessed this woman to get out on the highway during the storm? It wasn't like she hadn't heard about it; the news for the past two days has been wall-to-wall NEMO!

12 posted on 02/09/2013 2:12:00 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: PA Engineer

When we lived in the Dakotas years ago, the natives told us to pack a sleeping bag with a blanket, tinned food, crackers water, a flash light and a red bandana for winter driving. The bandana was to be used to tie to the radio antenna in case the car became buried in snow during a storm.

We left the year before just such a blizzard hit. The people there were deluxe preppers.


13 posted on 02/09/2013 2:12:18 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: mrsmel

if i would have to leave my house in a situation like that i would have enough stuff in my forester, including my -40 sleeping bag, to camp in my car for 2 days comfortably. and a couple of books to read.


14 posted on 02/09/2013 2:12:33 PM PST by bravo whiskey (“People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”)
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To: bravo whiskey

I hate to say this here. But this is exactly why Governor Patrick declared a ban and got everyone except emergency personnel and media off the road for 24 hours during the storm.

Back in ‘78 several folk died waiting for someone to come dig out their cars on Route 128.

It’s hard to plow when the road is filled with cars stuck in 3 feet of snow.

Could have set a bad precedent, but in this case you can bet it saved a few lives.


15 posted on 02/09/2013 2:12:43 PM PST by shineon
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To: mrsmel

She’s a nurse? Dear Lord, I hope she’s not my nurse when I need an emergency.


16 posted on 02/09/2013 2:15:09 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: shineon

I suppose if everyone to had cross country ski’s in their car, that would have saved a few lives as well. ha ha ha


17 posted on 02/09/2013 2:15:26 PM PST by shineon
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To: bravo whiskey

Yeah, but what makes it so really stupid, is that I gather that this woman didn’t even have to leave, she just wanted to rubberneck. Who does this kind of thing, needlessly, with only a bottle of mouthwash for sustenance?


18 posted on 02/09/2013 2:15:34 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: PA Engineer
Wait 'til I hitch up the sleigh, Mama!


19 posted on 02/09/2013 2:15:56 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: txrefugee

What is a car antennae? Many Darwin Award prospects out on Long Island Distressway.


20 posted on 02/09/2013 2:16:58 PM PST by Broker (SIG357)
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To: max americana

I know! That’s also why in my family, if someone has to be in the hospital, especially for anything really major where they’re unable to act for themselves, we always have family members take turns staying with them. No offense to the fine upstanding members of the medical profession, but as President Reagan said, “trust but verify”.


21 posted on 02/09/2013 2:18:36 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: PA Engineer
In my car, I have three days of food and water for the family (with careful rationing), spare boots and coats, flashlights, Sterno, matches, and more other gear than this woman can imagine. It's all packed neatly - but no Listerine. At home, I have enough food and water, along with alternative fuels, to last a long time. That's one difference between her and a responsible adult.

Another difference is that I planned ahead. If the storm had turned way south and hit my area, I would not have needed to go out or wanted to go out for a very long time. This blizzard was not a surprise. She's a moron for endangering herself and others by taking such a foolhardy risk. Why is she on the road, in the snow, with a warning several days in advance of several feet of snow?

22 posted on 02/09/2013 2:20:06 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: PA Engineer

Stonata (Italian for StewNod)


23 posted on 02/09/2013 2:20:59 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: PA Engineer
She said she had slept fitfully in her car, with no food or water, and only a bottle of Listerine next to her on the passenger seat.

How can those brain-dead writers at the the New York Times say she had no water? What the heck do they think snow is made of?

24 posted on 02/09/2013 2:21:36 PM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: mrsmel

Good grief. She couldn’t think of this before she went out in spite of warnings? Glad I’ll never get her for my nurse. Problem is, she’s not the only doofus like this out there.

Never mind the storm, I am an important person with important things to do. Out of my my way. Nothing bad will ever happen to me, and if it does, it’s someone elses fault and they will have to rescue me- because I’m so important. Idiots one and all!


25 posted on 02/09/2013 2:21:39 PM PST by usmom
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To: Broker

I hardly need to remind you that if W was still president, this idiot would be an overnight celebrity.


26 posted on 02/09/2013 2:22:34 PM PST by Kanzan
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To: PA Engineer

Listen sweetheart, watch the weather and stay home.


27 posted on 02/09/2013 2:24:34 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: PA Engineer

Well why didn’t the great and powerful MSM just plop Ms. Jones into their Snowcat and whisk her to safety? What, were they plodding lump to lump on the LIE looking underneath for scare stories to publish, then leaving them there?


28 posted on 02/09/2013 2:24:50 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: PA Engineer; mickie
Less than a mile from your destination...and what to do?

Use shank's mare like our forefathers had to do, sweetheart.

Being a nurse your legs are probably strong as those of Charles Atlas.

Too bad you don't have his brains and determination.

You can treat your own frostbite when you get home.

Leni

29 posted on 02/09/2013 2:25:17 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Fresh Wind

Good point! I would also like to know how they got in touch with her. And were they able to help her get home?

After all she gave them a good story, the could of at least given her a way to get home. Don’t they have those news helicopters flying around?


30 posted on 02/09/2013 2:25:32 PM PST by shineon
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To: MinuteGal

Notice they don’t say what her destination was. Was it her job, was it her home, or was it the mall?


31 posted on 02/09/2013 2:27:09 PM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: PA Engineer
Mr. Cuomo defended the decision to allow the Long Island Expressway and other major thoroughfares to remain open. In Massachusetts, the authorities banned cars from the roads before the storm.

“We wanted to give people an opportunity to get home,” Mr. Cuomo said. “We didn’t want to strand people at work.”

Since the storm was going to hit the NY area earlier in the day, why didn't he suggest that State offices close, and employers cut their employees loose early in the day, or better still, suggest people stay home?

In MA, State govt. offices, many city government offices, and all schools were closed. Many other businesses closed around noon, simply to get folks out and home, off the roads, or give them the ability to do last minute errands before the snow got heavy. That contributed to there being NO cars having been abandoned on the roadways to block plows, so the roads could be cleared much earlier.

I'd venture to guess that ALL the major roads in the affected areas in MA are cleared already, and even smaller roads in towns and cities are probably clear. They didn't have to deal with getting around cars left on the roads by drivers who couldn't handle the slush, and diminished visibility from the heavy snowfall.

32 posted on 02/09/2013 2:27:19 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: txrefugee

Vintage Preppers == Common Sense Folks


33 posted on 02/09/2013 2:29:47 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: max americana

Actually, I wasn’t the least bit surprised to find out she was a nurse. My apologies to any who might be on this site because it doesn’t apply to all, but no, not surprised.


34 posted on 02/09/2013 2:29:52 PM PST by usmom
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To: shineon

Yeah, at first glance it sounded fascistic, but looking back at ‘78, it was rather prudent. He knew that there would be many who thought they could handle the snow on the road, but putting the force of law behind the travel ban would make them pay attention. And there was an exception for medical, safety, and utility workers, so the folks who truly HAD to be out on the road were in no danger of being arrested or fined.


35 posted on 02/09/2013 2:32:46 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Fresh Wind

What the heck do they think snow is made of?”

Maybe all the snow within reach was yellow. Since she was relatively close, why didn’t she just get out and hoof it? Considering she wasn’t at all prepared, she probably had high heeled sandals and a short skirt on, too. DS!


36 posted on 02/09/2013 2:32:53 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: PA Engineer

This is why Cadillac Deval banned driving on roadways here in MA. People are idiots.


37 posted on 02/09/2013 2:32:56 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: mrsmel

Last Thanksgiving, my Mom was in the hospital. We took turns, even sleeping in the visitor chairs in her room. Good thing we did - they gave her a cough suppressant which made her sleepy and disoriented. If I wasn’t there, she would have fallen out of bed and broken something.


38 posted on 02/09/2013 2:33:55 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: PA Engineer

at least she had minty fresh breath and/or a little buzz on.


39 posted on 02/09/2013 2:34:44 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: SamAdams76

Mouth-breathers with fresh breath is a good thing.


40 posted on 02/09/2013 2:35:23 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: P.O.E.

Exactly, that’s what we do. And I don’t mean that we just nag the nurses. I usually change the bed, even sweep and mop the room, myself, instead of waiting for them.


41 posted on 02/09/2013 2:36:41 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Fresh Wind

What the heck do they think snow is made of?
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Had to get technical didn’t you?
Also, to get the snow she would have had to roll down the window or open the door, find something to put it in(something tells me she would NEVER think to dump the listerine).
Hell, get thirsty enough and fill your shoe.

I agree with that one poster...it is despicable that the Guv ORDERED everyone off the road but just one or two examples of an idiot like this proves his point.

If she is ‘only’ a mile from her destination, walking to it sure beats the hell out of sitting in the car freezing to death.

Oh yes, DON’T EAT THE YELLOW SNOW. Not that there is anything wrong with that if ‘push comes to shove’.


42 posted on 02/09/2013 2:37:04 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: muir_redwoods

31 inches here in northern New London county (Conn), drifts up to 4 ft on the driveway. My snowblower performed like a champ. 300 feet of driveway mostly clear.

Still have to dig my car out and do some more snowblowing, but that and shoveling the front stoop was enough for me.


43 posted on 02/09/2013 2:39:30 PM PST by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: bravo whiskey

How long do they burn after you light them?


44 posted on 02/09/2013 2:40:20 PM PST by winodog (Thank you Jesus for the calm in my life)
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To: PA Engineer

I grew up on Long Island and we had similar blizzards like this in the 60’s and 70’s. Were people back then overall less stupid when dealing with them? Apparantly so.


45 posted on 02/09/2013 2:42:39 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Betis70

I’m lazy...I just drove thru the twenty inches sitting in my driveway and onto the main drag...good to go.


46 posted on 02/09/2013 2:43:48 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: MinuteGal

I was watching a history show about the great Dust Bowl on PBS. Well done, survivors stories, the kids dieing from “dust pnemonia, etc.”.

Anyway, this one guys tells the story of him and a cousin with his dad at their house. A huge dust storm comes in, and his cousin (a girl of 10 years or so) runs to her house 5 blocks away.

By the time the dad notices she is gone the storm is upon them. So he “army crawls” on his belly (to try to stay in the little bit cleaner air to the ground) to the cousin’s house to make sure that she made it. She did.

Then, so his son - alone at home - wouldn’t be worried, he turned around and army crawled the five blocks home!

However - a snowstorm with hard winds and white-out conditions is no place to be. There is a reason why folks in the Midwest had ropes between the house and the outhouse.


47 posted on 02/09/2013 2:44:02 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: muir_redwoods

I’m sympathetic. Three years ago we got hit with nor’easter that dumped a quick 39”. I have a very large (10,000sq.ft.+) steep sloped driveway. Took me two days, 6 sheer bolts and 4 gallons of gasoline to clear. On top of that I chewed up the honda impellers.


48 posted on 02/09/2013 2:45:23 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

In other words, this lady’s operating system is: It’s my job to be stupid; it’s your job to bail me out.


49 posted on 02/09/2013 2:45:28 PM PST by lurk
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To: PA Engineer

How many Freepers would have slept overnight in their cars, temps in the 20’s, rather than walk less than a mile home?


50 posted on 02/09/2013 2:46:52 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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