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LAPD to reopen investigation into fugitive ex-cop's firing
Fox News ^ | 9 February 2013

Posted on 02/09/2013 7:06:04 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

BIG BEAR LAKE, Calif. – The hunt in the snowy mountains for a former Los Angeles police officer suspected in three killings continued Saturday as police announced they will reopen the disciplinary proceedings that led to the fugitive's firing. Officials will particularly re-examine Christopher Dorner's allegations that his law enforcement career was undone by racist colleagues, Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck told KCBS-TV. He also urged Dorner to surrender.

"If he was to give himself up, we'd be happy to hear what he has to say," Beck said. Authorities suspect Dorner in a series of attacks in Southern California over the past several days that left three people dead, including a police officer. Authorities say he has vowed revenge against several former LAPD colleagues who he blamed for ending his career.

A scaled-back search party took advantage of a break from stormy weather Saturday to hunt for Dorner in the San Bernardino mountains using heat-sensing helicopters. Officers also fanned out in fresh snow near Big Bear Lake as vacationing families and weekend skiers frolicked nearby.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; christopherdorner; dorner; firing; guncontrol; investigation; lapd; secondamendment
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Slowly bending to say to him what he wants to hear so he'll give up or make a mistake. Excellent psy-ops. This is beginning to cost a LOT of money to the taxpayers of California and the U.S. - hope the firing of Dorner was justified after all of this.
1 posted on 02/09/2013 7:06:20 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

bump


2 posted on 02/09/2013 7:07:43 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Just reading his Manifesto...I think this guy is dumb like a fox and is playing the LAPD for suckers. He’s probably no where near Big Bear by now and iprobabl figures he already wrote what he wants them to hear. He sounds pissed off but not nuts. Although, having Bush 41 and Clinton as his favorite Presidents makes me wonder....

A Huntsman supporter! We knew there were a few out there....


3 posted on 02/09/2013 7:11:00 PM PST by bigbob
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
They're going to investigate themselves again.
4 posted on 02/09/2013 7:11:09 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I can tell you this for a fact-if it was a white cop who had gone rogue and was out killing or threatening to kill people, including innocent family members of whoever he thought did him wrong, it would not elicit any kind of response that in any way would give some kind of legitimacy to his deeds.
5 posted on 02/09/2013 7:12:07 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Jet Jaguar

My bet is that he can try to surrender but he will be shot down if no reporters are present. If reporters are present, he will die on the ride to the police station because of an escape attempt or attack on the officers.


6 posted on 02/09/2013 7:12:13 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (The Progressive mind...an arid ethical and moral wasteland!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
hope the firing of Dorner was justified after all of this.

My guess is it was. People who get fired may be pissed off, but they usually move on. They don't turn into homicidal maniacs.
7 posted on 02/09/2013 7:12:38 PM PST by rbg81
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Under orders from Eric the Red via Obamugabe, no doubt.


8 posted on 02/09/2013 7:12:57 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: bigbob

do you think he was just copy and pasting things from websites for camouflage of some type, a distraction?


9 posted on 02/09/2013 7:13:48 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; Art in Idaho; NewCenturions; Sioux-san; Youaskedforit; KirbDog; Teófilo; ...
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10 posted on 02/09/2013 7:14:03 PM PST by narses
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Has anyone seen the story I heard about thru a third party about this ex-cop owning a Barrett .50 caliber rifle???

I heard form someone who saw the story broadcast on FoxNews about this new development...

IIRC, even Law Enforcement cannot own or posess a .50 caliber rifle in that state...Unless, if it was grandfathered in before the law was changed to ban such posession, and even then I believe those particular rifles have to be registered...

I stand to be corrected, but I figure thats ok, because I know what the implications, yet again, of such information being released through a media outlet can be utilized by those who want to further demogog our Second Amendment rights, to create a concern/fear/panic in the general public in the area where they believe this ex-cop is holing up waiting to commmit his next move...

I’d like to find out (ultimately) who the source of the information given to FoxNews was...Because I figure we’ll figure out the purpose of such a story, whether it turns out to be true or not...

I know, they report, we decide...So, I’m just trying to figure out if there is a need to decide on this facet of this story...


11 posted on 02/09/2013 7:14:18 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; Art in Idaho; NewCenturions; Sioux-san; Youaskedforit; KirbDog; Teófilo; ...
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12 posted on 02/09/2013 7:14:43 PM PST by narses
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Could also be that claiming to be a friend of the king is paying off with perks. Can’t have a professed Obozo-lover being a murderer now, can we?


13 posted on 02/09/2013 7:15:17 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: stevie_d_64; Pat4ever; RIghtwardHo; Reaganite Republican; Clintons Are White Trash; HerrBlucher; ...

Ping


14 posted on 02/09/2013 7:15:40 PM PST by narses
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To: RetiredTexasVet

even if reporters are present they will write/say what Obama wants them to


15 posted on 02/09/2013 7:17:31 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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16 posted on 02/09/2013 7:19:34 PM PST by RedMDer (Support Free Republic)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The actions of this Dorner lunatic is justification itself for the LAPD to have fired him for whatever legitimate reason they had, or any lie they'd care to invent.

Try to imagine this poison-brained cretin serving as a veteran LAPD officer.

17 posted on 02/09/2013 7:21:25 PM PST by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

His manifesto was a suicide note.


18 posted on 02/09/2013 7:23:12 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Speaking of PsyOps, I think Dorner is on the winning side of this.

I just read his manifesto -- long and fascinating. He certainly got their attention. There are more than eleven people on his specific target list who aren't going to get much sleep unless he is caught. The first part of his message was to "journalists" to use all their investigative powers, including the FOIA, to find out who he really is. We all know the sterling reputation of the LAPD.

Sure, it's costing taxpayers, particularly in LA, a lot of money, but if the end result is to uncover the cancerous culture within the Dept., LA will be the winner, and Dorner will have achieved his desired result.

His best deal now would be to hole up somewhere and let the frenzy continue. His threats were all toward the LAPD, not the LA citizens (unless some Nimrod decides to try a "citizen's arrest").

Ironic that his heroes are all part of the corrupt tyranny: Bill and Hillary, Feinstein, Obama. His thinking kind of falls apart after he delivers his initial judgement on the LAPD and their "thin blue line."

19 posted on 02/09/2013 7:23:49 PM PST by RhoTheta ("We're from the Government, and we're here to help you ... NOT")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; a fool in paradise

They could give him his job back in the end and finish this sordid affair.


20 posted on 02/09/2013 7:27:12 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: stevie_d_64
Has anyone seen the story I heard about thru a third party about this ex-cop owning a Barrett .50 caliber rifle???

Dorner mentions ownership of the Barrett and other "scary guns" in his manifesto.

21 posted on 02/09/2013 7:27:25 PM PST by RhoTheta ("We're from the Government, and we're here to help you ... NOT")
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To: stevie_d_64

Believe it was in the manifesto....the Barrett


22 posted on 02/09/2013 7:27:30 PM PST by petro45acp (No good endeavour survives an excess of adult supervision)
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To: SoFloFreeper

> Under orders from Eric the Red via Obamugabe, no doubt.

TOM
(sick of the expression)
Listen. What *is* these reds?
Ever’time you turn aroun’ somebody
sayin’ somebody else’s a red. What
is these reds, anyway?

- “The Grapes of Wrath”, screenplay by Nunnally Johnson, based on the novel “The Grapes Of Wrath” by John Steinbeck.


23 posted on 02/09/2013 7:29:09 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Try to imagine this poison-brained cretin serving as a veteran LAPD officer.

Right. He'd probably do something stupid...like firing >40 rounds into a vehicle and wounding two petite, old paper delivery ladies and the surrounding neighborhood.

Wait....LAPD's gonna have to do a lot of firing if they want to get rid of all of the poison-brained cops.

24 posted on 02/09/2013 7:33:31 PM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (Based on a letter from an 8 year old…school is now illegal…”cuz it’s yuckey and dumb".)
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To: bigbob

I read the first few pages of the manifesto. If what is written about the behavior in the department it is pretty bad. Taking photos of victims of crime and accidents and then sharing them to see who has the most gruesome picture. He accuse COPS of lying n court rather than admit an arrest mistake and letting innocent people wrangle with the system and facing jail.

Does that kind of thing really take place?


25 posted on 02/09/2013 7:35:26 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: RhoTheta

Some folks simply don’t undertand the totalitarian mind even when they themselves have one.


26 posted on 02/09/2013 7:37:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"If he was to give himself up, we'd be happy to hear what he has to say," Beck said.

Too bad Beck won't make the same offer to newspaper delivery gals.

27 posted on 02/09/2013 7:38:51 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: stevie_d_64
Here is the link to Fox News' redacted version of the manifesto. I got to read the un-redacted version a couple of hours ago - the one where the expletives and the names were included - but now can't find it.
28 posted on 02/09/2013 7:42:01 PM PST by RhoTheta ("We're from the Government, and we're here to help you ... NOT")
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To: Revolting cat!
They could give him his job back in the end and finish this sordid affair.

ROFL.

29 posted on 02/09/2013 7:42:31 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

this: http://boywithgrenade.org/2013/02/07/christopher-dorners-manifesto/ site claims to have the uncensored manifesto.


30 posted on 02/09/2013 7:48:23 PM PST by garyb
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To: RhoTheta
I just read his manifesto -- long and fascinating. He certainly got their attention. There are more than eleven people on his specific target list who aren't going to get much sleep unless he is caught.

He is getting a lot of attention.

I've been out of the news loop on a business trip since this started, so I'm probably not up to speed.

He has killed three people so far, right? Have any of them been on his "specific target list"?

And the latest lead is his truck, stuck in the mud, set on fire still loaded with weapons and survival gear?

For all of the attention he's getting and all the bluster in his manifesto, a week later, he's not a very effective revenge seeker.

31 posted on 02/09/2013 7:50:51 PM PST by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: stevie_d_64

IIRC, Dorner owns a home in Nevada. He could have easily purchased a Barret there.


32 posted on 02/09/2013 7:54:28 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Christopher Dorner v. LAPD Case File
33 posted on 02/09/2013 8:02:33 PM PST by Brandonmark (OWCM is The new American Minority! 11.06.12 - Day of Infamy!)
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To: Washi

He has not been captured or killed. He has had many years to plan. He has investigators chasing shadows and line personnel shooting newspaper delivery people! Underestimate this psycho at your own peril!
He needs killing! He most likely has drop locations for vehicles, weapons , food , etc. He knows how law enforcement works. He has made plans and he has help!


34 posted on 02/09/2013 8:05:04 PM PST by TsonicTsunami08
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To: gunsequalfreedom

“Does that kind of thing really take place?”

Don’t you watch the “Investigation Discovery” channel? :-)


35 posted on 02/09/2013 8:32:54 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
hope the firing of Dorner was justified after all of this.

It will be, or at least they will say it was.

36 posted on 02/09/2013 8:32:54 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; camle; Alkhin; Professional Engineer; katana; Mr. Silverback; MadIvan; ...
They're going to investigate themselves again.

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CAT: How?
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LISTER: Rimmer, the escape pod is not an option.
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37 posted on 02/09/2013 8:44:32 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Try to imagine this poison-brained cretin serving as a veteran LAPD officer.

Having lived in LA, I can tell you he would fit in.

38 posted on 02/09/2013 8:48:54 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
then it better be an outside investigation, none of the regular suspects at Internal Investigation Division...
39 posted on 02/09/2013 8:51:59 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: RhoTheta
Unredacted Version
40 posted on 02/09/2013 9:04:23 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
From the article: "...as police announced they will reopen the disciplinary proceedings that led to the fugitive's firing. "

Doesn't anybody understand the concept of "conflict of interest"? I'm not sure who should be investigating whether the LAPD is corrupt or not, but can't we all agree that it should not be the LAPD?

What would the LAPD think about the idea of letting Dorner conduct the investigation?

41 posted on 02/09/2013 9:29:03 PM PST by William Tell
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To: RhoTheta
There are more than eleven people on his specific target list who aren't going to get much sleep unless he is caught.

I hope that for their own protection they have made their homes Gun Free Zones.

42 posted on 02/09/2013 9:44:05 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Washi

The first two killed, the couple, had some relationship to a named LAPD officer. That wasn’t random.


43 posted on 02/09/2013 10:07:43 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
Does that kind of thing really take place?

That WAS sarcasm, right? You certainly made ME laugh.

44 posted on 02/09/2013 10:24:26 PM PST by Don W (There is no gun problem, there is a lack of humanity problem!)
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To: RhoTheta

I have the original, un-redacted version of his “manifesto” archived on my website here:

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2013/02/09/chris-dorners-unredacted-manifesto/

Cheers!


45 posted on 02/09/2013 11:07:13 PM PST by DoctorBulldog (Obama sucks. End of story.)
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To: jiggyboy

THe young woman who was ambushed in a parked car was the daughter of the ex-cop and attorney who represented Dorner at his hearings. Dorner said he was going to go after family members and started with her and her fiancee.


46 posted on 02/09/2013 11:53:04 PM PST by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

How about arresting cops that shoot innocent people?

The terrified cops will threaten, harass and shoot more innocent people in their terror before they catch this guy.
cops harass helicopter shoot dorner pickup women
cops shoot innocent truck dorner idiots murder

Your papers please...
helicopter nazis harass woman rockcollector police

47 posted on 02/10/2013 2:51:24 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: bigbob
He sounds pissed off but not nuts.

Gotta be a little whacked to include everything he did in his "manifesto" and to pull the trigger to kill those he iced.

48 posted on 02/10/2013 5:40:17 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: rbg81
-- My guess is [the firing of Dorner] was [justified]. --

He was terminated for making a false accusation against another police officer, accusing them of use of excessive force - kicking a person who was in handcuffs, in police custody.

The justification the police want you to believe is that Dorner was lying, and the officer he reported on did not kick the person who was being taken into custody.

The justification Dorner want you to believe is that he was telling the truth, but the truth would "cost" the LAPD; and having an officer on the force that would snitch on LAPD wrongdoing is a risk the LAPD does not want to take. "Snitches get stitches" sort of code, played a government-operated gang.

49 posted on 02/10/2013 5:51:43 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Joe 6-pack; RhoTheta; petro45acp

Thanks for the info!!!

I guess we’ll have to wait till he (suspect) decides to utilize his “asymetrical” tactics and stops a vehicle with one of these rounds...

Kinda takes me back to the days of the Beltway sniper case years ago...Where the person doing the murdering sent police directly their “manifesto” and the police basically kept “most” of the details during the active portion of that investigation to themselves for reasons to NOT alarm or give out mis-information to the public...

Today, the MSM and some Law Enforcement believe it is prudent to give out as much information as possible and let the chips fall where they may, in the interest of avoiding disclosure (FOI) lawsuits from such a litigious (social justice seeking) society...

Again, just my opinion...


50 posted on 02/10/2013 7:02:50 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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