Posted on 02/10/2013 3:33:41 AM PST by deks
David Perdue was on his way to sneak in some surfing before work Thursday morning when police flagged him down. They asked who he was and where he was headed, then sent him on his way.
Seconds later, Perdue's attorney said, a Torrance police cruiser slammed into his pickup and officers opened fire; none of the bullets struck Perdue.
"I don't want to use the word buffoonery but it really is unbridled police lawlessness," said Robert Sheahen, Perdue's attorney. "These people need training and they need restraint."
Perdue's attorneys said their client was shot at without warning.
"As you know, officers of the Torrance Police Department attempted to kill Mr. Perdue" Thursday, the attorneys wrote in a letter to the agency's chief.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
"When Torrance issues this ridiculous statement saying he wasn't injured, all they mean is he wasn't killed," his attorney said, referring to a press release reporting "no visible injuries" to Perdue.
A department spokesman said Saturday that the shooting is still under investigation. In a statement to The Times, the department said: "The circumstances of the incident known to the responding officers would have led a reasonable officer under normal circumstances — and these were far from normal circumstances — to believe that fellow officers were being shot at and that the vehicle traveling toward them posed a serious risk.
"In the split seconds available to them," the statement continued, "action was appropriate to intervene and stop the actions of the driver of that vehicle."
Just an observation. Let’s review how US troops ended up reacting in Iraq....after a year or two there. They’d readily fire on any suspicious car that they felt was going to make a run at the entry point or if the driver showed any unusual head movements. It’s only taken the LA cops three days to reach this point.
If this guy stays hidden for the next thirty days....I’d take a humble guess of a dozen innocent people either wounded or dead from the LA cops. The city will be facing court action that amounts to half-a-billion....if you ask me. If he stays out for a hundred days....it might even get close to a billion that they have to pay out and settle on. This guy could bankrupt the city of LA....eventually.
The Keystone Cops are shooting first... well... they did ask him questions and then shooting this time.. lol.
This is so ridiculous
Another case of attempted murder by cops
"They don't know where he is, and they're going to be edgy and jumpy," she said. "Don't get in their way. They're in a special state of consciousness right now, and they're not used to being hunted."
Perdue's attorneys said their client was shot at without warning.
"As you know, officers of the Torrance Police Department attempted to kill Mr. Perdue" Thursday, the attorneys wrote in a letter to the agency's chief.
Skinny White guy and his wife mistaken for very large Black guy. Wrong make of PU, Wrong Color. But his car was shot at and rammed. Insane even by CA standards.
But then you remember the idiots in Tucson who shot 30+ bullets into the X-Marine in his home after they kicked in his door. That one has gone silent for quite a while. Legal system is sorting it out. /sarcasm Militarization of the Police is a serious mistake. When you give children toys they are compelled to use them.
One could almost be led to believe there is a substantial cash prize to the cop who kills Dorner.
This is the kind of crap that happens when you give sheep guns and badges. I couldn’t live with myself having even fired at an innocent much less injure or kill. It’s one of the things that drives me to train hours on end and spend thousands of my own money on eqipment and training.
I wonder what he was driving. Was it even close to Dormers?
Apparently, anyone driving a pickup truck is fair game.
Soon asking a friend to “ride shotgun” may take on literal meaning.
Multiply this by millions and you can see what will happen when they start confiscating firearms from people determined not to give them up.
When they start shooting innocents just for refusing to give up their Constitutionally rightfully owned weapons and the people start shooting back there is going to be hell to pay.
Think about how many people you are getting ready to get killed Feinstein you friggin idiot.
So does this mean that the Police and the DA will afford Citizens the same level of scrutiny, should they MISTAKENLY SHOOT THE WRONG PERSON??? Thats what I thought, Arrest and Charge ALL OF THEM for FIRST DEGREE ATTEMPTED MURDER.
(Unless of course LAPD wants us to believe that cops in SoCal are just opening fire at random on innocent civilians. Which could never happen. Could it?)
At this point, his vehicle being burnt and useless, the criteria is "what vehicle is he driving." I'd say any vehicle is now fair game, from the LAPD's perspective.
Simple question, would this excuse keep the DA from charging someone else? Simple answer - you'd be going to prison.
Good grief, these Citizens need to get themselves armed and fast. They are missing an opportunity to prune the LA police of some bad guys.
Couple of things,
I do not think i could do you job without really really going crazy
And are you writing a book about your current experience?
Are you even allowed to?
If he had a dog both he and the dog would be shot dead by the foolish LAPD.
That's a very weak red herring. But it appears that the absence of a "what to do if it's a policeman" chapter means that they decide that any other rules -- know what you're shooting at -- simply don't apply.
Dorner might be loony tunes but everything he is saying about the Cali cops seems to be coming true.
From state police, we move to Police State.
The LA cops have demonstated they are too emotuional to work on this case . .
The POlice dept really has turned into jackbooted thugs.
Jackbooted thugs with machine guns. Godallmightydamn!!!!
The police officers, their supervisors, and their dept. chiefs should be charge with attempted murder.
In the “Blue Pickup Truck” case, the police were obviously trying to kill BOTH people in the truck - see the rear window.
Except that, there is some fortune on the side of the people whom the police have tried to kill, there is otherwise no “mistake” nor “accident” here - it is attempted murder; these police doing these shootings are NO DIFFERENT than the alleged perp (Dorner) whom they - we are told - are trying to pursue, er kill.
The governor and people of California just sit there, hoping, “Gee, I hope ‘they’ get this out of their system.”
You’re watching *THE NATURE OF GOVERNMENT* and learning WHY IT MUST BE LIMITED.
I realize I am just a dumb ignorant citizen sheep...but the guy they pulled over is a skinny white guy....not a six foot large black man....
How can the Torrance police think this guy was involved with this dorner leftwing wackco... After they pulled him over and questioned him...?
"The only people who should have guns are the police and the military.
Sue Torrance for every penny they’ve got.
And will somebody please confiscate the firearms of the Keystone Kops!
This is just one guy.
Imagine going after 10 million soon to be outlaw gun owners.
Yes, we should all remember that only these trained professionals are capable of handling the fine art of protecting us. Does anyone think the general population would be treated the same for opening fire on a few innocent citizens? It just backs up my knowledge that the average police officer is inferior in ability to handle a firearm in a stressful situation than the average CCW holder.
The LAPD has been this way for a long time. Go back to the TV series of the 60s and 70s and their scenes of the academy with recruits singing “We are the PD, mighty mighty PD...” There’s long been this military motif in LA. I used to think it was a coping mechanism for having to police a city of 4 million with 8,000 cops. But I’ve seen similar things in NYC since 9/11. We used to depend on our excellent multi tasked ESU for SWAT stuff. Now we have these Atlas teams that have as much firepower and more physical protection than an infantry squad.
I wonder what the 'cop on innocent citizen' homicide rate is vs the 'assault rifle owner on fellow citizen' homicide rate?
I have a gut hunch that police murder more innocents than citizens do with scary looking semi-auto rifles.
In the distant past, I managed a gun store and had contact with hundreds of police, state highway patrol, etc. The vast majority were literally about the nationwide average with a handgun. In other words, I was a competitive shooter and there were none that were even close to that level. I often helped correct some of their shooting issues, and some became decent shooters if they desired to on their own.
Just wait until the mexican cartels start acting as bad as they do in mexico (killing police at will). That will be interesting.
Yeah they’re edgy and jumpy. They should have never done the affirmative action hire. Then they wouldn’t be having this problem.
Big bad cops get awfully jumpy when they get targeted by criminals. And its not just a recent thing. About 40 years ago in NYC there was militant group that targeted cops and had shot some of them. I was working at a gas station filling some guy’s car and a car down the block backfired. The guy hit the dirt instantly as I stood there looking down at him. Turns out he was an off duty cop.
“In the distant past, I managed a gun store and had contact with hundreds of police, state highway patrol, etc. The vast majority were literally about the nationwide average with a handgun.”
I’d say you were being generous. A gunclub I belonged to held a montly informal IPSC shoot. No one special, just a bunch of average guys having fun. One day a couple of cops showed up including the head firearm training officer. They got smoked so bad they never showed up again.
A few years after that I went to a “tactical training” course given by another police firearms instructor. Not to brag but after the first several targets it was clear I could shoot much faster and more accurately than he could (and I am probably somewhat better than average).
I suppose they hadn’t heard that Dorner’s pickup was up in the mountains burned to a crisp.
I guess they've run out of dogs to shoot. How the LAPD is killing innocent civilians. They now have total disregard for anyone's life. They're going to end up murdering more people than their own ex-cop fugitive in the process.
Didn’t they just find his truck, all burned out, somewhere up in the mountains? Do they think he happened to have another one just like the other one? Didn’t they get the word? Just another reason to cut southern Cal off from the rest of the continent and let it drift away to sea where, hopefully, it will capsize.
Hmm really.....2003, 2004, 2006-2007, 2007-2008 in Marine infantry units every deployment; I didn't realize that was the case.........
oh teevee said it was true, so it must be; they can't put stuff on teevee or the internets if it isn't true.
Dorner knew he would put everybody on edge. It wouldn’t surprise me if he holed-up somewhere deep where they wouldn’t find him and killed himself.
The cops would go nuts looking for weeks or months not knowing if he were dead or alive.
Apparently the status of “rogue” cop is a very subtle distinction. It seems the currently “non-rogue” cops are just about as dangerous and a lot more numerous. It’s a good thing only cops can be trusted with guns.
He’s driving the motorcycle he had in the back of the pickup he torched.
The only reason he wasn’t killed is because he was shot at by police. If it had been anybody with weapons expertise he would be dead. Now he will live to collect and enjoy his millions from the lawsuit his attorney is no doubt filing as we speak.
Suing Torrance doesn’t solve anything. Holding individual officers criminally and civilly responsible would make a difference. If the cops who did this were sued into bankruptcy, put in jail, and their wives and children on public assistance then that would get the attention of the Union Brothers in blue. NOTHING else will do that.
The special laws and protections that Police enjoy must be curtailed. Police powers must be curtailed. The 4th Amendment is a joke to these guys, but nothing changes until they are sued into personal bankruptcy.
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