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Police seeking Dorner opened fire in a second case of mistaken identity
Los Angeles Times ^ | February 9, 2013 | Robert Faturechi and Matt Stevens

Posted on 02/10/2013 3:33:41 AM PST by deks

David Perdue was on his way to sneak in some surfing before work Thursday morning when police flagged him down. They asked who he was and where he was headed, then sent him on his way.

Seconds later, Perdue's attorney said, a Torrance police cruiser slammed into his pickup and officers opened fire; none of the bullets struck Perdue.

"I don't want to use the word buffoonery but it really is unbridled police lawlessness," said Robert Sheahen, Perdue's attorney. "These people need training and they need restraint."

Perdue's attorneys said their client was shot at without warning.

"As you know, officers of the Torrance Police Department attempted to kill Mr. Perdue" Thursday, the attorneys wrote in a letter to the agency's chief.

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In Perdue's case, his attorney said he wasn't struck by bullets or glass but was injured in the car wreck, suffering a concussion and an injury to his shoulder. The LAX baggage handler hasn't been able to work since, and his car is totaled, Sheahen said.

"When Torrance issues this ridiculous statement saying he wasn't injured, all they mean is he wasn't killed," his attorney said, referring to a press release reporting "no visible injuries" to Perdue.

A department spokesman said Saturday that the shooting is still under investigation. In a statement to The Times, the department said: "The circumstances of the incident known to the responding officers would have led a reasonable officer under normal circumstances — and these were far from normal circumstances — to believe that fellow officers were being shot at and that the vehicle traveling toward them posed a serious risk.

"In the split seconds available to them," the statement continued, "action was appropriate to intervene and stop the actions of the driver of that vehicle."

1 posted on 02/10/2013 3:33:58 AM PST by deks
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Just an observation. Let’s review how US troops ended up reacting in Iraq....after a year or two there. They’d readily fire on any suspicious car that they felt was going to make a run at the entry point or if the driver showed any unusual head movements. It’s only taken the LA cops three days to reach this point.

If this guy stays hidden for the next thirty days....I’d take a humble guess of a dozen innocent people either wounded or dead from the LA cops. The city will be facing court action that amounts to half-a-billion....if you ask me. If he stays out for a hundred days....it might even get close to a billion that they have to pay out and settle on. This guy could bankrupt the city of LA....eventually.


2 posted on 02/10/2013 3:42:44 AM PST by pepsionice
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It is a good thing that the police are incompetent in their attempts to kill regular citizens. They are in the process of creating more resentment against the police. Citizens will view the police as a threat, will not call them to report anything and fear that any involvement could lead to their own death. Each of the officers involved in these incidents need to be fired and charged appropriately. The individuals victimized should be compensated generously. If there are no actions against the police after internal investigations, the seeds of more actions against the police will have been planted.
3 posted on 02/10/2013 3:48:11 AM PST by Truth29
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The Keystone Cops are shooting first... well... they did ask him questions and then shooting this time.. lol.

This is so ridiculous


4 posted on 02/10/2013 3:51:19 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: deks

Another case of attempted murder by cops


5 posted on 02/10/2013 3:52:21 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Connie Rice, a civil rights attorney, said it's not surprising when police make mistakes during manhunts.

"They don't know where he is, and they're going to be edgy and jumpy," she said. "Don't get in their way. They're in a special state of consciousness right now, and they're not used to being hunted."

Perdue's attorneys said their client was shot at without warning.

"As you know, officers of the Torrance Police Department attempted to kill Mr. Perdue" Thursday, the attorneys wrote in a letter to the agency's chief.

Skinny White guy and his wife mistaken for very large Black guy. Wrong make of PU, Wrong Color. But his car was shot at and rammed. Insane even by CA standards.

But then you remember the idiots in Tucson who shot 30+ bullets into the X-Marine in his home after they kicked in his door. That one has gone silent for quite a while. Legal system is sorting it out. /sarcasm Militarization of the Police is a serious mistake. When you give children toys they are compelled to use them.

6 posted on 02/10/2013 3:55:33 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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One could almost be led to believe there is a substantial cash prize to the cop who kills Dorner.


7 posted on 02/10/2013 4:01:14 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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This is the kind of crap that happens when you give sheep guns and badges. I couldn’t live with myself having even fired at an innocent much less injure or kill. It’s one of the things that drives me to train hours on end and spend thousands of my own money on eqipment and training.


8 posted on 02/10/2013 4:09:21 AM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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I wonder what he was driving. Was it even close to Dormers?


9 posted on 02/10/2013 4:22:52 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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Apparently, anyone driving a pickup truck is fair game.

Soon asking a friend to “ride shotgun” may take on literal meaning.


10 posted on 02/10/2013 4:32:37 AM PST by fattigermaster (When tigers hunt, the jackals profit...when tigers sleep, the jackals rule.)
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To: deks

Multiply this by millions and you can see what will happen when they start confiscating firearms from people determined not to give them up.

When they start shooting innocents just for refusing to give up their Constitutionally rightfully owned weapons and the people start shooting back there is going to be hell to pay.

Think about how many people you are getting ready to get killed Feinstein you friggin idiot.


11 posted on 02/10/2013 4:34:02 AM PST by Venturer
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So does this mean that the Police and the DA will afford Citizens the same level of scrutiny, should they MISTAKENLY SHOOT THE WRONG PERSON??? Thats what I thought, Arrest and Charge ALL OF THEM for FIRST DEGREE ATTEMPTED MURDER.


12 posted on 02/10/2013 4:34:09 AM PST by eyeamok
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Maybe LAPD should publish a list of all the vehicles they suspect Dorner of owning - Grey Titan, Blue Tacoma, Grey Ridgeline, etc. so that people who drive them can be aware that the cops might be suspicious of them.

(Unless of course LAPD wants us to believe that cops in SoCal are just opening fire at random on innocent civilians. Which could never happen. Could it?)

13 posted on 02/10/2013 4:34:23 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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-- Maybe LAPD should publish a list of all the vehicles they suspect Dorner of owning --

At this point, his vehicle being burnt and useless, the criteria is "what vehicle is he driving." I'd say any vehicle is now fair game, from the LAPD's perspective.

14 posted on 02/10/2013 4:41:16 AM PST by Cboldt
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: "The circumstances of the incident known to the responding officers would have led a reasonable officer under normal circumstances — and these were far from normal circumstances — to believe that fellow officers were being shot at and that the vehicle traveling toward them posed a serious risk."

Simple question, would this excuse keep the DA from charging someone else? Simple answer - you'd be going to prison.

15 posted on 02/10/2013 4:59:24 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Good grief, these Citizens need to get themselves armed and fast. They are missing an opportunity to prune the LA police of some bad guys.


16 posted on 02/10/2013 4:59:24 AM PST by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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To: Ajnin

Couple of things,
I do not think i could do you job without really really going crazy
And are you writing a book about your current experience?
Are you even allowed to?


17 posted on 02/10/2013 5:03:29 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((fubo))
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To: GeronL

If he had a dog both he and the dog would be shot dead by the foolish LAPD.


18 posted on 02/10/2013 5:03:29 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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"Nobody trains police officers to look for one of their own," said Maria Haberfeld, a police training professor

That's a very weak red herring. But it appears that the absence of a "what to do if it's a policeman" chapter means that they decide that any other rules -- know what you're shooting at -- simply don't apply.

19 posted on 02/10/2013 5:05:27 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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20 posted on 02/10/2013 5:06:06 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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