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Glen Beck talks 3d technology
The Blaze ^ | Feb 10, 2013 | Glen Beck

Posted on 02/10/2013 10:54:28 AM PST by Vince Ferrer

Glenn Beck talks with Hod Lipson, author of "Fabricated The New World of 3D printing"

A good interview on the implications of 3d printing. Glen understands the technology better than anyone else I have seen in the media. He does understand that it is the centralization of power which is at risk, because power could only be centralized and control the economy when the industrial revolution created large factories. However, I don't think we are going into a new frontier as he seems to think we are. We are simply going back to the days before the industrial revolution, with decentralized production, as it was around the time of our revolution.

In those days a blacksmith, gunsmith, silversmith, etc was in every town, and could make anything required by the town. This is where we are heading. Government can't control it, and efforts to control it will fail, because demand for these machines will be driven in part by the demand to produce things that are not allowed to be made by centralized factories.


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1 posted on 02/10/2013 10:54:34 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

I hope you are right, Vince. The next step in a run-away government would be to identify households/businesses having these devices and to monitor their output.


2 posted on 02/10/2013 11:02:36 AM PST by davisfh
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To: Vince Ferrer

This 3-D printing will in a little while morph into something called an assembler.

They will come in small desktop models to large mobile models that build homes/bridges/whatever

Just about all you really need to build large structures like homes is lots of sand, an assembler and plenty of energy.

Assemblers will one day be able to create drugs, food, clothes, electronic devices, tools .... and new assemblers.

Progressives (communists) will NOT like this tech at all! How can you rule over a populace that does not need anything from government!?!?


3 posted on 02/10/2013 11:04:30 AM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: davisfh

One of the nice things about this is the home version of these machines were begun as open source hobby projects, which are still around. There is no real way to determine who has built these machines.


4 posted on 02/10/2013 11:08:35 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
Here is a longer talk by the same Hod Lipson:

Hod Lipson

5 posted on 02/10/2013 11:16:42 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Bobalu

When I can buy a 3D printer/assembler that can make me a new 3D printer/assembler, I’ll be first in line. Until then, I remain doubtful that I can print myself up a new iPhone any time soon.


6 posted on 02/10/2013 11:22:33 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine
When I can buy a 3D printer/assembler that can make me a new 3D printer/assembler, I’ll be first in line. Until then, I remain doubtful that I can print myself up a new iPhone any time soon.

Almost there: RepRap

7 posted on 02/10/2013 11:27:53 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

The 3D printer empowers the individual. That’s why the gov will soon get around to controlling the things.


8 posted on 02/10/2013 11:30:36 AM PST by I want the USA back (We have got to defeat these marxist, jihadi-favoring redistributionists!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

I like the whole 3D printing concept, it fits in well with the DIY concept Americans have come to know and love. Working in the machine tool industry, I can add this to my arsenal of machining techniques. Of course, the DIY CNC concept predates this technology by at least a decade. I can easily see combining both of the conceptsto produce anything people can come up with.


9 posted on 02/10/2013 11:34:56 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: davisfh

Remember, communist countries license possession and use of printers/copiers/faxes. Punishment of violations is severe.

If 3D printers are likewise controlled, it’s time.


10 posted on 02/10/2013 11:49:48 AM PST by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: Vince Ferrer; AFPhys; AD from SpringBay; ADemocratNoMore; aimhigh; AnalogReigns; archy; ...
3-D printer ping


11 posted on 02/10/2013 11:52:02 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

do they have any 3-d printers that can make metal components that can take stresses?


12 posted on 02/10/2013 12:08:22 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: null and void
This reminds me of Jurassic Park 3 (2001). Sam Neill's assistant out at the dig at the beginning of the movie had a 3D printer in the headquarters. He printed the voice box (that's a technical term) of a Velociraptor that they used on the island to simulate a Velociraptor distress call when surrounded by Velociraptors.
13 posted on 02/10/2013 12:13:58 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yes.


14 posted on 02/10/2013 12:17:46 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That’s exactly what it is. I’m open to finding a good graphic for the 3-D Printer Ping list, if you have one in mind.


15 posted on 02/10/2013 12:19:51 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
do they have any 3-d printers that can make metal components that can take stresses?

Yes, but those cost a lot of money. There is a lot of interest in making metal parts for aerospace applications. If you want to do something in metal on the cheap, the best thing is to make a 3d print of what you want in wax, and then use a lost wax casting process to make your metal part.

16 posted on 02/10/2013 12:20:04 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: null and void
Jurassic Park 3


19 posted on 02/10/2013 12:29:42 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Do you have one where it is half way out of the bath?


20 posted on 02/10/2013 12:34:21 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Bobalu

“This 3-D printing will in a little while morph into something called an assembler.
They will come in small desktop models to large mobile models that build homes/bridges/whatever
Just about all you really need to build large structures like homes is lots of sand, an assembler and plenty of energy.
Assemblers will one day be able to create drugs, food, clothes, electronic devices, tools .... and new assemblers.”

Kind of sounds like that great machine that the Krell were building in the 1950’s sci-fi classic, “Forbidden Planet”…

Just so long as they can’t start printin’ “the Id…”


21 posted on 02/10/2013 1:08:08 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: davisfh

“The next step in a run-away government would be to identify households/businesses having these devices”

Not practical.... it reminds of people saying printers are violating copyrights and MP3 players and computers recording and transferring studio quality music.

The answer is yep - and they changed the world. 3D printers will change it even more. They will make devices and machines that never could have been made before.

hold on


22 posted on 02/10/2013 1:26:08 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: Vince Ferrer
Wonder how good it is in mass production? Seems like squirting out a material would take a lot longer than say the current technology.

Onesey-twosey, proto types, modeling, and mockups. Maybe. But churning out thousands at a time?

Also, what about maintenance.

Maybe I am missing something.

23 posted on 02/10/2013 2:09:57 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

IMO, it is a totally new model that obviates mass production. Instead of centralized mass production, you will have individualized limited production. Either everyone will make the items they need for themselves or several people will make small amounts of various items for a small local market.

The money will initially be in the programs and various feedstocks. However, at some point you may be able to take elements like carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen and make anything at all from them. Software programs will become open source. The left will go nuts. It will be a post-scarcity economy.


24 posted on 02/10/2013 2:43:41 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: null and void
Do you have one where it is half way out of the bath?

This is as close as it comes:

I think they were faking it. If you look at the "printer," it looks more like mockup than the real thing.

It may have been that 3D printing was still on the drawing board, but Michael Crichton incorporated it into the movie just so show how prescient he was.

25 posted on 02/10/2013 4:12:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Hmmm. I vaguely recall some movie where they were draining the "stoff" from around the stereolithographied part.

Thanks for looking.

26 posted on 02/10/2013 4:20:28 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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27 posted on 02/10/2013 4:30:14 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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28 posted on 02/10/2013 4:32:57 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Bobalu

Will it be able to create a liquid?


29 posted on 02/10/2013 6:00:23 PM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Bobalu

Will it be able to create a liquid?


30 posted on 02/10/2013 6:00:36 PM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr

Yes, basically they will be able to create liquids from other raw liquids and solids. Take say H2O and a few other things and produce a large selection of finished goods.

Those that know the tech say the ability to assemble pharmaceuticals is not that far off and that will be with machines the public can afford.

Raw materials in one end and finished product out the other.

How will the drug war handle that I wonder...they can’t put the raw ingredients on a watch list since only a few basic ones would be used to synthesize nearly anything. A sort of techno-alchemy on a desktop.


31 posted on 02/10/2013 6:28:40 PM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Bobalu

That is something I would have to see to believe.


32 posted on 02/10/2013 6:57:54 PM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Bobalu

That is something I would have to see to believe.


33 posted on 02/10/2013 6:58:07 PM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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