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Senators seek back room deal on firearm background checks (Manchin and Coburn are turncoat traitors)
http://www.gopusa.com ^ | February 8, 2013 | Associated Press

Posted on 02/10/2013 2:31:28 PM PST by NKP_Vet

WASHINGTON - A bipartisan quartet of senators, including two National Rifle Association members and two with "F" ratings from the potent firearms lobby, are quietly trying to find a compromise on expanding the requirement for gun-sale background checks.

A deal, given a good chance by several participants and lobbyists, could add formidable political momentum to one of the key elements of President Barack Obama's gun control plan. Currently, background checks are required only for sales by the nation's 55,000 federally licensed gun dealers, but not for gun show, person-to-person sales or other private transactions.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; banglist; bhobanglist; guncontrol; nra; secondamendment
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To: NKP_Vet

Once a TRAITOR,ALWAYS a TRAITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


41 posted on 02/10/2013 5:17:24 PM PST by bandleader
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To: Paladin2

Not just unenforceable.
Unintended consequence: once a gun is sold off-books, it will have to stay off-books. When it pops up in the system again, lack of a purchase record is presumptive evidence of criminal acquisition. There is no incentive to bring a gun back to “legal” status, but the nontrivial cost (hundreds or thousands of dollars) and robust durability mean the owner isn’t just going to trash it and has an interest in selling it somehow.


42 posted on 02/10/2013 5:23:49 PM PST by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: NKP_Vet

” Currently, background checks are required only for sales by the nation’s 55,000 federally licensed gun dealers, but not for gun show, person-to-person sales or other private transactions.”....
What eejit wrote that line. The same laws apply at gun shows as at anywhere else. The writer reinforces the gun-grabbers’ talking point that there are no background checks at gun shows.

Thanks a pantload jackass.


43 posted on 02/10/2013 5:24:25 PM PST by Southern Partisan
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To: Southern Partisan

After clicking the link, I see that the AP is responsible for this dis-information.


44 posted on 02/10/2013 5:27:00 PM PST by Southern Partisan
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To: NKP_Vet

Here’s my compromise for the left. Government stays out of your vaginas and you buy your own birth control devices. Government stays out of my gun safe and I buy my own criminal control devices.


45 posted on 02/10/2013 5:29:17 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Robert357

“Most of my liberal friends”

Liberals cannot and should not ever be considered ‘friends’.

Don’t you realize that?


46 posted on 02/10/2013 5:40:56 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: NKP_Vet

Let’s tell them to start this “Universal” crap in the inner-city killing fields.

Leave us law abiding citizens alone!


47 posted on 02/10/2013 6:01:22 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Robert357

Background checks are simply harassment.

If they were anything more than that, then the government would take the forms they have that felons signed presumably also with her fingerprints on them and at least attempt what should be slam – dunk prosecutions. 70 out of the purported 70,000 means they’re not even trying to get the guys that are at least plausibly bad guys. They’re after everyone else instead.


48 posted on 02/10/2013 6:09:42 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: NKP_Vet

http://www.thestarpress.com/article/20130210/OPINION/302100031/Fear-often-tactic-used-by-anti-gun-lobby


49 posted on 02/10/2013 6:24:38 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: coloradan

I got a better idea....Repeal of all gun laws, Constitutional carry and any critter at any level of gov’t whom attempts to abridge ANY of our Rights (especially one as easy as ‘...shall NOT be infringed”) be immediately removed from office, lose all perks/benefits/pay and be immediately escorted to the nearest Federal prison for 10+ years for Deprivation of Rights violations.

I am so SICK of the pussy-footing and incrementalism.


50 posted on 02/10/2013 6:29:18 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: i_robot73
I like that idea too, although I don't think it's especially likely to be enacted. But, they did suggest that perhaps a compromise could be reached, so I'm just suggesting perhaps a good starting place for the compromise.
51 posted on 02/10/2013 6:50:24 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

When people act to pass laws that infringe our right to bear arms, and compliance will lower or jeopardize our security, then this is a treasonous act against our citizens.


52 posted on 02/10/2013 6:55:13 PM PST by Bravo six (Bravo six)
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To: Theodore R.; SeminoleCounty; NKP_Vet; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clintonfatigued; sickoflibs; ...
>> I once thought that Senator Coburn was the logical heir to Jesse Helms as a consistent conservative leader, but as time has passed, I find him less and less useful. That’s why I will be glad to see him bow out in 2014; I think he said he would only serve two terms, or has he changed his mind? <<

I share Theodore R.'s reaction. Coburn was one of the most outspoken conservative leaders in the House (before all the history revisionism about Newt, Coburn was widely applauded by conservatives for standing up to Newt once Newt backed away from the goals of the Contact for America) and I had high hopes for his Senate career. Sadly, he's been a huge letdown. His voting record is still OK overall, but he's very much become the kind of cozy, go-along, get-along Washington insider politicians that he rallied against in his book:

I agree this path towards embracing the GOP establishment started when he endorsed McCain for President early during the 2008 primaries (by comparison, he one of only a tiny few elected officials to endorse Alan Keyes for President in 2000) Ironic they fought so bitterly to stop him from getting the GOP primary nod for U.S. Senate because of his house career. He's really become a Trent Lott type Republican.

As far as I know, he hasn't broken his self imposed Senate term limit pledge, which means he'll be retiring in 2014 if he sticks with it like he did with his House term limit pledge. But the sad thing is I really can't trust this guy on anything anymore.

53 posted on 02/10/2013 7:06:15 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy; Theodore R.

Coburn’s current term doesn’t expire until Jan 2017.


54 posted on 02/10/2013 7:26:05 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Robert357

Why do you have these “friends”?


55 posted on 02/10/2013 7:39:24 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: BillyBoy; Theodore R.; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Perdogg; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; sickoflibs; ..

Wow Coburn, damn man. He was the last guy I thought would go iffy though it’s been clear he has been curdling in recent years (and he was buddy buddy with Obama when he was in the Senate) but this? This is low.

My opinion he works with these rat scum as equals and considers their opinions in good faith. This is the last quality we need in a US Senator. He’s allowed his thinking to be altered. His retirement can’t come soon enough.

BTW it’s not correct to call Manchin a traitor since he was never really on the side of gun owners being a lying hick bastard. NRA membership means nothing.


56 posted on 02/10/2013 11:03:33 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: onona; Paladin2
Sounds unenforceable.

So does health care, but yet here we are.

57 posted on 02/10/2013 11:55:53 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Colburn is nothing but a Republican.


58 posted on 02/11/2013 5:56:16 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: coloradan

Unfortunately, compromise, to the GOP, begins with them giving mucho ground and not fighting to re-take what was given up before.


59 posted on 02/11/2013 7:02:54 AM PST by i_robot73
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To: mrsmel

I called the NRA’s D.C. headquarters just after the AWB was passed and asked the twerp that answered the phone if the NRA was planning on kicking out the Texas demcommie rep that voted for it. He laughed in my ear and then hung up on me.

The NRA hasn’t gotten one penny from me since.


60 posted on 02/11/2013 5:52:53 PM PST by snuffy smiff (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.)
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