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Manhunt for ex-soldier who shot police chief's daughter and killed policeman (SEND IN THE DRONES)
Express (UK) ^ | 2/10/2013 | Mike Parker

Posted on 02/10/2013 4:20:08 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Police plan to use spy drones in the hunt for a Rambo-style ex-soldier and policeman who has murdered three people and vowed to kill again.

They believe burly, heavily-armed Christopher Dorner is holed-up in the wilderness of California’s snow-capped San Bernardino mountains 80 miles east of Los Angeles.

The burnt-out shell of his pick-up truck was discovered in the nearby resort of Big Bear, where residents and tourists have been warned to stay indoors as the search continues.

Yesterday, as a task force of 125 officers, some riding Snowcats in the rugged terrain, continued their search, it was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil.

A senior police source said: “The thermal imaging cameras the drones use may be our only hope of finding him. On the ground, it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.”

(Excerpt) Read more at express.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; christopherdorner; django; dorner; lapd; rambro
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To: null and void

or maybe an El Camino... if its a drone..


51 posted on 02/10/2013 5:10:06 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: gitmo

He didn’t expect to break an axle. Took what weapons he could, torched the rest with the disabled truck. Guns n ammo is heavy stuff.


52 posted on 02/10/2013 5:11:19 PM PST by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; ...
What's new this week is the Justice Depertment memo clearing the way for drones to kill Americans (not just illegally spy on them).

Two days later, we have our first target.

What timing!

Indeed.

This Explains EVERYTHING

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

53 posted on 02/10/2013 5:11:31 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; ...
What's new this week is the Justice Depertment memo clearing the way for drones to kill Americans (not just illegally spy on them).

Two days later, we have our first target.

What timing!

Indeed.

This Explains EVERYTHING

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

54 posted on 02/10/2013 5:12:36 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

What an effective plot to open the door to using drones in major metropolitan areas in the U.S. every day of the year, for the rest of time.. “To find criminals”. Almost as effective as Sandy Hook for overturning the Second Amendment.


55 posted on 02/10/2013 5:13:31 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

My guess is he is holed up somewhere either dying of dead from the elements.


56 posted on 02/10/2013 5:14:23 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Salamander
Drones with FLIR capability changes everything. Everybody will stand out like neon lights in the darkness, no matter how well camouflaged they are.

Camouflage is just blending in to your surroundings. If you appear as a neon light, your surroundings should too.

57 posted on 02/10/2013 5:14:41 PM PST by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

I don’t think he’s a genius. His “manifesto” makes it pretty clear, the dude’s a pop-culture obsessed loser with the depth of a shallow puddle.

I just think he planned this out well in advance. And the fact that he’s an Ellen DeGeneres-watching fatass doesn’t mean he’s not cunning. Animals can be very cunning... so can a delusional self-absorbed douche bag like Rambro.


58 posted on 02/10/2013 5:15:23 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: AlexW
I am quite happy to no longer be in the new USSA.

So are we....yet you still cash you SSA checks.

Good riddance.

59 posted on 02/10/2013 5:18:05 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: yarddog

Rambro doesn’t like the cold or snow. You can bet he’s laying low in LA and has people hiding and taking care of him


60 posted on 02/10/2013 5:21:16 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

How many innocents have been shot by the stormtroopers so far? I wonder if the drones would have more success in finding and isolating the target (assuming that is the target).


61 posted on 02/10/2013 5:22:29 PM PST by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: Ax

No, I don’t. I just called you on another Saudi story, it went to voicemail..


62 posted on 02/10/2013 5:23:27 PM PST by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: jwalsh07
He’s not a soldier, he’s never been a soldier and he never will be a soldier. A1

Yeah, he's a soldier, he's just not on the right team.

Watch and learn his tactics, they're indeed an education and ones we might need to utilize one day.

That is....if FReedom fighters ever rise up when the Government attempts to.....

P.S. Think about it before you flame.....

63 posted on 02/10/2013 5:23:41 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: jimbo123

I remember when the beltway shooters were going about killing people, everyone here on FR (including me) was trying to figure out what brilliant way they were operating.

It turned out they were a couple of dummies who were basically just lucky until they got caught. I did think the hole in the trunk of an old junker was a good idea if you were a killer just trying to murder people.


64 posted on 02/10/2013 5:27:58 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I don’t think he’s a genius. His “manifesto” makes it pretty clear, the dude’s a pop-culture obsessed loser with the depth of a shallow puddle.

Dunno, you may be correct...psy ops, disinformation and deception are powerful weapons.

Ever see the movie "The Recruit"?

65 posted on 02/10/2013 5:30:57 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Sarah Barracuda is onto something. I’m amazed at the low level hidden interest in the minds of many that hope he can trip the system and get out of the game alive. There isn’t a lot of web sympathy for the LAPD as some people it appears think that there is some justification for his behaviour. This may not play out as the Drones backers hope.


66 posted on 02/10/2013 5:33:45 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: yarddog

Exactly. Everyone wants to give this guy credit for being so smart but everyone knows blacks don’t like cold or snow. Especially narcissistic ones like this guy who wants to see himself on TV and online. He’s not hiding out in the mountains.


67 posted on 02/10/2013 5:35:19 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Good riddance.”
________________________________

My my, getting a bit touchy over there in Obozoland.
I feel your pain. Try some good Tennessee whiskey.


68 posted on 02/10/2013 5:36:54 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Las Vegas Ron

You need to read or reread the “Soldiers Creed”. Streetsmart murdering prick does not a soldier make.


69 posted on 02/10/2013 5:38:17 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: rovenstinez

The left has treated this guy like a hero..I want to see these scumbags tell the victims families that Dorner is their “Hero” guess killers bring the cockroaches out of the woodwork and they get a fan base. I would not be surprised at all if Dorner is getting help from leftist loons who see him as some kind of revenge killing hero seeking justice from the bad bad LAPD


70 posted on 02/10/2013 5:38:30 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Yeah, I am not conspiracy-minded, but this is too convenient.


71 posted on 02/10/2013 5:40:09 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: null and void

Please add me to your list. Nut-job conspiracy theories are now mainstream.

“When things get weird, the weird go pro!”


72 posted on 02/10/2013 5:43:04 PM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

He is NAVY, not ARMY, why are they calling him a soldier???


73 posted on 02/10/2013 5:44:30 PM PST by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
He is accomplishing his goals.
Muddled as they are.

Don't think they will take him alive but, what a circus if they do.

74 posted on 02/10/2013 5:45:00 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’m allergic to Colin Farrell. But I know of the movie and have a general idea what it’s about.

I’m still somewhat agnostic on this Rambro situation. But I don’t put anything past anyone anymore... not in this mad world.


75 posted on 02/10/2013 5:49:52 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: RaceBannon
Lazy convenience is the specialty of today's reporters.
They throw hand grenades because accuracy does not matter any more.
76 posted on 02/10/2013 5:49:52 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: jwalsh07
You need to read or reread the “Soldiers Creed”. Streetsmart murdering prick does not a soldier make.

You need to reread my comment.

Many men are die hard soldiers, they just die and kill for different causes.

Never under estimate a man who is trained and fighting for his cause, the one who wins is the one who is willing to inflict the most pain.

Whether it is right or wrong, is in the winners purview....it is what wars settle.

77 posted on 02/10/2013 5:51:39 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: cripplecreek

Some pressure i imagine to finish this by tuesday


78 posted on 02/10/2013 5:53:53 PM PST by Therapsid (Communism has killed 50-60 Million people in only 50 yrs.)
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To: RaceBannon

Same reason they call a 10/22 an AK-47. Because it’s the press, and they’re no good at what they do.

The title of the article even blows it. It says he killed the Chief’s daughter. It was a former captain’s daughter.


79 posted on 02/10/2013 5:55:13 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: jimbo123

“Rambro doesn’t like the cold or snow. You can bet he’s laying low in LA and has people hiding and taking care of him”

He went to college in Cedar City Utah, and owns property in Vegas.

Vegas is a metro area of a million population, but Cedar City is a few thousand.

First he has to/had to get away from Big Bear.

Very difficult to disguise that big brown bald body.

But he has indicated he expects to die, so he maybe most interested in reaching his next shootout spree.


80 posted on 02/10/2013 5:55:32 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: cripplecreek

Some pressure i imagine to finish this by tuesday


81 posted on 02/10/2013 5:59:30 PM PST by Therapsid (Communism has killed 50-60 Million people in only 50 yrs.)
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To: AlexW
My my, getting a bit touchy over there in Obozoland. I feel your pain. Try some good Tennessee whiskey.

Enjoy your SSA check from the fellow tax payers and Country you deserted and now criticize and laugh at.

82 posted on 02/10/2013 5:59:30 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: cripplecreek

Some pressure i imagine to finish this by tuesday


83 posted on 02/10/2013 5:59:44 PM PST by Therapsid (Communism has killed 50-60 Million people in only 50 yrs.)
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To: headsonpikes
Please add me to your list.

No.

You need to follow the instructions to get on the list.

84 posted on 02/10/2013 6:00:07 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I’m still somewhat agnostic on this Rambro situation. But I don’t put anything past anyone anymore... not in this mad world.

Same here.....

85 posted on 02/10/2013 6:02:59 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: gaijin
Crime doesn't pay.

Tax payers do.

86 posted on 02/10/2013 6:04:23 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: SatinDoll
He is more than halfway across the nation, possibly crossing the Mississippi River yesterday.

Nope. He's in Arkansas around Fayetteville in the Beaver Lake area.

87 posted on 02/10/2013 6:12:57 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: jimbo123

“Rambro doesn’t like the cold or snow. You can bet he’s laying low in LA and has people hiding and taking care of him”

He went to college in Cedar City Utah, and owns property in Vegas.

Vegas is a metro area of a million population, but Cedar City is a few thousand.

First he has to/had to get away from Big Bear.

Very difficult to disguise that big brown bald body.

But he has indicated he expects to die, so he maybe most interested in reaching his next shootout spree.

What more appropriate way to die, than back in LA?


88 posted on 02/10/2013 6:16:15 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Idiots. He wasn’t a soldier, he was a sailor. Has any journalist of this generation spent even a day in uniform?


89 posted on 02/10/2013 6:17:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: RaceBannon

As a former Navy Reservist myself, I’m only too happy that they keep referring to him as a “soldier.”


90 posted on 02/10/2013 6:17:41 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: AlexW

Charming scenario, isn’t it.


91 posted on 02/10/2013 6:20:14 PM PST by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Enjoy your SSA check from the fellow tax payers and Country you deserted and now criticize and laugh at.”
__________________________________________

Well, gee, where did all that SS money that I paid in go to?
I guess it is to fund YOUR retirement?
I do not laugh at MY country, but I do criticize the 50+% that seem to lust for a Marxist/Leninist society.
The America that I grew up in has my repect, but the Obamination does not deserve any respect.
By the way, are you as critical of the founding fathers as you are of me? Did they not leave their home countries?
Think about it.


92 posted on 02/10/2013 6:21:47 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Washi
Sadly, you couldn't be more wrong.

The "IR" stands for infra-red.

You will glow like a hot coal on camera.

93 posted on 02/10/2013 6:24:14 PM PST by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: ctdonath2
Took what weapons he could, torched the rest with the disabled truck.

Why did he set fire to the truck? As I understand, it was on some forestry road; those are 1-lane (at best) and nobody drives there without need. He could have left the truck without burning it, and then nobody would know that it's his truck - not for days, if not for weeks.

Why would he set up a base on a mountain, in a place where strangers stand out and where you have only a few easily blockable roads? A place that requires either assistance or frequent trips to cities to obtain food. A place where he is not a typical person around. That would make no sense.

It does sound, though, improbable that he intentionally drove his truck up there, intentionally left some of his stuff, intentionally broke the axle (how do you do that on demand?) and then disappeared into nowhere. Most of this stuff doesn't help him at all. I must surmise it was an accident, and his plan B failed just like the plan A. Now he is on plan C, hoofing it through a foot of snow on terrain that is inhospitable even in a warmer season. The Occam's Razor tells me that Mr. Dorner is not as smart as he claimed; he is probably laying dead in some ravine, with broken neck from a fall. His tracks and his body are covered with fresh snow, and by spring there will be nothing left to recover. Coyotes will tear his skeleton apart and carry each bone far away; the buzzards will do the same with whatever they can lift. The animals are probably already busy. He may never be found.

94 posted on 02/10/2013 6:32:58 PM PST by Greysard
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To: null and void

It’s getting to the point that NOT believing in wingnut conspiracies means that a person is crazy.


95 posted on 02/10/2013 6:35:22 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

“The thermal imaging cameras the drones use may be our only hope of finding him. On the ground, it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.”

While there is a lot of totally justified drone paranoia in the public after all of the terrorist zapping publicity, situations like this rogue cop on the rampage or a kidnapped or lost child in the woods will inevitably result in acceptance of drones as a “new normal” for the police to deploy...for better or worse depending on the patriotism of those giving the orders.


96 posted on 02/10/2013 6:40:44 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: AlexW
By the way, are you as critical of the founding fathers as you are of me? Did they not leave their home countries?

Bingo, you just revealed what you are.

May your post stand for all to see.

97 posted on 02/10/2013 6:44:05 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: xrmusn

From looking at the service record that has been made public it appears that he failed out of flight training, then went into the reserves as an intel officer. The units he were in were riverine groups not special boat units. My guess is that he never attended SERE.


98 posted on 02/10/2013 6:45:04 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I’m sure someone already said it up thread but “no crisis going to waste.’

We’ve crossed the rubicon.


99 posted on 02/10/2013 6:45:24 PM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the Terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
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To: yarddog

The Beltway snipers probably could have remained at large if they hadn’t tried a stupid extortion scheme with a stolen credit card. Had they destroyed the Bushmaster there wouldn’t have been any direct evidence to connect them to the murders.


100 posted on 02/10/2013 6:46:16 PM PST by LiveFree99
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