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Is China Mobilizing For A War With Japan?
Zero Hedge ^

Posted on 02/10/2013 6:36:14 PM PST by Perdogg

We don't know if it merely a coincidence that a story has emerged discussing a Chinese mobilization in response to the ongoing territorial feud with Japan over the Diaoyu/Senkaku islands (and the proximal massive gas field) the very week that China celebrates its new year (and days after news that a Chinese warship was very close to firing on a Japanese destroyer). We don't know how much of the story is based in reality, and how much may be propaganda or furthering someone's agenda. What we do know is that the source of the story: offshore-based, Falun Gong-affiliated NTDTV has historically been a credible source of information that the China communist party desperately tries to censor, such as breaking the news of the SARS epidemic in 2003 some three weeks before China publicly admitted it. Its motto is "to bring truthful and uncensored information into and out of China." If that is indeed the case, and its story of major troop movements and mobilization of various types of military vehicles and artillery into the Fujian and Zhejian provinces, bordering the East China Sea and closest to the Diaoyu islands, is accurate, then hostilities between China and Japan may be about to take a major turn for the worse.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; japan; war
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To: castlegreyskull

The Norks are trying to perfect their very primitive nuclear technology. Right now, North Korea would have a hard time striking any country successfully beyond South Korea. The better their weapons get, the more countries they can threaten, and the more damage they can do.

21 posted on 02/10/2013 7:44:17 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Perdogg


Isn’t that where two opposing forces are fighting?

China’s next move will be to squash and control Taiwan.

The U.S. will do nothing.

22 posted on 02/10/2013 7:44:50 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: castlegreyskull

I’m not sure I understand the question. Historically, the European African wars have mostly been the opposite of costly (at least for the Europeans), as they colonized the the continent, and tapped into its vast resources. The costly wars have been Europeans putting down African unrest, and then after independence, getting involved in humanitarian efforts, which have been extremely costly.

Are you wondering whether China will pay a heavy cost if it attacks Japan, in light of its great wealth? Well, this depends a lot on whether they win. As I understand, these islands have a vast gas reserve underneath them, and the political capital for the Chinese government in the event of a victory would be incalculable.
If they lose however (which is very possible because Japan is under US treaty protection), the costs would be enormous. China would have lost yet another war, further eroding their military record, the regime would suffer further illegitimacy, and the financial cost of the Chinese navy would be very large I’m sure. Remember, when Argentina lost a war over some resource-rich islands, the military junta collapsed almost overnight. People don’t like it when they lose wars.

23 posted on 02/10/2013 7:54:13 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Nowhere Man
I understand where you’re coming from and I’m a believer in karma but if Red China beats up on Japan, the world would be worse off. We cannot judge the geopolitical situation of 2013 by 1931 standards. Japan is a horse of a different color now and a strong ally.

The Chinese aren't exactly choir boys - every change of dynasty in China involved the deaths of tens of millions, many executed the old-fashioned way, with edged weapons during post-siege massacres. And then there's this account of the Chinese treatment of the Dzungars, during which they were more or less exterminated:

According to Qing scholar Wei Yuan, 40% of the 600,000 Zunghar people were killed by smallpox, 20% fled to Russia or sought refuge among the Kazakh tribes, and 30% were killed by the army.[11][12] Clarke has argued that the Qing campaign in 1757-58 "amounted to the complete destruction of not only the Zunghar state but of the Zunghars as a people."[13] Historian Peter Perdue has attributed the decimation of the Dzungars to a "deliberate use of massacre" and has described it as an "ethnic genocide".[12] Mark Levene, a historian whose recent research interests focus on genocide,[14] has stated that the extermination of the Dzungars was "arguably the eighteenth century genocide par excellence."

24 posted on 02/10/2013 8:06:08 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Perdogg

The Chinese are building cities inland, hundreds of miles from the coast. They are stockpiling tons of rice. They are being provocative around those Jap Islands.

There are a ton of reasons why they might be doing all of this. Not many of them are good.

25 posted on 02/10/2013 8:06:37 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Zhang Fei

Let’s not forget that the current commie regime in China is responsible for more deaths than any other in history. More than Adolf and Uncle Joe. These people are godless monsters.

26 posted on 02/10/2013 8:11:27 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

I think China will lose any war with Japan. I think Japan has so much up its sleeves we would be astonished. At the same time we would help and fight it as well.

About an African war, I just meant, and I am not well read on it, it seems a lot of Europe’s (Britain’s) have been drained in Africa fighting uprising (Zulu, Mahdist wars).

At the same time, I think if we want to fight China we need to destroy their African farm’s/ranches/mines.

27 posted on 02/10/2013 8:28:06 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: CondorFlight

And if the chi-coms invade Taiwan obammy will not receive the call just like Bengazi.
Sorry he was once again at the male bath house with reggie love.

28 posted on 02/11/2013 2:48:30 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((fubo))
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To: jongaltsr; Perdogg
After what the Japs did to the Chinks during WWII - Turn around is fair play.

Is it now? The generation of Japanese who fought in WWII is 90%+ gone. Any Japanese who was born prior to the end of the war will be at least 68 years old this year.

Yeah, that's fair play. Punish all those people who had absolutely nothing to do with The Rape of Nanking. That'll teach to be more careful who they pick for parents.

29 posted on 02/11/2013 6:47:21 AM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? NRA Life Member])
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To: rmh47

Wanta bet? I lay you whatever odds you want that the Chinese still remember what the Japs did to their parents and their country during WWII and would love to take some level of revenge. (Remember the injections of various drugs, viruses, bacteria into subjects and see who dies first when they are stripped naked and placed in a cell at well below freezing? Lay you odds that EVERY Chinese child has heard those stories.

Doubt on the other that that the Japanese would feel the same.

30 posted on 02/11/2013 5:11:06 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: Perdogg

The best part about China vs Japan is the end of the BS Free Trade fiasco. Can’t wait until a Nip sub sinks the first Chink Container Ship.

31 posted on 02/11/2013 5:18:43 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: jongaltsr
Of course the Chinese remember. How could they not remember? The whole world should remember, including the Japanese. And, where, exactly did I say the Chinese did or could or would not remember?

What I question is the comment that "turnaround is fair play," and for the reasons I stated.

32 posted on 02/11/2013 11:48:06 PM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? NRA Life Member])
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To: CondorFlight

I have many good friends in Taiwan. Asking for prayers for the people there...

33 posted on 02/12/2013 12:00:18 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Don Corleone

Or just the rape of Nanking.

34 posted on 02/12/2013 12:01:22 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Viennacon
The Royal Navy is trying to get the outboard started on their last remaining troop transport, but they might have to wait for replacement parts from Mercury.

35 posted on 02/12/2013 12:09:46 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Molon Labe!)
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To: rmh47

The Chinese would call it “Turn around is Fair Play” as they have not forgotten the massive experiments perpetrated on thousands of their family members, to see what accelerate death.

36 posted on 02/13/2013 6:26:44 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: rmh47

Post Script. They also killed thousands of captured G.I.s and were NEVER held accountable.

37 posted on 02/13/2013 6:28:40 PM PST by jongaltsr
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