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Administration’s New Climate Report: Next Ice Age ‘Has Now Been Delayed Indefinitely’
CNSnews.com ^ | 8FEB2013 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 02/10/2013 8:47:59 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine

(CNSNews.com) - A federal advisory committee appointed by the Obama administration to produce a report on climate change says that if Earth’s climate were still “primarily controlled by natural factors”—rather than by man-made global warming—then the next ice age would occur within the next 1,500 years.

But now, because of humans, the committee says, the next ice age has been "delayed indefinitely."

“Confirmation of what are called Milankovich cycles (cyclical changes in the Earth’s orbit that explain the onset and ending of ice ages) led a few scientists in the 1970s to suggest that the current warm interglacial period might be ending soon, plunging the Earth into a new ice age over the next few centuries,” the advisory committee said in a draft report released last month.

“Scientists continue to study this issue today; the latest information suggests that, if the Earth’s climate were being controlled primarily by natural factors, the next glaciation would begin sometime in the next 1,500 years,” says the report. “However, humans have so altered the composition of the atmosphere that the next glaciation has now been delayed indefinitely.”

The U.S. Commerce Department created the National Climate Assessment and Development Advisory Committee in December 2010. In May 2011, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Administrator Jane Lubchenco named its governing panel. The committee was charged with developing a new National Climate Assessment report, following up on two previous reports published in 2000 and 2009.

In January, the advisory committee released an 1,146-page draft report so the public could review it and comment on it.

The statement that the next Ice Age had been indefinitely postponed came in a set of questions and answers appended to the end of the draft report. The question posed was: “What about global cooling predictions in the 1970s?”

The answer provided by the draft report blames the hyping of an impending “ice age” on the “popular press.”

“An enduring myth about climate science is that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting ‘global cooling’ and an ‘imminent; ice age,” it says.

“Where did all the discussion about global cooling come from?” it asks.

“First, temperature records from about 1940 to 1970 show a slight global cooling trend, intensified by temporary increases in snow and ice cover across the Northern Hemisphere," it says. "Unusually severe winters in Asia and parts of North America in 1972 and 1973 raised people’s concerns about cold weather. The popular press, including Time, Newsweek, and The New York Times, carried a number of articles about the cooling climate at that time.”

The report says average U.S. temperatures have increased 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit since 1895, but will increase anywhere from 3 degrees Fahrenheit to 10 degrees Faherenheit by the end of this century depending on future human activity.

“The amount of warming by the end of the century is projected to correspond closely to the cumulative global emissions of greenhouse gases up to that time: roughly 3°F to 5°F under a lower emissions scenario involving substantial reductions in emissions after 2050 (referred to as the 'B1 scenario'), and 5°F to 10°F for a higher emissions scenario assuming continued increases in emissions (referred to as the 'A2 scenario'),” says the draft.

The report claims the planet will be a cooler place if the nations of the world create a “scenario” where there are fewer people born and fewer emissions of fossil fuels.

“At the lower end of the range,” it says, “the B1 scenario represents a world with lower population growth, higher economic development, a shift to low-emitting efficient energy technologies that are diffused rapidly around the world through free trade, and other conditions that reduce the rate and magnitude of changes in climate averages and extremes as well as increased capacity for adaptation.”


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; delayed; godsgravesglyphs; iceage; indefinitely; over
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1 posted on 02/10/2013 8:48:05 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Jack Hydrazine

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/bull.wav


2 posted on 02/10/2013 8:50:34 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

These bozos can’t forecast what the cost of ObamaCare really is. How the heck are they credible forecasting ice ages, for Pete’s sake!!


3 posted on 02/10/2013 8:51:23 PM PST by llevrok (Unlike Obama, at least Nero could play a fiddle.)
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To: BenLurkin

To even question the above “findings” would be anti-scientific, according to today’s scientists, without any hint of irony in their proclamations.


4 posted on 02/10/2013 8:51:58 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine


5 posted on 02/10/2013 8:52:29 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: llevrok

Just good old plain hubris to think that mankind can stop the Earth from doing its thing.


6 posted on 02/10/2013 8:55:46 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Nachum

How convenient.


7 posted on 02/10/2013 8:57:30 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Wishful thinking (and an argument in favor of making efforts to actually cause some anthropogenic global warming): a new ice age would be far more catastrophic to civilization than a 4 degree celsius rise in mean global temperature.

Inasmuch as the climactic record is consistent with a sudden shift from warm conditions to ice age conditions over the timescale of a decade, I wouldn’t be entirely shocked were most of us posting here to live to see the start of the next ice age.


8 posted on 02/10/2013 9:00:35 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: llevrok

Speaking of ice ages, there have been numerous ice ages in earth’s history.

During one ice age, Chicago was buried under a mile of ice.

Yet, somehow, the earth warmed before we had SUVs and coal fired power plants. The enviro-extremists never can explain these natural warming cycles which had nothing to do with man made global warming.


9 posted on 02/10/2013 9:02:16 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It wasn’t just the “popular press” pushing the idea of an impending ice age. I walked in on the end of a science class at my college where the prof was pushing the idea in 1970. They were blaming industrialization then, as well.


10 posted on 02/10/2013 9:02:23 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: llevrok

Speaking of ice ages, there have been numerous ice ages in earth’s history.

During one ice age, Chicago was buried under a mile of ice.

Yet, somehow, the earth warmed before we had SUVs and coal fired power plants. The enviro-extremists never can explain these natural warming cycles which had nothing to do with man made global warming.


11 posted on 02/10/2013 9:02:33 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: The_Reader_David

Should be starting anytime now!


12 posted on 02/10/2013 9:03:01 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: llevrok

>>How the heck are they credible forecasting ice ages, for Pete’s sake!!<<

obozo did it by XO.


13 posted on 02/10/2013 9:03:55 PM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: the_Watchman

Yes I remember very well in the late ‘70’s. Climate scientist at that time thought increased industrial SO2 and TSP would lead to solar defection and a new ice age. They were wrong then, and they are wrong now. Vulcanism and Sun Cycles control it all. Not man.


14 posted on 02/10/2013 9:09:00 PM PST by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

There must be clowns ... don’t worry they’re here.


15 posted on 02/10/2013 9:10:55 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Soylent Green is Boomers)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Is this by decree? Do the pinheads have a pipeline to the All Mighty? Or is there some other form of irrefutable evidence?


16 posted on 02/10/2013 9:14:04 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: catfish1957

Just think of what would happen if you put your face into a car exhaust system and took many deep breaths. Now multiply that by all the cars on the planet. It makes one dizzy just thinking about it.

Where do I send my contribution?


17 posted on 02/10/2013 9:14:28 PM PST by shineon
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To: Sequoyah101

If this were the Middle Ages these clowns would be counting angels on the heads of pins.

New boss—same as the old boss.


18 posted on 02/10/2013 9:21:52 PM PST by cgbg (HLM--"Democracy is the theory that people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.")
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To: Jack Hydrazine

19 posted on 02/10/2013 9:24:16 PM PST by wyokostur
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The sadest part of the story is that California has totally bought into the climate change myth and has thoroughly institutionalized Agenda 21 efforts to reduce greenhouse gases in general planning, regional planning and regulation in housing and development, transportation, water management, timber management, agriculture, fish and wildlife management, healthcare and business. Like lemmings we are jumping off the fiscal and economic cliff following duped progressive bureaucrats and legislators.


20 posted on 02/10/2013 9:24:28 PM PST by marsh2
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To: shineon
Where do I send my contribution?

How about up your ass numb nuts.

21 posted on 02/10/2013 9:25:36 PM PST by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I can see the AP Headline now: “New Ice Age Unexpectedly Arrives!”


22 posted on 02/10/2013 9:26:38 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Sequoyah101

Aren’t you aware that Obama is Messiah and God to the Left? As far as they are concerned whatever he says is the truth.
http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/


23 posted on 02/10/2013 9:28:17 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

A Committee of Gods, who woulda thunk it?


24 posted on 02/10/2013 9:29:13 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: shineon
Cool your jets Mr. Catfish Hunter. If I send in anything at all, it will go right to freerepublic.com My bad for not using <sarc> tags.
25 posted on 02/10/2013 9:52:02 PM PST by shineon
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To: Jack Hydrazine; The_Reader_David; SunkenCiv; All

Can you tell us the source of your charts. I only see one identifier, the one for GISP 2, Greenland.

We may or may not have an ice age any time soon. The Younger Dryas which actually occurred when we seemed to be in the warming phase after the last ice age was likely caused by a major boloid event in the Northern Hemisphere. It is easy to see the signficant downturn after the eruption of Toba which left crater 18 by 65 miles. There was a drop after 22,000 years ago, when Sakara-Jima (Japan) blew and left the 15 mile diameter crater. Thus I think the most likely cause of another ice age will either be a super volcano or a very major extraterrestrial impact event. Unfortunately, those are somewhat hard to predict, except to say that at some point they will happen and kill millions if not billions of people.


26 posted on 02/10/2013 10:03:28 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Just good old plain hubris to think that mankind can stop the Earth from doing its thing.

The whole global climate change scam is sold based on the presumption that everything should stay the same, for the convenience of the individual.

There is no doubt that we affect the local ground temperature. The biggest contributors to local 'interference' with 'normal' temperatures are the giant heatsinks (parking lots, roads and highways), gas engined vehicles, and climate control systems (ACU, etc).

Other than that, the global climate is a complex mixture of effects from The various energies from the Sun, their effect on the Magnetic field of the Earth, the Jetstream (which is deflected by the Magnetic fields), and the results of uneven heating and cooling due to moisture in the air, changes in land topography, and probably some other factors we don't yet understand. Local variances may affect weather/climate locally, but that variance is only within parameters established by the effects beyond our control.

Bottom line, you are correct.

27 posted on 02/10/2013 10:07:09 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
The National Weather Service can't get my 5 day forecast right, but Al Gore and friends can tell me when we will/won't have the next ice age.

Maybe Algore should have kept current and went after the Weather channel audience with their new 1500 year forecasts!

28 posted on 02/10/2013 10:22:39 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: shineon; catfish1957
Just think of what would happen if you put your face into a car exhaust system and took many deep breaths. Now multiply that by all the cars on the planet. It makes one dizzy just thinking about it.

If that makes you dizzy, then this should cause you to pass out.

Breath another person's lung exhaust for a while. Multiply that by all the people on the planet.

29 posted on 02/10/2013 11:04:21 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: shineon

Since most cars today are very low on actual output of pollutants, it is not the CO2 that makes the difference, it is the HEAT generated and transferred to the air that helps to raise local temperatures, which affects local weather (but still it is a very small effect, and totally dependent on other factors way beyond our control.


30 posted on 02/10/2013 11:07:47 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: shineon

Amazing that it even needed a </sarcasm> tag.


31 posted on 02/10/2013 11:09:55 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“Next Ice Age ‘Has Now Been Delayed Indefinitely’”


That’s good because I can’t afford snow tires.


32 posted on 02/10/2013 11:13:20 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

[The U.S. Commerce Department created the National Climate Assessment and Development Advisory Committee in December 2010.]

The DOC is a useless appendage that long ago should have been pruned from this bloated government.


33 posted on 02/10/2013 11:17:20 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: llevrok

Obama caused the sea levels to recede and he has now stuffed old man winter into a cage.

Next, he will solve the Middle East problem.

What a wiz he iz.


34 posted on 02/10/2013 11:18:13 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2
What will we do with all the Bi-Polar bears? Certainly, expect an epidemic.

More polar bears alive today than 40 years ago


35 posted on 02/10/2013 11:25:59 PM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

idiots.....we are already descending into another ice age


36 posted on 02/10/2013 11:40:32 PM PST by Nifster
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Awesome, the government proclaiming ice ages indefinitely postponed absolutely guarantees that by next year most of North America will be beneath 2 miles of ice (caused by global warming of course).


37 posted on 02/10/2013 11:52:05 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

38 posted on 02/11/2013 12:44:55 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Let’s see if this gets referenced in his STOU *inaugural”.


39 posted on 02/11/2013 1:14:57 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
People are just plain stupid to believe anything the Government tells them.
And some of those people vote.
40 posted on 02/11/2013 1:36:24 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: Jack Hydrazine

These morons couldn’t embarrass thrmselves to any greater degree even if they started showing up for work in pink pinafores and purple scrunchies.


41 posted on 02/11/2013 1:48:13 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: the_Watchman
They were blaming industrialization then, as well.

To the democrats/socialists in the media and government it is always the fault of industry/capitalism/freedom. That idiots don't see what they are doing is beyond me.

the government provided trillion$ in grants to fund a hoax called global warming. This alone proves government/socialism doesn't work.

so they tried global cooling for a generation blame that on capitalism

then the next generation scare the population with global warming hoax. blame that on capitalism( big oil, coal, suvs). put guilt on Americans , terrorize them , tell them they and their capitalism is destroying the planet with global warming, that the ice caps are melting . and the sheep believe the lies. so they cry “we ought to do something” . then the media and government do something to take away our rights and freedoms, they ban bulbs etc. so now the earth is cooling so they change the name of global warming to “climate change” so now any change is blamed on capitalism .

42 posted on 02/11/2013 2:38:16 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Tell that to the folks in the northest who have been digging out from the most recent blizzard!


43 posted on 02/11/2013 2:42:21 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
‘Has Now Been Delayed Indefinitely’

Prove it.

44 posted on 02/11/2013 2:56:02 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

What a waste of taxpayer $$$$. These people make me sick. I hope EPA is a sequestration target. Dismiss these stupid committees and advisory counsels. Honestly.


45 posted on 02/11/2013 3:04:05 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: gleeaikin

“Can you tell us the source of your charts. I only see one identifier, the one for GISP 2, Greenland.”

I think I found most of those at www.iceagenow.info or www.wattsupwiththat.com.

“Unfortunately, those are somewhat hard to predict, except to say that at some point they will happen and kill millions if not billions of people.”

But ice ages do happen about every 100,000 years.


46 posted on 02/11/2013 3:48:00 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: UCANSEE2

lol


47 posted on 02/11/2013 3:58:25 AM PST by Rennes Templar (Business owners work harder! You have to support millions.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It must have gotten stuck in the same Senate committee that has yet to pass a budget to the Senate as a whole.


48 posted on 02/11/2013 5:28:32 AM PST by Pecos (If more sane people carried guns, fewer crazies would get off a second shot.)
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To: The_Reader_David

Where I live, the ice used to be at least 1,000 feet or more thick. I would rather have to be concerned about alligators in the swamp behind my house that have this kind of ice return.


49 posted on 02/11/2013 5:30:14 AM PST by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: gleeaikin

“The Younger Dryas which actually occurred when we seemed to be in the warming phase after the last ice age was likely caused by a major boloid event in the Northern Hemisphere.”

Furthering the same theory: the shock and heating of the ice sheet caused a huge chunk of ice over 1K thick and about the size of Greenland to slide off the ice sheet into the North Atlantic, blocking the Gulf Stream.


50 posted on 02/11/2013 6:32:53 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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