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Gun Control and the Constitution
Wall Street Journal ^ | February 10, 2013, 5:01 p.m. ET | David Rivkin & Andrew Grossman

Posted on 02/11/2013 11:44:24 AM PST by IndePundit

Could there be a better illustration of the cultural divide over firearms than the White House photograph of our skeet-shooting president? Clay pigeons are launched into the air, but the president's smoking shotgun is level with the ground. This is not a man who is comfortable around guns. And that goes a long way toward explaining his gun-control agenda.

Lack of informed presidential leadership aside, there is a gulf between those Americans who view guns as invaluable tools for self-defense, both against private wrongdoers and a potentially tyrannical government, and those who regard that concept as hopelessly archaic and even subversive. For them, hunting is the only possible legitimate use of firearms, and gun ownership should be restricted to weapons suited to that purpose.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; guncontrol; secondamendment
This article brings it all back into perspective. The government's duty is to protect the rights documented in the Constitution. Obama and his administration cannot take away our rights simply to make a point. The government needs ensure that the rights of the American people remain consistent even in times of political turmoil. That my friends is the foundation of America. Lets hope others begin to realize this soon.
1 posted on 02/11/2013 11:44:29 AM PST by IndePundit
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To: IndePundit
Actual title: Gun Control and the Constitution

I wonder how it got changed like that?

Odd.

2 posted on 02/11/2013 11:47:10 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: IndePundit

Speaking of the Constitution: If we can limit the number of rounds in a firearm magazine, we can limit the number of pages in a Hustler magazine. The same specious utilitarian logic that applies to the first also applies to the second.


3 posted on 02/11/2013 11:48:27 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: IndePundit

obummer swore to uphold the Constitution. He thinks it is a pie that can be cut into pieces and devoured. Well the Bum Clown deserves a pie in the face, the whole pie.


4 posted on 02/11/2013 11:49:33 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Marchione.)
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To: IndePundit

In order to avoid unnecessary duplicates, always please use the proper headline. In order to help others find duplicates, always please use the actual published date.


5 posted on 02/11/2013 11:52:28 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: IndePundit

Sounds like they got suckered by the Photoshopped picture.


6 posted on 02/11/2013 11:54:55 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Of the government, by the government, and for the government.)
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To: IndePundit
“. . . Obama and his administration cannot take away our rights simply to make a point. . .”

The US Constitution is nothing more and nothing less that an obstruction to the “statist utopia” these socialist are pushing on every American and exactly who the moochers party wants!

Watch the socialist temper-tantrum along with the old media after the real conservatives puts the brakes on their so called “gun control” legislation. the US Constitution be damned, full steam ahead with disarming the American people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The leftist were embarrassed in front of their buddies in the UN when they could not get through a United Nations Small Arms control Treaty, so now, they are going to show their ilk in the UN they too can disarm these nasty and dangerous backwoods hicks of their firearms!!

Sit back and watch the fireworks my fellow Americans! It gets really good when the socialist are told “NO!”

Eight Deuce on the Loose!

7 posted on 02/11/2013 12:01:02 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN Div. 1/508th BN "Fury From the Sky")
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To: IndePundit

How can any law like registration, which turns a right into a regulated conditional privilege, be constitutional? Legitimate government interest or not, the government was NOT delegated the authority to infringe upon the RIGHT to keep and bare arms. This applies both to the federal government and to the States through the due process clause of the 14th Amendment.


8 posted on 02/11/2013 12:01:12 PM PST by marsh2
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To: theBuckwheat
If we can limit the number of rounds in a firearm magazine, we can limit the number of pages in a Hustler magazine.

I'm not sure if you just made that up, but it's brilliant. Especially in light of Falwell vs Flynt, and what the left thinks comprises free speech.
9 posted on 02/11/2013 12:01:46 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: humblegunner

People a lot smarter than Feinstein and Obama wrote the Constitution and gave Americans rights.

We are not going to let some feminist dipstick, and a Muslim ,,forged birth certificate bi-sexual ding dong who lies about being a Constitutional scholar take them away

They may think Americans are stupid , but we are smart enough to know that when they take away the 2nd Amendment they may as well scraap the whole thing.-—and they will.


10 posted on 02/11/2013 12:03:07 PM PST by Venturer
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To: bunkerhill7

>obummer swore to uphold the Constitution.<

.
Ever heard of taqqiya?


11 posted on 02/11/2013 12:06:29 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: bunkerhill7
Well the Bum Clown deserves a pie in the face, the whole pie.

Your choice of ordnance is suspect.

12 posted on 02/11/2013 12:11:08 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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To: IndePundit
Supreme Court's 2008 decision in Heller v. District of Columbia confirmed that the Second Amendment means what it says: "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Umm, no it didn't. Didn't Alito him self write that the State could have "common" sense restrictions?

Some one please correct me if I'm wrong.

13 posted on 02/11/2013 12:12:29 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: IndePundit

Obama doesn’t care a rat’s posterior about the Constitution...it’s all about absolute government power and control. As for the SCOTUS decisions, Obama is just one justice appointment away from getting anything he wants. Roberts is willing to use clever sophistry to twist the Constitution and the Obama appointees would just as soon use UN tribunals as the US courts.


14 posted on 02/11/2013 12:17:26 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: humblegunner

The current gun control proposals are the 21st Century version of the Poll Tax. Don’t want a certain demographic voting, tax and regulate the voting process. Don’t want a certain demographic owning firearms, tax and regulate them so that they are unaffordable.


15 posted on 02/11/2013 12:19:35 PM PST by Conservative_Rob
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To: Venturer
Not to nit pick, but the Founders wrote the Constitution to recognize Americans have God given rights and instituted a Government charged with protecting those rights and prohibited them from abridging them.

It's an important distinction.

16 posted on 02/11/2013 12:25:24 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: The Great RJ

most JUDGES don’t care about the constitution and SPECIFICALLY the second amendment.

Judges HATE HATE HATE the first amendment when it comes to recalling judges. They disguise it as “judicial independence” when they are really selling judicial tyrany.


17 posted on 02/11/2013 1:00:24 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: theBuckwheat
If we can limit the number of rounds in a firearm magazine, we can limit the number of pages in a Hustler magazine.

...we can limit the days on which non-whites are free and can enjoy "low capacity" civil rights.
...we can limit the number of times women can vote.
...we can tax Qurans to limit their distribution.
...we can require Mosques to get a "permit" for "hi-capacity" morning prayers.
...we can limit the number of gay couples a church can marry.
...we can limit the number of abortions a woman can have.
...we can make Citizens get a "Privacy Permit" in order to exercise their 4th Amendment Rights.

etcetora, etcetora, etcetora.

NONE of these the Left would ever dare endorse. It's always the 2nd Amendment they attack with zeal.

18 posted on 02/11/2013 1:08:45 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: IndePundit

2nd Amendment bump for later......


19 posted on 02/11/2013 1:35:29 PM PST by indthkr
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To: Venturer
People a lot smarter than Feinstein and Obama wrote the Constitution and gave Americans rights.

No our rights were given to us by God - the Government is NOT the source of our rights. The Constitution is one of NEGATIVE RIGHTS telling the Government what they CANNOT do.
20 posted on 02/11/2013 2:00:14 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; Cheerio

IMO God gave us Freedom. Liberty and a Free will

The Founders gave us the right to protect that freedom Liberty and Free Will with Arms.


21 posted on 02/11/2013 3:28:12 PM PST by Venturer
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To: SpaceBar

Yes, I came up with it to bounce the Second, which the left hates against the reasons they love the First, which is rooted in their libertine lifestyle. Liberals are not friends to truth. There is no truth in them. And for that reason they do not love the First for the same reason that I do. They do not seek to protect and advance the First for the same reasons that I do. They have a higher authority than Truth and that is The Agenda. The Agenda is more important than Truth. The instant that something the First would protect gets in the way of the Agenda, liberals will strike the First down just as they seek to strike the Second. But for the present, the First is sacred, and that is why I phrased my soundbite that way.


22 posted on 02/11/2013 3:41:55 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Venturer
The Founders gave us the right to protect that freedom Liberty and Free Will with Arms.

No one gives us rights but God.

The US Government was put in place to protect those rights and they were prohibited from violating them.

Pedantic?

Maybe.

Essential understanding, definitely.

23 posted on 02/11/2013 4:14:58 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: IndePundit

Disappointingly, this appears to concede the Universal Background Check (see tagline).


24 posted on 02/11/2013 4:29:42 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Externination)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

... No one gives us rights but God.

The US Government was put in place to protect those rights and they were prohibited from violating them....

And,

there is a process in place for an acceptable process for change to the Constitution. It is a changeable document, within the rules. The left just does not want to play by the rules they swore to uphold. I have an idea, you break your oath and advocate an issue that is found to be unconstitutional, you lose. No impeachment, no hearings, no waiting. Immediate forfeiture of position, salary, office and all the gold plated benefits that come with the job. Everything, no insurance, no retirement package, no security detail, nothing. There needs to be consequences for breaking your oath, personal consequences. Hit them in their own pocketbook.


25 posted on 02/11/2013 5:22:50 PM PST by pack29172 (Just remember, when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away...)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Justice Scalia wrote the Opinion of the Court in the Heller case; that opinion clearly stated that the banning of an entire class of firearms (specifically handguns) was prohibited by the 2nd; two years later the 2nd was incorporated into the 14th Amendment Due Process Clause and applied to the states in the case McDonald v. Chicago. You can find both opinions at the Cornell Legal Information Institute; Here's the link to McDonald
26 posted on 02/11/2013 5:47:38 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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