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Who Will Be the Next Pope? Bookmakers Place Their Bets
TIME ^ | 02/12/2013 | Glen Levy

Posted on 02/11/2013 12:28:49 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Just hours after Pope Benedict XVI‘s surprising Feb. 28 resignation, bookmakers have already started placing odds on his successor.

Quickest off the mark was the Irish bookmaker Paddy Power, which has already gone through three favorites for the position, starting off with Nigerian Francis Arinze, before shifting to Ghanaian Cardinal Peter Turkson and then to Canadian Marc Ouellet — who at the time of this writing is the most favored option, with odds of 11 to 4. A rival bookie, Ladbrokes, currently has Turkson as the slight favorite at 3 to 1, followed by Arinze (7 to 2) and then Ouellet (4 to 1)

The 80-year-old Arinze is an Igbo Nigerian who spent 25 years in the Vatican and was once the world’s youngest bishop. The 64-year-old Turkson was appointed by the current Pope four years ago to become president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace — although he did spark controversy last year over a YouTube clip he screened at an international meeting of bishops on the rise of Islam in Europe. Ouellet is the Vatican’s main staff director, but unless he’s a master at political dissembling, the 68-year-old doesn’t seem to be actively pursuing the job. He has been quoted as saying that being Pontiff “would be a nightmare,” and told Quebec City’s Le Soleil newspaper that a pope’s duties “are perhaps not very enviable,” with the responsibilities “crushing.”

Media Relations Manager for Paddy Power, Feilim Mac An Iomaire, told TIME that the bookmaker had been prepared for Monday’s bombshell. “We’ve actually had betting on the next Pope for eight years, since Benedict was named,” he explains. “But now, the money has been absolutely flying in. We’re comfortably into five figures and that does have a massive effect on the odds.”

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KEYWORDS: benedict; bookmakers; next; papacy; pope; resignation; vatican
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1 posted on 02/11/2013 12:28:58 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Shame that we cannot start a rotisserie league.


2 posted on 02/11/2013 12:30:14 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: SeekAndFind

MORE BOOKMAKER TIDBITS:

Which country will the next Pope come from?

* current favorite is Italy at 6 to 4,

* any African country (2 to 1)

* anywhere in South or Central America (10 to 3).

* The United States, a long shot, comes in at 12 to 1.

* Cardinal Dolan has a 25 to 1 shot. See here:

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Could-Cardinal-Timothy-Dolan-from-New-York-be-the-first-American-pope-190653231.html

* A market has also been opened on what name the future Pontiff will take; Peter is the 2 to 1 favorite.


3 posted on 02/11/2013 12:31:34 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: 1rudeboy

FROM IRISH CENTRAL

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Could-Cardinal-Timothy-Dolan-from-New-York-be-the-first-American-pope-190653231.html

Could Cardinal Timothy Dolan from New York be the first American pope?

EXCERPT:

Could New York Cardinal Timothy Patrick Dolan be the next pope? He is definitely a legitimate contender, the first American one ever, according to Vatican insiders.

The odds may not be great (he’s 25/1 with Paddy Power) but he is known to be deeply popular in Vatican circles and could well be a surprise choice in a conclave where there is no obvious front runner.

Dolan would be a remarkable choice. He is very popular in New York (where, like the next pope, his predecessor is still living) and he has the worldwide reach that might make him a very popular candidate.

The oddsmakers still believe that the next pope is more likely to be African according to Paddy Power, Ireland’s leading bookmaker, who has come out with a list of “papabile,” those considered papal material.

Favorite is Cardinal Francis Arinze of Nigeria, who is 15/8 (bet eight to win fifteen), while in second place is Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana at 9/4.

That’s two top Africans in the top two spots according to the bookmaker’s odds.


4 posted on 02/11/2013 12:33:22 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; Condor51; KeyLargo

What are the odds on Father Flaky Fleuger? I might take some of that action just to agitate Fleuger!


5 posted on 02/11/2013 12:35:18 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Somebody tell Obama that he can’t make a recess appointment here either.


6 posted on 02/11/2013 12:36:27 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: SeekAndFind

I bet Obama is tempted to appoint himself to the position by executive order.


7 posted on 02/11/2013 12:36:50 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Legend has it that Pope Peter II will be the last pope.


8 posted on 02/11/2013 12:37:10 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: SeekAndFind
My guess (note the date of the post):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2370508/posts?page=10#10

9 posted on 02/11/2013 12:38:36 PM PST by Errant
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To: SeekAndFind

Guido Sarducci


10 posted on 02/11/2013 12:39:42 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: SeekAndFind; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

George Soros knows.


11 posted on 02/11/2013 12:40:29 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Sure, Father...that’s a fin on Arzine to win.”


12 posted on 02/11/2013 12:40:34 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe it will be Cardinal Number.


13 posted on 02/11/2013 12:40:48 PM PST by 1raider1
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To: OKRA2012

That would make the “Find the Pope In the Pizza” contest interesting.


14 posted on 02/11/2013 12:41:00 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

“Go in as a Pope, come out as a Cardinal.”


15 posted on 02/11/2013 12:42:27 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

There is a Cardinal Bob Dolan? Who knew?


16 posted on 02/11/2013 12:43:13 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 1raider1

Too bad Joey Bishop’s not around, he’d qualify!


17 posted on 02/11/2013 12:44:09 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hey! What am I? chopped liver? sign me up.


18 posted on 02/11/2013 12:47:33 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: OKRA2012

RE: Guido Sarducci

Who the heck is he? Is he even real?


19 posted on 02/11/2013 12:49:13 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: 1raider1

Cardinal Bird?


20 posted on 02/11/2013 12:49:28 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Errant

RE: My guess (note the date of the post):

Who is that black man pictured in that post of yours?


21 posted on 02/11/2013 12:50:31 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Revolting cat!

Too bad, we just lost the greatest Cardinal of them all, Stan “the Man” Musial.


22 posted on 02/11/2013 12:51:32 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind; a fool in paradise

If they allowed women I’d vote for Claudia Cardinale!


23 posted on 02/11/2013 12:51:53 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is going to be a loooong few weeks.


24 posted on 02/11/2013 12:52:34 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (If you want to ring the bell - you got to swing the hammer hard!)
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To: Revolting cat!

RE: If they allowed women I’d vote for Claudia Cardinale!

I was very tempted to post a picture, but refrained because I wanted this thread to be more respectful to Benedict.


25 posted on 02/11/2013 12:53:45 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
New name suggestions should also be made. Here's mine.

Pope Finis I

26 posted on 02/11/2013 12:54:25 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind
http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/documentazione/documents/cardinali_biografie/cardinali_bio_turkson_pka_en.html

Both Drudge and WND have articles about Cardinal Turkson being a candidate for the next pope.

27 posted on 02/11/2013 12:55:29 PM PST by Errant
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To: SeekAndFind

It will not be Barack Obama.

As the Messiah, he will be the one the new Pope reports to.


28 posted on 02/11/2013 12:59:16 PM PST by oldbill
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To: SeekAndFind

My money is on (in this order):

Scola

Ravasi

Oullet


29 posted on 02/11/2013 12:59:16 PM PST by Remole
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To: SeekAndFind

Chuck Norris.


30 posted on 02/11/2013 1:01:17 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: oldbill

Historically, all the guessers have been wrong. What is discussed in the closed meetings no one knows but one thing is for certain...no one knows.


31 posted on 02/11/2013 1:07:36 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Remole

RE: Scola

I concur with Scola. The Cardinals will follow tradition and select an Italian.

He was appointed Archbishop of Milan by Benedict on 28 June 2011.

He had previously served as Patriarch of Venice since 2002. He was elevated to the cardinalate in 2003.

He has the combination of proximity to the Vatican, Pastoral experience, Theological knowledge and reasonable age ( 71 years old ).


32 posted on 02/11/2013 1:10:28 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Which candidate is a muslim convert?


33 posted on 02/11/2013 1:14:22 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: OKRA2012

“Guido Sarducci”

Don’t you justa wish!


34 posted on 02/11/2013 1:14:25 PM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: SeekAndFind
Cardinals who enter the conclave as papabilli generally exit as Cardinals. The Holy Spirit has a mind of His own and most likely isn't very impressed with the bookies or their odds.

That said, I hope the next Pontiff is a non European. The Church is most vibrant in Africa and Asia. I'd like to see one of the bright lights leading the Church in those places ascend to the Throne of Peter...but the Holy Spirit isn't looking for guidance from me either.

35 posted on 02/11/2013 1:15:30 PM PST by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind
Father Guido Sarducci ought to be the next Pope-a
36 posted on 02/11/2013 1:15:43 PM PST by drypowder
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To: SeekAndFind

How about Dolan?


37 posted on 02/11/2013 1:16:08 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: SeekAndFind

Too bad Cardinal Sin from the Philippines died in ‘05.


38 posted on 02/11/2013 1:16:19 PM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Errant

RE: Both Drudge and WND have articles about Cardinal Turkson being a candidate for the next pope.

A Ghanian Pope? Why not?

He is only 64 years old and is the current president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace.

The only problem with him is this — I don’t know how the other traditional cardinals will view his stance on the use of condoms.

Turkson reaffirmed the Catholic social teaching on contraception, in regard to statements made by Pope Benedict that condoms were not a solution to Africa’s AIDS crisis and were taken out of context by the media.

However, and this is where some concern might arise -— Turkson did not rule out condoms in all circumstances suggesting they could be useful in the situation of a married, faithful couple where one partner is infected; although he warns that, as the quality of condoms in Africa is poor, their use could engender false confidence.

He said abstinence, fidelity, and refraining from sex if infected were the key to fighting the epidemic. He also believes that the money being spent on condoms would be better spent providing anti-retroviral drugs to those already infected.


39 posted on 02/11/2013 1:16:35 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: ex-snook

RE: How about Dolan?

Read Post #4 above.


40 posted on 02/11/2013 1:17:41 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: pgkdan
>> Cardinals who enter the conclave as papabilli generally exit as Cardinals. <<

That's what they kept saying when Cardinal Ratzinger was considered the "odds on favorite" -- he won't be picked because the Cardinals NEVER go with the front-runner, and there would be backlash because Ratzinger was JPII's right hand man and already doing the day-to-day duties. "He who enters the conclave as Pope, exits a Cardinal"

Oops.

41 posted on 02/11/2013 1:22:22 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The last pope to have a name not borne by any of his predecessors was Landus, elected in 913. The last one with a "II" after his name, other than John Paul II, was Marcellus II in 1555.

A couple of names with a long papal history which haven't been used for a while are Leo and Gregory. I don't know how much popes think about the previous holders of a name before selecting it--the last pope Leo was well-regarded but not so Leo X (elected 500 years ago in 1513). Maybe it helps if one or more earlier popes with that name was canonized.

There are some names which belonged to apostles which have never been used: Andrew, James, Philip, Thomas. There was an antipope Philip but he doesn't count.

Urban might be a good name, in honor of Urban II, who started the First Crusade, as a signal to Muslims...but since the Crusaders killed a lot of Jews too that name may be problematic.

I don't think anyone will use John again soon out of respect for John XXIII. I definitely would not expect any pope to pick Peter as a name.

42 posted on 02/11/2013 1:22:45 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks, But if Dolan can’t speak Italian, he’s probably a non-starter. Seems like Popes need to speak a bunch of languages.


43 posted on 02/11/2013 1:22:58 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: SeekAndFind

Something about the complete lack of decorum or good taste that goes with making this list makes me happy.


44 posted on 02/11/2013 1:24:36 PM PST by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So Cardinal Ouellet is a “staff director”?

Sheesh.

If there’s anything more futile and stupid than bookies handicapping conclaves, it’s the MSM’s pathetic attempts to sound informed and authoritative about anything connected to the Catholic Church.


45 posted on 02/11/2013 1:32:10 PM PST by Romulus
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To: SeekAndFind
I think all true prophecies will be fulfilled. That said, there is a bit of controversy if this last pope prediction is an actual prediction by Malachi or added in later.

We shall see; he does fit the description, and things do seem to be falling into place for this to occur. There are other possible candidates but I'd say he is the strongest candidate.

What's more interesting, does the mean the end of the church? There is quite a convergence of prophecy and natural events taking place of late.

46 posted on 02/11/2013 1:33:16 PM PST by Errant
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To: SeekAndFind; Remole

OK, that’s two orders for Pope Scola.

No thanks to Ravasi. A liberal flake.


47 posted on 02/11/2013 1:37:49 PM PST by Romulus
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To: pgkdan

I agree completely.
This Pope will need to have broad shoulders and be able to speak the Truth with joy in times of great peril.


48 posted on 02/11/2013 1:39:24 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: Verginius Rufus
Urban might be a good name

What about Pope Suburban? The Holy See could sell naming rights to Chevrolet.

49 posted on 02/11/2013 1:41:41 PM PST by Romulus
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To: SeekAndFind
Special Report : Benedict XVI Resigns
50 posted on 02/11/2013 1:48:56 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (If you want to ring the bell - you got to swing the hammer hard!)
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