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United States Army Threatened With Lawsuit Over Chaplain’s Prayer to ‘Heavenly Father’
christiannews.net ^ | February 9, 2013 | Heather Clark

Posted on 02/11/2013 4:31:49 PM PST by ilovesarah2012

Washington, D.C. – The United States Army is being threatened with a lawsuit after a chaplain allegedly prayed to the Heavenly Father during an event at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio, Texas, which offended an atheist soldier in attendance.

The Huffington Post reports that Staff Sergeant Victoria Gettman is unpleased with the response that she has received from her superiors in regard to complaints that she had lodged over the prayer, which was delivered last September. Gettman and a number of other soldiers were attending a mandatory suicide prevention session, which concluded with a prayer. The prayer itself was voluntary as soldiers were not required to participate.

Gettman states that she became offended because she believed it was obvious that the chaplain was delivering a Christian prayer.

“The chaplain said we have to have something bigger than ourselves. We need, and he stresses need, to have something divine in our life,” she said. “The entire theater was [then] forced into a mass Christian prayer. … I heard him refer to his ‘Heavenly Father’ and ‘Lord.’”

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1 posted on 02/11/2013 4:31:54 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

So, one upset jackass can deprive all religious people of hearing a religious prayer. Too bad the little scumbag is going to be coddled and get her tears wiped while the vast majority of the people that are being offended by her can all go to hell, huh?


2 posted on 02/11/2013 4:34:36 PM PST by laweeks
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To: ilovesarah2012

Whatever became of old fashioned blanket parties?


3 posted on 02/11/2013 4:35:10 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: ilovesarah2012

And then the same idiots wonder why all the “gun violence” is occurring. Without God, we are nothing but animals. Animals kill one another all of the time. It’s the law of the jungle.


4 posted on 02/11/2013 4:36:01 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: laweeks

All right.

Cannon fodder.


5 posted on 02/11/2013 4:38:37 PM PST by bigheadfred (Some women definitely need to serve in combat)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Staff Sergeant Victoria Gettman . . . became offended because she believed it was obvious that the chaplain was delivering a Christian prayer.

If she's too delicate to listen to a prayer that mentions "Our Heavenly Father", then she is far too delicate to serve in our military. I'm not sure what career would fit her, beyond permanent social security disability.

6 posted on 02/11/2013 4:39:51 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: laweeks

This story really infuriated me! Suing because a chaplain prayed??? Sometimes I wish Christians weren’t so namby-pamby!


7 posted on 02/11/2013 4:39:59 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

What does she care? As far as she is concerned the Chaplain was praying to no one.


8 posted on 02/11/2013 4:41:30 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: ilovesarah2012

Why doesn’t the military find out just who are the atheists and put them in their own units . . . away from everyone else. Then the little pansies won’t be offended.


9 posted on 02/11/2013 4:42:01 PM PST by laweeks
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To: ilovesarah2012

one guy has veto power over prayer and Christian speech, but 99% of them wouldn’t be able to change anything about gays and stuff


10 posted on 02/11/2013 4:42:55 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ilovesarah2012

we made it easier for idiots to get into the miltiary, hell look at the latest marine AD which shows a young black guy walking then into uniform and then helping out wiht aid in another country,

contrast this to the Brit Royal marines which even state don;t bother applying if you can;t handle this.

Here is the AD and I might add their marines don;t even let women in

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=royal+marines++ads&view=detail&mid=A9D8246AB651B4801E74A9D8246AB651B4801E74&first=0&FORM=NVPFVR

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=royal+marines++ads&view=detail&mid=A9D8246AB651B4801E74A9D8246AB651B4801E74&first=0&FORM=NVPFVR

their rules of engagement, is to shoot if they are the enemy or they think they are , American marines are wait to be shot at then return fire.

We have to overturn all of this, cross dressing, whack jobs, feces pokers giving secrets away which I noticed the media dropped once they found out he was a feces poker, no lawsuits in the miltiary etc


11 posted on 02/11/2013 4:43:15 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ilovesarah2012

An atheist goes to a religious event and is OFFENDED by the mention of God? I say we take him out back and beat the crap out of him because WE are offended by him.


12 posted on 02/11/2013 4:44:10 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I was taking with a Muslim once trying to get a handle on what they believe. I asked if a Muslim could pray the Lord’s Prayer. It doesn’t say anything about Jesus.

He said absolutely not. A Muslim would never be so disrespectful of Allah as to presume to call Him “Father”.


13 posted on 02/11/2013 4:45:16 PM PST by DManA
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To: laweeks

I believe that no active duty soldier can sue the military.


14 posted on 02/11/2013 4:45:24 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/08/army-religious-freedom-lawsuit_n_2646086.html?utm_hp_ref=politics ~ essentially same story. This Gettman gal knew it was voluntary but she claims she was concerned over the fact the Chaplain didn’t invite the Jews and Buddhists to ‘git oud duh way’ ~ so I don’t think she wins any lawsuits but some Christian might well be able to lay one on her for harrassing their free exercise o their own religious beliefs.


15 posted on 02/11/2013 4:45:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: null and void

She’s no relation to me!


16 posted on 02/11/2013 4:48:24 PM PST by Shimmer1 (No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Can someone just shoot this worthless “Piece of Shit”
17 posted on 02/11/2013 4:48:46 PM PST by fedupjohn (America...Designed by Geniuses...Now inhabited by Idiots..Palin 2016...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
It was a Fur Lined Foxhole complaining.
18 posted on 02/11/2013 4:49:40 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I believe that no active duty soldier can sue the military.

You better believe that this scumbag will try something to humiliate this Chaplain. I'd court-marshall her for something and stick her sorry ass in the brig. Just isolate these fools into their own units and let them sulk somewhere else.

19 posted on 02/11/2013 4:49:47 PM PST by laweeks
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To: Pollster1

got that promotion based on PC and has probably never done much in her military life but boy she;ll get those benefits


20 posted on 02/11/2013 4:51:27 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: fedupjohn
Can someone just shoot this worthless “Piece of Shit”

BTW, I was talking about the Lawyer !!!

21 posted on 02/11/2013 4:51:44 PM PST by fedupjohn (America...Designed by Geniuses...Now inhabited by Idiots..Palin 2016...)
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To: ilovesarah2012

B*tch. Kick her out of the military. Dishonorable discharge.


22 posted on 02/11/2013 4:52:21 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It’s a HER! I think she should be put on the front lines in Afghanistan!


23 posted on 02/11/2013 4:52:52 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Two words:

Thule, Greenland.


24 posted on 02/11/2013 4:54:23 PM PST by buffaloguy
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25 posted on 02/11/2013 4:55:28 PM PST by RedMDer (Support Free Republic)
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To: Pollster1; All
If she's too delicate to listen to a prayer that mentions "Our Heavenly Father", then she is far too delicate to serve in our military.

Exactly what I thought.

26 posted on 02/11/2013 4:55:53 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: ilovesarah2012

Sounds like the rantings of a typical dyke?


27 posted on 02/11/2013 4:55:53 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

They should sue her as well since she swore to uphold the constitution...and that constitution includes the words “in the year of our lord”


28 posted on 02/11/2013 4:56:23 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: ilovesarah2012

How is it that the other soldiers can be force fed offensive crap all day long, e.g. you have no choice but to shower with the sodomites, but mentioning God is treated as the most offensive thing that could possibly be said.

Blanket party time.


29 posted on 02/11/2013 4:57:53 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: fedupjohn

This is exactly what has happened to our nation’s military since it became the PC, MC, social engineering test force.


30 posted on 02/11/2013 4:59:01 PM PST by Lumper20 (`)
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To: ilovesarah2012

she’s ‘allowed’ to be offended by a voluntary prayer... and they care...

yet when I’m radically offended by homosexuals and pro-abortion baby killers I’m supposed to stow it

yea...


31 posted on 02/11/2013 4:59:45 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: ilovesarah2012

What a loon! Her hat reads "I love atheists"

32 posted on 02/11/2013 4:59:57 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: ilovesarah2012

She should be grateful for anything that gives her fellow soldiers strength and peace.

May she spontaneously combust and rot in hell.


33 posted on 02/11/2013 5:00:39 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Neoliberalnot

I bet that Gettman has never gotten a man.


34 posted on 02/11/2013 5:01:57 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Lumper20

I honestly don’t see how a conscientious Christian can serve in the military at this point. Anyone volunteering here on in can’t say they didn’t know.


35 posted on 02/11/2013 5:01:57 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“Sometimes I wish Christians weren’t so namby-pamby!”

I for one can’t wait to see this “new military” go up against the Muslims...


36 posted on 02/11/2013 5:06:52 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ilovesarah2012

She’s a lab tech instructor at Ft. Sam Houston. And I would bet she’s a lesbian, though I don’t know.


37 posted on 02/11/2013 5:08:36 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

An atheist chick. I suppose she’s gay, too. Tell her to suck it up.


38 posted on 02/11/2013 5:09:20 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: laweeks

why isn;t there a law which states you cannot sue whilst serving, the Brits have this law and they understand that their rights or so called are not the same once in the military?


39 posted on 02/11/2013 5:09:28 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Time for a very serious blanket party.


40 posted on 02/11/2013 5:11:11 PM PST by moovova
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To: ilovesarah2012

Just smack ‘em!


41 posted on 02/11/2013 5:11:53 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: kearnyirish2

which is why my oldest wanted navy seals or marine recon but alas he is not going into it now and good for him.

I’m not having him to share showers and rooms with feces pokers, men who dress as women and these PC nuts.

Yet again another PC fool get in the military and yet again the military looks to be even more of a joke than it was.


42 posted on 02/11/2013 5:12:09 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Sacajaweau

how does hse like her wages, how does she defend the constitution, etc?

The military needs to be revamped all over and PC crap liek this should be no more


43 posted on 02/11/2013 5:13:53 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc
why isn;t there a law which states you cannot sue whilst serving, the Brits have this law and they understand that their rights or so called are not the same once in the military?

I think a nice dishonorable discharge would be in order for this fool. Drum her out. She's bad for unit cohesiveness. She should, at all times, be thinking of her unit and not herself. Howdja' like to be in combat with this kind of thinking?

44 posted on 02/11/2013 5:14:48 PM PST by laweeks
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To: laweeks

Hey atheist, if there is no god then why are you offended if a chaplain prays?

You are a hate-theist and a totalitarian. Everyone must join you in your hatred of religion, and in particular Christianity, or you complain.

The unexamined life is not worth living. Apparently you haven’t thought much so get on with it and make the world a better place.


45 posted on 02/11/2013 5:15:21 PM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: ilovesarah2012

If a faggot has no religious preference then he should just sit there silent.


46 posted on 02/11/2013 5:17:15 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/12869-petraeus-should-have-been-fired-years-ago


47 posted on 02/11/2013 5:17:50 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: ilovesarah2012

I think there’s more to Petreaus being taking down...Seems the chick got away with absolutely no penalty....and now here’s another chick after his hide.


48 posted on 02/11/2013 5:19:42 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Ray76

I really can’t see how there could possibly be any way to sue the Army, being that anyone then could sue if he felt the sarge yelled at him too loudly or dressed him down in front of his squad, or . . . you name it.

So, how can the Army possibly be sued for anything?


49 posted on 02/11/2013 5:23:20 PM PST by laweeks
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To: ilovesarah2012
in days gone by, this guy would get a blanket party...
50 posted on 02/11/2013 5:24:00 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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