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M5.1 - 24km ENE of Sungjibaegam, North Korea (Probable Nuke Test)
US Geological Survey ^ | February 11, 2012

Posted on 02/11/2013 7:26:05 PM PST by Strategerist

Event Time

2013-02-12 02:57:51 UTC 2013-02-12 11:57:51 UTC+09:00 at epicenter 2013-02-11 21:57:51 UTC-05:00 system time Location

41.299°N 129.081°E depth=1.0km (0.6mi)

Nearby Cities

24km (15mi) ENE of Sungjibaegam, North Korea 34km (21mi) WNW of Hau-ri, North Korea 42km (26mi) NNW of Kilju, North Korea 51km (32mi) WSW of Hoemul-li, North Korea 378km (235mi) NE of Pyongyang, North Korea Related Links

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: albrightspeople; iaeabomb; korea; nkorea; nkoreaandiran; northkorea; nucleartest; obamasfault; obamaspeople
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1 posted on 02/11/2013 7:26:15 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

No rose colored glasses, here, but it’s true that 10 years ago they tried to fake us out by blowing up an other-worldly amount of conventional explosions in order to try to fake it.

My gut instinct this time, however, is that it’s real....


2 posted on 02/11/2013 7:29:46 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Strategerist
IDK. Looks like earthquakes of similar intensity, minutes apart, all up and down the Pacific Rim.
3 posted on 02/11/2013 7:30:56 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Strategerist

Bump.


4 posted on 02/11/2013 7:31:05 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: Strategerist

Ironic.

NORKS are starving to death, but pop nukes. Iran is moving rapidly toward that.

AND Obozo wants to reduce our stockpile of weapons to 900-300?, ultimately to Zero.

You can see the disconnect here.

Obozo is doing his best to utterly destroy the US.


5 posted on 02/11/2013 7:31:32 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Strategerist

This area of North Korea has almost no natural earthquakes, depth 1 km.

At a magnitude 4.9 this would be twice as strong as their last test, magnitude probably 4-8 kilotons based on a standard magnitude-yield relationship.

The magnitude may be revised in the next few hours.


6 posted on 02/11/2013 7:31:41 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Disarm Americans, while rapidly building up DHS...

Disarm the USA, all while DPRK arms to the teeth...


7 posted on 02/11/2013 7:33:08 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin

The 2006 test, while low magnitude, was a legitimate test; fission products were detected.

The larger 2009 test was well sealed, but at 2-6 kilotons it would be a truly enormous amount of conventional explosives; there’s no evidence it wasn’t a real test.


8 posted on 02/11/2013 7:34:15 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist
In first with WDDIM (What Difference Does It Make?)...

Remember Obama talking about all those “small” Countries that weren’t a threat to the United States, while he laughed?

9 posted on 02/11/2013 7:38:38 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I’m irritated they didn’t do it during the State of the Union.

There’s some indication they may do two tests, so there’s still hope.


10 posted on 02/11/2013 7:41:36 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

One of the difficulties in making nuclear weapons is keeping them from blowing themselves apart prematurely. I’ve always suspected that that’s where they failed.


11 posted on 02/11/2013 7:44:05 PM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: Strategerist

“quake” collocated at the Punggye-ri Test Facility (41.278, 129.087) . It was a test!!!!!!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 02/11/2013 7:44:26 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Strategerist

13 posted on 02/11/2013 7:48:15 PM PST by TSgt (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.)
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To: rdl6989; TigerLikesRooster; SevenofNine

One more


14 posted on 02/11/2013 7:49:54 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: JoeDetweiler

” I’ve always suspected that that’s where they failed.”

To much Pu240 in the alloy.


15 posted on 02/11/2013 7:50:12 PM PST by DBrow
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To: gaijin

My gut says it’s another fake, with lots of H.E.


16 posted on 02/11/2013 7:51:26 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: G Larry

There’s no evidence either of their tests were fakes.


17 posted on 02/11/2013 7:52:55 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Thank god North Korea is peaceful or I’d be worried. :)


18 posted on 02/11/2013 7:53:48 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Strategerist

“no evidence”

uh....

no public evidence....


19 posted on 02/11/2013 7:59:21 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: G Larry

Trust me.

Anyway, EMSC after seismologist review puts it at 5.0; so that’s at least 5 kilotons, possibly as many as 9 or 10 kilotons.

If it was a fake it would be by far the largest deliberate conventional explosion ever (only one larger would be the explosion of the Soviet Moon rocket).

It would almost be easier to build a nuke than fake something this big.


20 posted on 02/11/2013 8:01:24 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: gaijin; G Larry

This is only a tad stronger than 2009. Does South Korea and Japan provide North Korea with nitrate fertilizer? You think maybe they’re taking this free fertilizer, stuffing it in a deep tunnel and lighting it up?

There never is any radionuclides released until way after the fact...as if someone forgot to let them go.


21 posted on 02/11/2013 8:04:50 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I thought the latest head-fake by N. Koreans would last a little longer. I figure they would do it this weekend or even after Chia Head’s birthday. As it turns out, the Fat Boy did not waste time.:-)


22 posted on 02/11/2013 8:06:12 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: Strategerist; All
Obama knew!

Yonhap:

2013/02/12 12:48 KST
(URGENT) N. Korea notifies U.S., China of nuclear test plans a day earlier: S. Korean official

23 posted on 02/11/2013 8:10:11 PM PST by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: Strategerist; All
More from Yonhap:

2013/02/12 13:04 KST
(URGENT) U.N. Security Council to hold emergency meeting at 11:00 p.m. (New York time)

24 posted on 02/11/2013 8:21:05 PM PST by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: Strategerist

Yes, but between this news and the Pope’s news, Obama will get less attention than normal.


25 posted on 02/11/2013 8:27:42 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy
Steve Herman ‏@W7VOA A friend just rang from Yangji, PRC saying he felt nothing on 8th floor of bldg. in city where 2006 test was felt.
26 posted on 02/11/2013 8:29:20 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: struggle

USGS just revised the magnitude upward to 5.1.

At minimum 7 kilotons, could be upwards of 15 kilotons.

It’s highly possible that they’ve matched the Hiroshima bomb.


27 posted on 02/11/2013 8:55:07 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Well, the gun-type is going to be the easiest to make, so it’s the one you’d expect them to duplicate.


28 posted on 02/11/2013 9:07:56 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: rdl6989
Flurry of diplomatic movement here in Northeast Asia. Looks like North Korea did it (as expected due to personnel and materiel movement spotted by intel satellites). 1400 LOCAL TUESDAY

29 posted on 02/11/2013 9:10:12 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Global tyrants deserve Mussolini Treatment: Hung up by the heels after the sh*t kicked out of them)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; All

anyone have a guess as to size and weight?


30 posted on 02/11/2013 9:52:44 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Using the formula developed by Wallace in estimating the Pokhran tests, I’m coming out with a yield between 10-15kt @ 5.2 magnitude.

Will need satellite imaging of the size of the sunken crater to refine my calculations.

Cheers!


31 posted on 02/11/2013 10:13:40 PM PST by DoctorBulldog (Obama sucks. End of story.)
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To: DoctorBulldog
prior to explosion ... size prior and mass (weight)
any thoughts?
32 posted on 02/11/2013 10:19:10 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Strategerist
China joins U.S., Japan in condemning North Korea nuclear test
33 posted on 02/12/2013 6:37:31 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Are you asking me if the actual device is now small enough to be placed on top of a rocket and launched?

I don’t know. It depends on how powerful the engines for their rockets are.

I’m guessing that they have a nuclear device about the size, weight, and yield of Little Boy. So, that’s, what? About 10,000 lbs and maybe a 15 kiloton yield.

Cheers

PS - Sorry for the late response. I was using the laptop last night and hate the small keyboard for typing. Fired up “The Monster” this morning to respond to you.


34 posted on 02/12/2013 8:09:18 AM PST by DoctorBulldog (Obama sucks. End of story.)
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To: Strategerist
Good morning.

My guess is that the Norks just entered the nuclear club.

I'm guessing the Persians will join soon too.

And 0bama is disarming us...

We do live in interesting times.

5.56mm

35 posted on 02/12/2013 8:17:16 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Strategerist

This will be John F’n Kerry’s first real moment as SoS, and I think he’s a man who’s up for this challenge.

*snicker*
Aw hell, I couldn’t even type it with a straight face...


36 posted on 02/12/2013 8:20:11 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Strategerist

I’m sure the crack national security team is preparing a comprehensive response to the NoKo threat.....


37 posted on 02/12/2013 9:22:44 AM PST by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: DoctorBulldog

I don’t know if 15KT at 1KM DOB would produce a large enough cavity for a subsidence crater to form.


38 posted on 02/12/2013 9:33:05 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: PapaBear3625

Why do those headlines leave out South Korea, anyway?

Are they not part of this story? :p


39 posted on 02/12/2013 12:27:32 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Larry Lucido; battlecry; mnehring; prisoner6; Ray76; Strategerist; ...
Yep!

http://rev.seis.sc.edu/stations/IC/MDJ

Code: IC.MDJ
Name: Mudanjiang, Heilongjiang Province, China
Location: 44.62 N, 129.59 E


40 posted on 02/12/2013 2:33:05 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA
...and in Beijing:

http://rev.seis.sc.edu/stations/IC/BJT


41 posted on 02/12/2013 2:47:50 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Larry Lucido; battlecry; mnehring; prisoner6; Ray76; Strategerist; ...
...and a classic from

Code: IC.HIA Name: Hailar, Neimenggu Autonomous Region, China Location: 49.27 N, 119.74 E

Good P impulse, and the P-S time looks good for the distance...

42 posted on 02/12/2013 3:07:24 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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Hulun Buir 1, Inner Mongolia, China.


43 posted on 02/12/2013 4:46:18 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt slowly.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: DoctorBulldog

thank you


44 posted on 02/12/2013 5:24:23 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

The initial reports of the seismic event occurring 1km underground were erroneous. I knew that the 1km figure couldn’t be right when I first heard about it. So, last night, I called up one of my geologist buddies and asked him about it. He looked at his data and calculated it at less than a 10th of a kilometer underground.

So, I’m fairly confident there’s going to be a nice, lovely subsidence crater for me to measure once the satellite imaging comes out.

Cheers!


45 posted on 02/12/2013 10:00:10 PM PST by DoctorBulldog (Obama sucks. End of story.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
"Hulun Buir 1, Inner Mongolia, China."

Thanks! But, I haven't been able to locate that station. Got a link?

Most of the stations in the region were inoperative ("flat-lined") at the (arrival) time of the event.

And, most of the operating stations that I made "grabs" of earlier... now have all data -- beginning at the AT of the event -- "scrubbed" (flatlined).

Weird stuff!

46 posted on 02/12/2013 11:21:43 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Strategerist

NO cheers, unfortunately.

47 posted on 02/12/2013 11:21:57 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: DoctorBulldog
Looks like pretty mountainous, hard-rock terrain. Hardly anything like Frenchman's Flats...


48 posted on 02/12/2013 11:28:21 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA
Thanks for the info.
49 posted on 02/13/2013 12:07:34 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: TXnMA
Solid rock subsidence crater (affectionately known as a "Retarc" (Crater spelled backwards)):



Not as pretty as Frenchman's Flats, but still easily measured.

Cheers!
50 posted on 02/13/2013 9:52:49 AM PST by DoctorBulldog (Obama sucks. End of story.)
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