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Why a Johns Hopkins Neurosurgeon Is Getting 2016 Presidential Buzz
National Journal ^ | 02/13/2013 | Elahe Izadi

Posted on 02/12/2013 7:10:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Pediatric neurosurgeon Ben Carson speaks to an audience in Central Michigan University in October 2009. (Jeffrey Smith/Flickr)

If conservatives are looking for a political outsider with an inspiring rags-to-riches story and who could effectively challenge President Obama’s policies on health care and taxes while also quoting Scripture and criticizing political correctness, look no further than Ben Carson.

Carson, raised by a single mother in a poverty-stricken home, who went on to become a top Johns Hopkins neurosurgeon, gave a nearly 30-minute speech at the National Prayer Breakfast last week that indirectly criticized many of the policies promulgated by President Obama -- all while the president sat just to his side.

A YouTube video of Carson’s speech has since racked up more than 1 million views. A Wall Street Journal editorial ran under the headline “Ben Carson for President.” Carson told Sean Hannity on Fox News, “If the Lord grabbed me by the collar and made me do it, I would. It’s not my intention.” Hannity replied, “I would vote for you in a heartbeat.”

In particular, Carson’s views on some of Obama’s most hard-fought-for policies –- health care and income tax levels -- have caused many on the right to talk about his political prospects. On health care, Carson said every child born in the U.S. should receive a medical savings account, which could receive pretax contributions.

"We can make contributions for people who are indigent," Carson said. "Instead of sending all this money to some bureaucracy, let's put it in their HSAs. Now they have some control over their own health care. And very quickly they're going to learn how to be responsible."

When it comes to taxes, Carson pushed for a flat income tax by citing the biblical concept of tithing. "Some people say, 'Well that's not fair because it doesn't hurt the guy who made $10 billion as much as the guy who made 10.' Where does it say you've got to hurt the guy? He just put a billion dollars in the pot. We don't need to hurt him," Carson said. "It's that kind of thinking that has resulted in 602 banks in the Cayman Islands. That money needs to be back here building our infrastructure and creating jobs."

Carson has also endeared himself to social conservatives, blasting the idea of political correctness, saying that it is destroying the nation by silencing conversations.

His life story inspired a 2009 movie starring Cuba Gooding, Jr. Carson grew up in Detroit and didn't do well in school until his mother pushed him, despite her own lack of formal education. Carson went on to become only the 11th African-American board-certified neurosurgeon in the country, and he gained national prominence for his role in a complicated series of surgeries separating five sets of conjoined twins.

Perhaps Carson is primed for a move into the political fray; he’s a regular on the lecture circuit, talks frequently about public education, and came out with a book last year entitled America the Beautiful. There’s certainly a groundswell of support for it. While on Fox News, Carson responded to Hannity’s pledge that he’d get his vote for president by saying, “I have so many e-mails from people saying that, I could probably finance my campaign if each one gave me a nickel.”

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO OF HIS SPEECH



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; bencarson; neurosurgeon; president

1 posted on 02/12/2013 7:10:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

AllahPundit of Hotair made this observation:

He’s a phenomenon on the right, but it’s completely unrealistic, needless to say, for a total political novice to contend seriously for a presidential nomination, even one as personally accomplished as Carson.

Senator is a more likely bet, but Carson has the misfortune of living in one of the most reliably blue states in America.

Maryland hasn’t sent a Republican to the Senate in more than 25 years. Ben Cardin just got reelected and Barbara Mikulski isn’t up again until 2016 — and she’s never drawn less than 60 percent in a Senate race. Could be that she’ll retire before her next term (she’s 76 now), but Democratic turnout in Maryland will be strong in ’16 no matter who the nominee is since it’s a presidential election year. He could, of course, move across the border to Virginia and take his chances there, but the next Senate election is in 2014 against Mark Warner — who won with 65 percent of the vote last time. Second look at running for the House instead?


2 posted on 02/12/2013 7:12:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I really liked his speech. If he ran on the principles outlined in that talk I could vote for him. Not for President unless he had an elective executive position first, but for anything short of that. Shame he is in Maryland instead of Texas.


3 posted on 02/12/2013 7:14:36 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would think conservatives would like to know more about a candidate before they supported them. Then again, there were some wanting Scott Brown for Prez before he was even a Senator.


4 posted on 02/12/2013 7:15:42 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: No Truce With Kings

RE: I really liked his speech. If he ran on the principles outlined in that talk I could vote for him.

Let’s just hope he isn’t a ladies man like you-know-who...

I don’t want to see the face of Gloria Allred again.


5 posted on 02/12/2013 7:21:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: GeronL

Yes, due diligence is a must. Everything I’ve heard the guy say so far, I’ve agreed with, but that’s not to say he doesn’t have a skeleton or two in his closet. Lord knows the Clinton machine knows how to dig them up if they’re there. I’d also like to hear his thoughts on a wider scope of issues, and who he would suggest as advisers. You can tell a lot about a man by the company he keeps.


6 posted on 02/12/2013 7:29:09 AM PST by Dubya-M-Dees (Little HOPE... No CHANGE)
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To: SeekAndFind; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Liz; ...
RE :”Carson, raised by a single mother in a poverty-stricken home, who went on to become a top Johns Hopkins neurosurgeon, gave a nearly 30-minute speech at the National Prayer Breakfast last week that indirectly criticized many of the policies promulgated by President Obama — all while the president sat just to his side.
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“We can make contributions for people who are indigent,” Carson said. “ Instead of sending all this money to some bureaucracy, let's put it in their HSAs. Now they have some control over their own health care. And very quickly they're going to learn how to be responsible.”
When it comes to taxes, Carson pushed for a flat income tax by citing the biblical concept of tithing. “ Some people say, ‘Well that's not fair because it doesn't hurt the guy who made $10 billion as much as the guy who made 10.’ Where does it say you've got to hurt the guy? He just put a billion dollars in the pot. We don't need to hurt him,” Carson said. “It's that kind of thinking that has resulted in 602 banks in the Cayman Islands. That money needs to be back here building our infrastructure and creating jobs.”

FNC was playing this and it was classic the camera focused on Os face when he was being lectured by Ben Carson (who is black.)

This guy should be the response to O rather than Rubio and Paul, he is no Herman Cain.


7 posted on 02/12/2013 7:39:39 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

You can bet everything you have that the leftist smear machine is in top gear trying to discredit this man.

He’s everything they hate -
a minority, out of poverty because of a PARENT, not the government, intelligent, well spoken, likeably.


8 posted on 02/12/2013 7:43:18 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Liz; ...
RE :”Carson, raised by a single mother in a poverty-stricken home, who went on to become a top Johns Hopkins neurosurgeon, gave a nearly 30-minute speech at the National Prayer Breakfast last week that indirectly criticized many of the policies promulgated by President Obama — all while the president sat just to his side.
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“We can make contributions for people who are indigent,” Carson said. “ Instead of sending all this money to some bureaucracy, let's put it in their HSAs. Now they have some control over their own health care. And very quickly they're going to learn how to be responsible.”
When it comes to taxes, Carson pushed for a flat income tax by citing the biblical concept of tithing. “ Some people say, ‘Well that's not fair because it doesn't hurt the guy who made $10 billion as much as the guy who made 10.’ Where does it say you've got to hurt the guy?
He just put a billion dollars in the pot. We don't need to hurt him,” Carson said. “It's that kind of thinking that has resulted in 602 banks in the Cayman Islands. That money needs to be back here building our infrastructure and creating jobs.”

FNC was playing this and it was classic the camera focused on Os face when he was being lectured by Ben Carson (who is black and in my lib state yet.)

This guy should be the response to O rather than Rubio and Paul, he is no joke like Herman Cain or Michael Steele were/are.


9 posted on 02/12/2013 7:43:18 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What is Carson’s position on the .2nd Amendment?


10 posted on 02/12/2013 7:45:57 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: SeekAndFind

He would have my complete support. This is the man conservatives have been clamoring to have arrive on the scene.

Asking for a career politician is something true conservatives should NEVER do.


11 posted on 02/12/2013 7:49:15 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: SeekAndFind

He would have my complete support. This is the man conservatives have been clamoring to have arrive on the scene.

Asking for a career politician is something true conservatives should NEVER do.


12 posted on 02/12/2013 7:49:15 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: SeekAndFind

He would have my complete support. This is the man conservatives have been clamoring to have arrive on the scene.

Asking for a career politician is something true conservatives should NEVER do.


13 posted on 02/12/2013 7:49:15 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: SeekAndFind

My gosh!

One speech does NOT a president make.

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Again, we see names being thrown against the wall to see if any stick.

Every time someone makes noise that the conservatives like, they claim him to be the next frontrunner for 2016.

Did they learn nothing from 2008? 2012? Apparently not.

At least vet the guy some. Find out his credentials. The last thing the GOP primaries needs is another bunch of wannabes who become the frontrunners, only to be forced out by their own undoing.

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These are becoming worse than reality TV.


14 posted on 02/12/2013 7:50:03 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

RE: My gosh!

One speech does NOT a president make.

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Yes, like Barack Obama at the 2005 DNC.


15 posted on 02/12/2013 7:50:55 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Triple

WANTING power should be an immediate disqualification to be elected to any position of power...


16 posted on 02/12/2013 7:51:07 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: TomGuy
CORRECTION: Like Barack Obama at the 2005 2004 DNC.
17 posted on 02/12/2013 7:51:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m sure Gloria Allred has been given an unlimited budget for a bimbo fishing expedition.


18 posted on 02/12/2013 7:53:16 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind
Yes, like Barack Obama at the 2005 DNC.

He lowered the bar almost to ground level.

A lot of good that did. The GOP couldn't even pick up a few Senate seats in the worst economy since Carter.


19 posted on 02/12/2013 7:59:52 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
These are becoming worse than reality TV.

Considering Trump was briefly the front runner last year, maybe it's becoming reality TV.

20 posted on 02/12/2013 8:05:49 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: SeekAndFind

Why a Johns Hopkins Neurosurgeon Is Getting 2016 Presidential Buzz

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Because we are desparately trying to turn back years of leftist corruption and all bets are off.

This is the ideal candidate. The conservative version of John Anderson or Gene McCarthy. I do think the Good Doctor would be just the person to head up Health and Human services.


21 posted on 02/12/2013 8:06:11 AM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: TomGuy

Yes, because we’re suppose to choose from a preselected list of GOP approved RINO’s who’ll toe the party line. It will be “inevitable”, just like romney. Hell, why even bother with primaries, and why would candidates even bother running in them. The GOP does more damage to itself than the dems could hope to imagine. IMHO, the conservatives are fools for hitching their wagon to the republican party.


22 posted on 02/12/2013 8:10:26 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Hey, WE should be the ones doing the fishing. Would you really want a person as candidate that was not morally qualified? I wouldn’t. Herman Cain deserved exactly what he got. There was “something” very unsettling about what was going on with him and really, to this day, we still don’t know - his responses were not totally convincing to say the least. If the process starts now for Dr. Carson I would think it would be settled before any presidential campaign starts. There’s nothing wrong in people expressing their initial “hoped for” expectations - we all need a little good news and a little hope at this point. If he’s not our man he sure seems to be a “type” of what we’re looking for. Time will tell if Dr. Carson really has what it takes to “fill the prescription” for a conservative candidate - but at first blush he looks very encouraging.


23 posted on 02/12/2013 8:16:57 AM PST by Lake Living
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To: factoryrat
why even bother with primaries

Last year, many FR posters kept asking me who I was for, since I was throwing mud at all of the wannabes.

I responded that it probably wouldn't matter. My state primary was held late, late in the season. I posted that the race would be decided long beforehand. It was. By the time of the state primary, Romney already had the nomination locked up. Similar in 2008 with McCain. My state primary for the presidential nomination was a waste of time and money, because the results were insignificant.


24 posted on 02/12/2013 8:18:01 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Lake Living
Herman Cain deserved exactly what he got. There was “something” very unsettling about what was going on with him and really, to this day, we still don’t know - his responses were not totally convincing to say the least.

'I categorically reject your allegation ...'

Whattttttt? I shook my head every time Cain used that phrase. Either he did or he didn't do the things in those allegations, but he always danced around avoiding a direct 'yes' or 'no' response.

The first time I heard his 'categorically reject' remark, I thought there was something more to the allegations. Other shoes started dropping.


25 posted on 02/12/2013 8:23:52 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: sickoflibs

Heritic!!!!

Herman Cain is the genuine Conservative article. Unlike Carson, a surgeon, Cain is a businessman who articulates almost the same speech. If you believe otherwise you should quit now. You will never find anyone acceptable.

You should note, the interview, the long interview was given to Neil Cavuto yesterday. In a similar vein, Herman Cain first appeared over and over on Neil’s show. Perhaps Neil (and News Corp) has found a new face to put forward for consideration.

There should be literal guns and knives and water boarding for the MSM scoundrels that come to tear Carson down.


26 posted on 02/12/2013 8:29:07 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: sickoflibs; SeekAndFind; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; Liz

I have to say, I loved watching the expressions play across Jughead’s face. He clearly wasn’t happy with the good doctor taking polite jabs at him.

Id have preferred him to be not so polite, but still, it was an inspiring moment.

Good on ya, Doc.


27 posted on 02/12/2013 8:53:19 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh brother everty time a black says anything bad about Obama it’s presidential buzz,it’s getting old fast.
And yes I agree with Carson.


28 posted on 02/12/2013 8:53:54 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind

I was impressed with Carson’s speech and he has a wonderful personal life story. However, there is no way in the world that I would support him for ANY office without knowing a heck of a lot more about him.

Granted, after 4 horrible years of Obama, Carson is a breath of fresh air. I would like to hear much more from Dr. Carson .


29 posted on 02/12/2013 8:57:16 AM PST by Gator113 ( REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS and leave my guns alone!!)
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To: bert; NFHale; Impy; Gilbo_3
RE :”Heritic!!!! Herman Cain is the genuine Conservative article. Unlike Carson, a surgeon, Cain is a businessman who articulates almost the same speech. If you believe otherwise you should quit now. You will never find anyone acceptable”

LOL, I have one friend here who occasionally looks back at Cain fondly, but Herman's ship sunk with all those wimmin and even he knew that.
Cain was supported by some (in my opinion) simply because all the other not-Romney’s were flawed in one way or another, usually more than one.
The make believe ‘for attention’ run’s of Palin and Trump were just a lead up to the Cain cartoon campaign run. It shows that many anti-Romney Republicans (of which I was one) were so despirate that they would follow anything that made a woof-woof.

RE :”You should note, the interview, the long interview was given to Neil Cavuto yesterday. In a similar vein, Herman Cain first appeared over and over on Neil’s show. Perhaps Neil (and News Corp) has found a new face to put forward for consideration.”

That is where I saw him. Cavuto’s the only one I watch regularly (DVR) on FNC now.

I refuse to play the ‘who I want to run’ game this early, esp after the last four years feasco, but Rub and Paul have a way to go in my view.
Have either ever accomplished anything? I fear a replay of the endless 'follow the woof-woof' ies.
Rub and Paul can start by killing some of these Senate bills in the Senate (and propose their own alternatives) so they dont reach the House, and since both are for amnesty I expect little help from them there. Just voting against stuff that passes doesnt impress me and wont get them in the WH.

30 posted on 02/12/2013 9:04:10 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: SeekAndFind
He’s a phenomenon on the right, but it’s completely unrealistic, needless to say, for a total political novice to contend seriously for a presidential nomination, even one as personally accomplished as Carson.

That's exactly what we need, but not a novice in the way hussein is/was.
31 posted on 02/12/2013 9:29:47 AM PST by crosshairs (All we are saying, is give a high cap piece a chance.)
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To: Gator113

RE: there is no way in the world that I would support him for ANY office without knowing a heck of a lot more about him.

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You might want to start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Ben_Carson


32 posted on 02/12/2013 9:32:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: crosshairs

RE: That’s exactly what we need, but not a novice in the way hussein is/was.

OK, a lot of people had problems with Romney because he is a Mormon.

Anybody going to be reluctant in the case of Dr. Carson as he is a Seventh Day Adventist.


33 posted on 02/12/2013 9:35:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; LucyT

Gifted Hands the movie on the internet.

http://www.renewamerica.com:80/article/130211


34 posted on 02/12/2013 9:37:02 AM PST by sweetiepiezer
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To: bert

Remember when the media quizzed Marco Rubio regarding his view of the age of the earth just to dig up something to ridicule?

Well, It just so happens that dr. Carson does not believe in the Darwinian Theory of Evolution.

In a debate with Richard Dawkins, Francis Collins, and Daniel Dennett, Carson stated he doesn’t believe in evolution: “I don’t believe in evolution...evolution says that because there are these similarities, even though we can’t specifically connect them, it proves that this is what happened.”

Here is the audio:

http://archive.org/details/RichardDawkinsDanielDennettVs.FrancisCollinsBenjaminCarson


35 posted on 02/12/2013 9:38:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks, but I’ve already seen that entry. I started my research right after listening to his breakfast speech.

So far, I think he looks promising, but I have learned to be a ‘slow breather’ on such matters.


36 posted on 02/12/2013 9:48:47 AM PST by Gator113 ( REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS and leave my guns alone!!)
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To: TomGuy

You’d have to dig a hole and put the bar in it when considering Obama. The guy is totally unqualified for the job.


37 posted on 02/12/2013 9:49:38 AM PST by Marathoner 244
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To: SeekAndFind

He could run third party and probably do very well. He is a registered independent.


38 posted on 02/12/2013 10:30:25 AM PST by Oldhunk
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To: SeekAndFind

Pediatric neurosurgeon Ben Carson has my vote...


39 posted on 02/12/2013 10:35:00 AM PST by GOPJ ( Illegal immigrants: violent boorish party crashers. Send them home, call police - make them leave.)
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To: sickoflibs

——Cavuto’s the only one I watch regularly (DVR) on FNC now.——

Amen. I do watch Bret’s special report live.

My wife is retired and requires noise. She leaves Fox on all day


40 posted on 02/12/2013 10:46:02 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: No Truce With Kings; SeekAndFind

I remember the 2012 Herman Cain implosion. One thing about an established politician is that “opposition research” has likely found any skeletons there are to be found.


41 posted on 02/12/2013 11:05:24 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind
You might want to start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Ben_Carson

He's a reasonably handsome, extremely successful, high-status guy. Just the sort of person that lots of women swoon for, which means he's had decades of temptations. Just like Herman Cain. In Dr Carson's current position, there's little incentive for anybody to come out of the woodwork. Running as a Republican, EVERYTHING in his past would come out, just when it would be most damaging.

He needs a run at an important, contested race first.

42 posted on 02/12/2013 11:13:24 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I saw Dr. Carson speak, 15 years ago, when I was 11. He captured my attention then as well.

I don’t know how He would do running for President or any office for that matter. I don’t know his stands on Guns, Immigration, taxes, etc. I would like to see that more before I pushed for a run.


43 posted on 02/12/2013 11:20:05 AM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" / @rjustice21)
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To: TomGuy

Your observation just adds more evidence to the fact that the RNC has chosen who they’ll back long before any primary happens. Control when a primary for each state happens, favoring the states that are in the bag, add some social engineering to manipulate the media to deliver the message you want them to deliver, and viola! Just because they have an R next to their name doesn’t mean they’re honorable upstanding people.


44 posted on 02/13/2013 9:37:49 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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