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In tea party response, Paul will urge GOP to embrace immigrants, cut spending
CNN ^ | 12 Feb 13 | Mark Preston

Posted on 02/12/2013 12:56:37 PM PST by xzins

Edited on 02/12/2013 3:07:54 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Washington (CNN) - Sen. Rand Paul will call on his fellow Republicans to be more welcoming of immigrants Tuesday night in a speech where he will also sharply criticize President Barack Obama and his congressional colleagues for failing to reduce the nation's debt.


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KEYWORDS: 113th; aliens; bhosotu; bipartisanship; cino; gopresponse; illegal; nutburger; paul; rand; randpaul; rino; spending; wrongpaul2
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Paul's comments on the bi-partisan spend-a-holics are worth reading.

Without details, it's hard to rate his comments on immigrants

1 posted on 02/12/2013 12:56:47 PM PST by xzins
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To: xzins

So he’s the Tea Party spokesperson? Hummmm I don’t know a lot about him but I think his dad’s from another planet.


2 posted on 02/12/2013 1:00:50 PM PST by southernindymom
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To: xzins

So he’s the Tea Party spokesperson? Hummmm I don’t know a lot about him but I think his dad’s from another planet.


3 posted on 02/12/2013 1:00:54 PM PST by southernindymom
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To: xzins

Should be interesting to see what Rubio and Rand have to say tonight.


4 posted on 02/12/2013 1:01:54 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: xzins

I hope he makes it clear that Conservatives embrace and encourage LEGAL immigration, with all the provisos it used to have.

And anything that lets illegal aliens stay here is amnesty. ANYTHING.


5 posted on 02/12/2013 1:03:07 PM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: xzins
Without details, it's hard to rate his comments on immigrants

The fact that he took the politically correct route of failing to distinguish between legal and illegal immigration is the only detail you really need to know.

We are VERY welcoming of legal immigrants, and even a shameless demagogue like Rand cannot deny it.

6 posted on 02/12/2013 1:03:32 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: xzins

I welcome all legal immigrants to America.
I do not welcome those illegal aliens that steal into our Country under cover of darkness.........


7 posted on 02/12/2013 1:03:35 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Mozilla

>>Should be interesting to see what Rubio and Rand have to say tonight.<<

I can pre-quote Rubio:

AMNESTIA MI COMPADRES!


8 posted on 02/12/2013 1:04:43 PM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: xzins

I have not read it yet but I’m glad to see somebody addressing the immigration problem rather than trying to appease the lawbreaking illegals in this country. My friend has been waiting 5 years to get his fiancee over here just so they can get married but the red tape drags and drags.

PS: I assume that’s what you mean when you use the term “immigration”.


9 posted on 02/12/2013 1:04:54 PM PST by tsowellfan (cafenetamerica.com)
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To: xzins

Does he mean immigrants or illegal aliens?

This is why the GOP is getting its arse kicked in national elections. They let the Commies control the language. Illegal aliens are NOT “immigrants.” They are invaders.


10 posted on 02/12/2013 1:05:25 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: xzins

“We are the party that embraces hard work and ingenuity, therefore we must be the party that embraces the immigrant who wants to come to America for a better future,”

“We must be the party who sees immigrants as assets, not liabilities.”


11 posted on 02/12/2013 1:09:59 PM PST by Perdogg (Mark Levin - It's called the Bill of Rights not Bill of Needs)
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To: xzins

Anything less than a call for the United States to adhere to the Constitution is not worth listening to.


12 posted on 02/12/2013 1:10:22 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (A return to Jesus and prayer in the schools is the only way.)
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To: xzins
"We must be the party who sees immigrants as assets, not liabilities.

It isn't 'immigrants' that most have a problem with. What is Paul's position on 'illegal' immigrants (a.k.a., illegal aliens)?

I seem to recall him saying he liked Rubio's plan (the update of McCain's plan), but he did not actually endorse it.

When he takes a position on the 'illegals' situation, then we will know whether his is just another amnesty pusher.
13 posted on 02/12/2013 1:11:26 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: xzins

Deliberately confusing the line between legal and illegal immigrants.


14 posted on 02/12/2013 1:11:44 PM PST by mnehring
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To: xzins

“Sen. Rand Paul will call on his fellow Republicans to be more welcoming of immigrants”

Oh, f*cking shut up, Paul.

If you dont get what the hell people are talking about then dont say anything.


15 posted on 02/12/2013 1:12:35 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: xzins
LEGAL immigrants from anywhere in the world, who went through the proper procedure, who come here to work, be productive and not be a burden on others - WELCOME!

16 posted on 02/12/2013 1:13:12 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: xzins

Whooptie freakin’ do! Let Dr. Carson do the damn “response”. That, I would watch.


17 posted on 02/12/2013 1:13:23 PM PST by Edgar3 (Don't THREAD on me!)
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To: xzins

No Paul, the new group are not immigrants..they are illegal. I will not embrace them.


18 posted on 02/12/2013 1:16:06 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Little Ray
This is why the GOP is getting its arse kicked in national elections. They let the Commies control the language.

Exactly! Cannot be repeated enough. Should be a tagline.

19 posted on 02/12/2013 1:16:30 PM PST by tsowellfan (cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan

5 years?! Is your friend not permitted entry into her country?


20 posted on 02/12/2013 1:17:13 PM PST by posterchild
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To: xzins; Liz
Paul will urge GOP to embrace immigrants,

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The GOP can have a hugin with immigrants if they want too...

Just as long as they tell illegal aliens


21 posted on 02/12/2013 1:19:41 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: posterchild
5 years?! Is your friend not permitted entry into her country?

She lives in Vietnam and was told by the US Embassy that the process for a fiancee visa is slow. Mostly because of the illegal Mexicans who skipped the line and using up government resources.

22 posted on 02/12/2013 1:22:23 PM PST by tsowellfan (cafenetamerica.com)
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To: xzins

Watching this development. Illegal aliens are not immigrants. They are illegal.


23 posted on 02/12/2013 1:24:13 PM PST by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: Little Ray
Does he mean immigrants or illegal aliens?

Anymore, that's a distinction without a difference. The inundation from south of the border comes in both forms. To a large extent, the Mexicans with documentation vote in lock-step with the socialists. Their social Conservatism is a much of a myth as their economic Conservatism.

Nearly half of these so-called "Latinos", illegal aliens and otherwise, favor sodomite marriage. Aside from possibly Chile, name one country in South or Central America that can even remotely be characterized as Conservative. Nearly all are corrupt third-world cesspools with socialized medicine, soaring crime rates and all of the ills characteristic of Marxist ideology.

24 posted on 02/12/2013 1:30:32 PM PST by re_nortex
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To: xzins

“embrace immigrants”? What the H*** is THAT suposed to mean?


25 posted on 02/12/2013 1:32:36 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: xzins

Well, I certainly hope Paul makes a distinction between LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and ILLEGAL ALIENS. If he deliberately tries blurring that line, I won’t have much use for him. His record so far has been quite solid and I do like him, but I can’t deny his father makes me extremely uneasy (and I well recall how a lot of libertarians were promoting wide open borders, at least before the 2007 pushback against Bush’s amnesty attempt).


26 posted on 02/12/2013 1:34:28 PM PST by greene66
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To: xzins

Embrace “immigrants”? Is Rand going to wear a cool leather jacket while he’s jumping the shark?


27 posted on 02/12/2013 1:34:53 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. We need to start over.)
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To: xzins

Damn. I must really be on the fringe.


28 posted on 02/12/2013 1:37:44 PM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: tsowellfan

I understand it is a slow process. Why is he not marrying her there? It might be easier to bring a wife here than a fiancee. At least they will be together while they wait.


29 posted on 02/12/2013 1:38:01 PM PST by posterchild
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To: re_nortex

That is a different issue. We do need to reform immigration and make certain it is for the benefit of the Republic. But the invasion of this country by other across the southern border or by overstaying visas need to be addressed separately.


30 posted on 02/12/2013 1:38:07 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: freedumb2003; Mozilla
>> Should be interesting to see what Rubio and Rand have to say tonight. << >> I can pre-quote Rubio: AMNESTIA MI COMPADRES! <<<

Here is the basic gist of both Senators upcoming messages:

Marco Rubio, a "Tea party" candidate who is supposedly a "RINO" now, even though his supporters swore up and down he was nothing like Mel Martinez: Democrats spend too much of your money. We in the tea party believe it's time to cut spending and let you keep more of what you earn. Immigrants make a wonderful contribution to America, regardless of their legal status. We're not anti-immigrant, in fact we're gonna let illegal aliens become citizens and give them a pathway to the citizenship if they pay a fine and go to the 'back of the line'. This is not amnesty. And this time we really will secure the borders, trust us.

Rand Paul, a "Tea party" candidate who is supposedly a "true conservative" now even though his dad is looney tunes: Democrats spend too much of your money. We in the tea party believe it's time to cut spending and let you keep more of what you earn. Immigrants make a wonderful contribution to America, regardless of their legal status. We're not anti-immigrant, in fact we're gonna let illegal aliens become citizens and give them a pathway to the citizenship if they pay a fine and go to the 'back of the line'. This is not amnesty. And this time we really will secure the borders, trust us.

31 posted on 02/12/2013 1:51:20 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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>>We’re not anti-immigrant, in fact we’re gonna let illegal aliens become citizens and give them a pathway to the citizenship if they pay a fine and go to the ‘back of the line’. This is not amnesty.<<

Excellent summary of damn near all of the RINOs (and those wearing the Tea Party fig leaf).


32 posted on 02/12/2013 1:53:43 PM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: RIghtwardHo

>>“embrace immigrants”? What the H*** is THAT suposed to mean?<<

If he doesn’t clarify illegal aliens vs. legal immigrants it just means amnesty.


33 posted on 02/12/2013 1:55:45 PM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: xzins

embrace immigrants, cut spending

mutually exclusive positions!

GOP suicide pact


34 posted on 02/12/2013 2:00:05 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Who writes these headlines for CNN????

To the tune of 1 million+ per year, we have been, are, and will continue embracing LEGAL immigrants.

What is SO HARD about comprehending the difference between "Legal" and "Illegal"????

35 posted on 02/12/2013 2:03:55 PM PST by cookcounty
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To: freedumb2003

He won’t make that clear at all because he is a nutburger just like his dad.
The little acorn hasn’t fallen far from the tree and like his sh!t for bains pater he will make it out as if conservatives have opposed immigration in general rather than unregulated imigration without background checks and self sustaining finances as a requirement.

His little numb nuts followers will still ooh and aah over him.


36 posted on 02/12/2013 2:12:07 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: cookcounty; P-Marlowe

I support legal immigration.

I do NOT support the status quo on illegal immigration with its open/porous borders, illegal invasion, ruined education, medical and social service budgets, criminals, gangs, and drug trafficking..

There are those politicians and money changers who profit mightily from the status quo.

Doing NOTHING is supporting the status quo. Waiting for the perfect politician with the perfect plan and the perfect Senate and the perfect House and the perfect President, all of whom will advance the perfect plan is an exercise in fantasy. I will personally write a check for $1000 to one freeper or charity of choice when we get a conservative President, filibuster-proof conservative Senate, and conservative House.

It’s not going to happen in the 20-40 years that insurance companies say I have left on this planet. And doing nothing gives us the status quo.

Which I despise, and which is part of what is ruining America.


37 posted on 02/12/2013 2:16:38 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: freedumb2003
If he doesn’t clarify illegal aliens vs. legal immigrants it just means amnesty.

I'll elaborate a bit more on a prior post of mine in this thread. Having a piece of paper does NOT, in itself, mean that the immigrant has assimilated. Focusing on Mexicans in particular, it's not only the illegals that are a problem but those who do have the proper documentation. So many of these "citizens" brazenly cling to the country of their heritage, embracing socialism, draining our country with their dependence on entitlements, waving the Mexican flag and speaking Spanish.

Calvin Coolidge had the right approach when he stated:

American institutions rest solely on good citizenship. They were created by people who had a background of self-government. New arrivals should be limited to our capacity to absorb them into the ranks of good citizenship. America must be kept American. For this purpose it is necessary to continue a policy of restricted immigration. It would be well to make such immigration of a selective nature with some inspection at the source, and based either on a prior census or upon the record of naturalization. Either method would insure the admission of those with the largest capacity and best intention of becoming citizen. Those who do not want to be partakers of the American spirit ought not to settle in America.

Remember this unforgettable incident from a few years ago at Montebello High School in California?

Well, it wasn't done by illegals! The goons who did this despicable act were just as American as you or I. At least on paper. Of course, the reality is far different. Indeed, the words of President Coolidge, who was greatly admired by President Ronald Reagan reverberate every time I hear a politician of any stripe proclaim that we should indiscriminately welcome immigrants:

Those who do not want to be partakers of the American spirit ought not to settle in America.

38 posted on 02/12/2013 2:23:17 PM PST by re_nortex
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To: xzins

Sounds like Rand Paul is another Amnesty Liberal

If you cannot commit to deporting Illegal Aliens....you support Illegal Alien Amnesty

Also...anyone who is not emphasizing Americans first....is neither Conservative nor American

Stop the spinning ....stop the BS


39 posted on 02/12/2013 2:25:03 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: SeminoleCounty
Also...anyone who is not emphasizing Americans first....is neither Conservative nor American

Well said and I agree totally as should be evident from my posts in this thread.

If you cannot commit to deporting Illegal Aliens....you support Illegal Alien Amnesty

I was a big fan of Tom Tancredo but he was marginalized as an extremist by the effete wing of the GOP-e.

I'll give my full support to a candidate who wants to restore American greatness by apologetically endorsing and advocating a 21st Century implementation of Operation Wetback, a highly effective program that led to 1,300,000 illegals heading back to Mexico. With our improved technology some 60 years later, I can see 12,000,000 or more illegals gone.

So what do we lack? Simple. The will.

40 posted on 02/12/2013 2:52:41 PM PST by re_nortex
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To: xzins

President of the United States of America Valery Jarrett has asked Teleprompter Guest Speaker Benghazi-Coward Hussein Obama to give her hand-written State of the Union speech tonight.

President Jarrett wants to remind all present that Democrats never keep their promises, and is using Sen. Teddy Bare Kennedy’s Amnesty deal with Pres. Reagan to underscore how stupid and gullible Republican politicians truly are.

The Kennedy Lie that conned Reagan has resulted in 11 Million Mexicans illegally invading the USA.

With Bolshevik Pride, President Jarret is bringing some of these Illegal aliens to the Bolshevik speech by Hussein Obama so that more Mexicans will be encouraged to illegally invade the USA.

Thus, the expected increase of the mighty weight of the next major invasion of Illegal Mexicans draining away the free stuff of the USA Welfare State will truly be the millstone that grinds America into the final halt that Jarrett and Hussein O. have worked so hard to achieve all of their sorry lives.

BTW, the one thing that will not be discussed by Hussein O. is just what really is The State of the Union.


41 posted on 02/12/2013 3:00:14 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Law s, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: xzins

I think the majority of the American Citizenry do not have a problem with Legal Immigrants.

But show me an illegal, river swimming, grass crawling invader and I will show you a person that needs to be drug back across the border by his or her genitals back across the border.

These type are not immigrants they are law breakers and are not qualified for citizenship to this great country.


42 posted on 02/12/2013 3:00:38 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Graewoulf
The Kennedy Lie that conned Reagan has resulted in 11 Million Mexicans illegally invading the USA.

It was the same evil Ted Kennedy who "honored" his equally vile brother with the Immigration Act of 1965. In his advocacy of the act, Teddy series of lies included this statement:

"First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same. Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset. Contrary to the charges in some quarters, (the Immigration Reform Act) will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia. In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs."

Really, was there no end to the deceit of this utterly wicked man?

43 posted on 02/12/2013 3:09:11 PM PST by re_nortex
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To: re_nortex

Yup. Same as now. Whatever a Democrat says, just KNOW that the opposite will be true.

BTW, you and I know this, so why are our sorry RINOs soooooooooooo very stupid? Must be the water in DC.


44 posted on 02/12/2013 3:21:28 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Law s, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: xzins

RE: Paul will urge GOP to embrace immigrants

LEGAL or ILLEGAL?

There’s a vast difference and without qualifying it’s hard to tell whether the above is supportable.


45 posted on 02/12/2013 3:34:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: xzins

Tea Party? Right (heavy sarcasm) Just a nut job like his old man.


46 posted on 02/12/2013 3:34:24 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: southernindymom

“So he’s the Tea Party spokesperson? Hummmm I don’t know a lot about him but I think his dad’s from another planet”

He might not be as outwardly loony as his dad, but he’s a hypocrite just like the old man.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/05/14/rand-paul-cut-spending-but-not-medicare-doctor-payments/

Cut federal spending, but not the federal spending I get!

He’s not worthy of being a Tea Party spokesman. Not if we want to have any shred of credibility or intellectual integrity. And not if we want to be able to draw new people into the movement.


47 posted on 02/12/2013 4:55:31 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: re_nortex

Don’t worry. Plenty of ‘conservatives’ will be explaining why it’s OK to support the very party and people rolling over on illegals.

I am starting to think ‘Moderate’ is the new conservative around here. Last night one was going on about how supporting Rubio despite his preaching for the dream act/illegals was in fact, conservative.

Getting ever closer by the hour to just saying to hell with it and letting these idiots destroy the country. They seem to want it both ways.

If the most conservative site on the net is so lousy with apologists and moderates, and it is, there is no hope for anything. We are done.


48 posted on 02/12/2013 5:17:13 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Republican politicians are all idiots. Every time one of these morons opens his mouth and says Republicans need to be more welcoming to immigrants, they are buying into the Democrat/media slander machine. Republicans are in favour of immigration when it benefits Americans: i.e. when the people coming here are from societies that are known to be hard working, peaceful and willing to integrate with those who are already in America. That excludes anyone who is lying or cheating their way across the border and anyone who holds to an ideology that wants to destroy America from within. Conservatives suffer enough from scurrilous attacks from the Dems and their allies without Republican fellow travellers piling on.


49 posted on 02/12/2013 6:30:10 PM PST by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: VanDeKoik
Oh, f*cking shut up, Paul.

If you dont get what the hell people are talking about then dont say anything.

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Now THAT I understand!

ROFLMAO!!! First time I've smiled & laughed this evening!

There is absolutely no way that I can improve on the clarity & direct nature of that comment!

50 posted on 02/12/2013 8:00:13 PM PST by rcrngroup
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