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Christopher Dorner shootout: 1 deputy killed, 1 wounded, sources say
The Los Angeles Times ^ | February 12, 2013

Posted on 02/12/2013 4:47:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

One of the deputies involved in a gun battle Tuesday afternoon with fugitive former police officer Christopher Dorner has died of his wounds, law enforcement sources told The Times.

The San Bernardino County sheriff's deputy was airlifted to Loma Linda University Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead, according to the sources.

Another deputy was also wounded in the shootout near a cabin where Dorner was believed to be holed up in the snow-covered mountains near Big Bear. His condition was not immediately known.

The afternoon gun battle in which hundreds of rounds were exchanged was part of a quickly changing situation that began after Dorner allegedly broke into a home, tied up a couple and held them hostage before fleeing with their white pickup truck, authorities said.

Then Dorner was allegedly spotted by state Fish and Wildlife officers in the pickup truck, sources said. A vehicle-to-vehicle shootout ensued. The officers' vehicle was peppered with multiple rounds, according to authorities...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; chrisdorner; christopherdorner; copbashingonfr; copkiller; crime; donutwatch; dorner; goodriddance; keywordtrolls; lapd; losangeles; massmurderer; officerdown; rambro; sanbernadino; shootout
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Prayers for the two officer's families.
1 posted on 02/12/2013 4:47:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It looks like he is either fried in the cabin or escaped. The cabin is engulfed in flames.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/live-video/#listen-live


2 posted on 02/12/2013 4:49:49 PM PST by Big_Harry (Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wait til they start trying to take guns from normal people.


3 posted on 02/12/2013 4:54:18 PM PST by Principled
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To: Big_Harry

They’re saying he got away ....


4 posted on 02/12/2013 4:56:54 PM PST by Ken522
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To: Ken522

Well, they also heard a single gunshot just before the fire started. That was just after several rounds of tear gas were fired into the cabin. Hopefully the cowardly leftist thug shot himself.


5 posted on 02/12/2013 5:00:06 PM PST by Big_Harry (Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
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To: Big_Harry

Fox News just broke away from the Anna Nicole Smith death story for this news.....


6 posted on 02/12/2013 5:00:52 PM PST by llevrok (Unlike Obama, at least Nero could play a fiddle.)
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To: Ken522

got away? That would be crazy. I am not sure they would admit it if he got away...


7 posted on 02/12/2013 5:02:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Ken522

How does one overweight individual elude the LAPD (10,023 officers), the San Bernadino Sheriff’s office (3,200 officers) plus all the other Los Angeles area police units? Something stinks here.


8 posted on 02/12/2013 5:03:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Principled

This sordid event is not going to help the gungrabbers’ argument when they say “this only PROVES that citizens must be disarmed! Look what one rogue ex-cop did!”


9 posted on 02/12/2013 5:03:29 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is watching the situation closely unlike Bengazi. He is worried it might interfere with his Marist sou message. Probably had a drone waiting to take care of things before 9pm

Sarcasm folks


10 posted on 02/12/2013 5:04:26 PM PST by Integrityingovt (Obama watching developments)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Christopher-Dorner-LAPD-Manhunt-Search-Big-Bear-190902721.html#ixzz2KinEwch9

Live feed above. I don’t understand why they said they are just going to let the cabin burn to the ground. What? So no body will be found and we won’t know if he’s dead or alive or whether he died here or how.


11 posted on 02/12/2013 5:04:44 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The 2nd amendment is NOT about hunting-but protection from a tyrannical govt)
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To: elcid1970

Which, by the way, appears to have been a part of Dorner’s agenda.


12 posted on 02/12/2013 5:04:52 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: GeronL

I doubt they’d be sure that he got away at this point. If they’re allowing fire trucks in they have his body.


13 posted on 02/12/2013 5:11:28 PM PST by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope his hostages were freed before he burned the cabin down. I can’t believe anyone, even the left, would make this despicable person any kind of a “hero”. I suppose it doesn’t matter how many innocent people get murdered as long as they can make him representative (in their minds) as supporting the “cause”. What if he kills children? What if he kills someone in one of their favored “victim groups”? Apparently the people he’s already killed, even the minorities, don’t count.

Sometimes a killer is just a killer, no matter how he tries to give it political cover.


14 posted on 02/12/2013 5:13:33 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This should be a good training video for any idiot that thinks he will be able to defend his house with several thousand rounds of ammo and a cache of weapons when the SHTF.


15 posted on 02/12/2013 5:14:09 PM PST by Big_Harry (Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
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To: elcid1970

yeah and they’re _looking_ for him.


16 posted on 02/12/2013 5:17:08 PM PST by Principled
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To: Big_Harry

Very possible he could have been wounded when he got into a gunfight the two Fish & Game cops and/or when he was shot at by the two LE officers at the cabin.


17 posted on 02/12/2013 5:19:21 PM PST by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

if you know his training background compared to the affirmative action badge-toters and man-hating lesbians that make up the police forces today, he’s probably got more skills and abilities than most of those cops.


18 posted on 02/12/2013 5:19:39 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Big_Harry
Ever watch “Preppers” on National Geographic? Some of those people live in storage units stacked on top of one another. They demonstrated to the film crew that no common caliber of rifle or pistol ammunition could penetrate the sides.
19 posted on 02/12/2013 5:20:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Big_Harry

OMG a fire! Guess they learned a lot from Waco. I saw it was the tear gas canisters that set the fire.

A question: With all his training and equipment, does it seem logical that he would anticipate and prepare for tear gas? Don’t get me wrong, I certainly hope they got him. I just wonder what other alternatives were available in this age of thermal imaging, etc.


20 posted on 02/12/2013 5:20:51 PM PST by Boomer One
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To: Big_Harry

Well, its certainly a good training video for any idiot thinking of taking on an army of police and all the resources at their disposal.


21 posted on 02/12/2013 5:22:20 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Secret Agent Man
Anyone who spent more than a year in the service at any level, much less a commissioned officer who was in a riverene unit, should be able to run circles around the average non-veteran police officer. But he's up against thousands of police.
22 posted on 02/12/2013 5:23:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Big_Harry
any idiot that thinks he will be able to defend his house

A. They haven't got him yet. B. The best way to defend a fixed position is from outside the fixed position.

/johnny

23 posted on 02/12/2013 5:25:00 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: skeeter
I doubt they’d be sure that he got away at this point. If they’re allowing fire trucks in they have his body.

Chances are they won't let firefighters in while they fear ammo cooking off and possible propane tanks blowing.

..add to that, they are probably more than happy to just contain the fire (which shouldn't be hard in an area with snow on the ground) and go in later and look for the bones.

He killed a decent local Sheriff's deputy on the way out and wounded another...that stinks.
24 posted on 02/12/2013 5:26:01 PM PST by DJlaysitup
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To: All; skeeter

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


25 posted on 02/12/2013 5:26:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: JRandomFreeper
B. The best way to defend a fixed position is from outside the fixed position.

Agreed but they said (albeit on CNN) that there was an exchange of gunfire from inside the cabin against tactical officers who had by then surrounded the cabin (after the deputies got shot). If that's they case it sounds like Dorner is now burnt toast.

Of course it's early and the story will likely change - who knows - Jessica Lynch may end up being the hero.
26 posted on 02/12/2013 5:31:17 PM PST by DJlaysitup
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To: Principled

Pretty much...it might be quit the surprise when the entire neighborhood turns out for ‘mutual aid’.


27 posted on 02/12/2013 5:35:00 PM PST by 556x45
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To: JRandomFreeper

Never fix your position. Never assault civilians. Work alone and work quietly.


28 posted on 02/12/2013 5:38:57 PM PST by Big_Harry (Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
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To: DJlaysitup

I’ll bet the owner of the cabin is delighted as she watches it burn up on TV. Just as well. If the guy died and the cabin stood, then it would forever be known as the cabin of the shootout. Hope she has it insured.


29 posted on 02/12/2013 5:43:26 PM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Big_Harry

I guess it never occurred to you those “idiots” aren’t planning to do it all by their lonesomes (eyeroll).


30 posted on 02/12/2013 5:45:11 PM PST by papertyger
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
fleeing with their white pickup truck

...hmmm.

31 posted on 02/12/2013 5:45:24 PM PST by Dartman (Mubarak and Gaddafi are going to look like choirboys when this is over)
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To: flaglady47

THe black smoke now coming from the cabin would indicate that POL is burning.
Before it was grey wood smoke. It will be a long time before they can sift the ashes for his remains.


32 posted on 02/12/2013 5:47:06 PM PST by Oldexpat
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"I’ll bet the owner of the cabin is delighted as she watches it burn up..."

Maybe not, if not insured. Yet you can bet there will be a lawsuit, and the taxpayers will have to foot the bill.

33 posted on 02/12/2013 5:48:45 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: JRandomFreeper

“B. The best way to defend a fixed position is from outside the fixed position.

/johnny “

Especially when you know their habit of setting fire to said fixed positions. Don’t get me wrong, the POS needs killing, just commenting on LEO tactics


34 posted on 02/12/2013 5:50:14 PM PST by Figment
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To: Big_Harry

That isn’t the way we fight. Booby traps. Watch house from outside. neighbors join. We don’t have everything figured out,but just shooting into a horde of armed anything is just committing suicide. And, as Churchill said, fight anyway, even if you know you may lose, because living under tyranny is not an option.


35 posted on 02/12/2013 5:50:14 PM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Figment
He needed killing when he ambushed the innocents.

Everyone is carefully watching how the tactics on both sides play out.

/johnny

36 posted on 02/12/2013 5:54:33 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: DJlaysitup

“He killed a decent local Sheriff’s deputy on the way out and wounded another...that stinks.”

Everything about this case stinks. The police killed, the police family killed, the innocent civilians attacked by police... The outcome of this is going to be ugly from every angle.


37 posted on 02/12/2013 5:54:43 PM PST by Figment
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To: Boomer One

There was a basement at the cabin and he did fill some scuba tanks prior to his “evil escapades”. Could he be in the basement breathing from a tank? I would think the heat would be really bad. In all likelihood he is toast.


38 posted on 02/12/2013 5:59:51 PM PST by liege
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
KFI AM 640 ‏@KFIAM640 KFI will not carry the State of the Union address due to continuing coverage of #Dorner manhunt. You can listen to it live on @ktlkam1150.
39 posted on 02/12/2013 6:02:11 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Impossible that ‘hundreds’ of rounds were fired...I’ve been told over and over by politicians and the press that we only need a few bullets to end an altercation.


40 posted on 02/12/2013 6:13:38 PM PST by SpitfyrAce
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Waco 2. This sure look staged on State of the Caliphate speech day..

Or maybe Ruby Ridge 2.


41 posted on 02/12/2013 6:14:46 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: Big_Harry

Well looks like he fried. He ain’t Charles Bronson.


42 posted on 02/12/2013 6:22:23 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Boomer One

Dorner did prepare for tear gas by purchasing scuba gear with oxygen tanks. That lone gun shot just when the fire broke out tells me that nothing will protect one from suicide.


43 posted on 02/12/2013 6:23:30 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Wisconsinlady

“So no body will be found and we won’t know if he’s dead or alive or whether he died here or how”

bin Laden comes to mind.


44 posted on 02/12/2013 6:24:26 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: 556x45

Considering the American response over the last few months, I have the feeling that in the circumstances you describe it will not be the citizens who have to hole up and try to survive. I bet they would go on offense and stay on offense until the threat of tyranny is over and its willing agents and complicit parties are room temperature, just root them out and destroy them once and for all. Hopefully it never goes there, but that’s what I think awaits any would-be Mussolini and his minions.


45 posted on 02/12/2013 6:24:56 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: Boomer One

What kind of fire burns huge flames for hours on end. An oil fire. Nothing else. A wooden cabin that catches on fire, without oil being around, is going to go up fast and the fire will be over in no time. A body easily identifiable. An oil fire will burn all day and the body would be incinerated. No DNA match will be possible. Of course the cops will say they recovered the body, but no one will ever know if he pulled a hoodini or not.


46 posted on 02/12/2013 6:32:04 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Ken522

He was “abused” and if tried would be acquitted because of white racists. UCMTU


47 posted on 02/12/2013 6:44:37 PM PST by willardwx
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Second that, prayers to the officer’s families.


48 posted on 02/12/2013 6:46:06 PM PST by Antihero101607
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To: Big_Harry

Re: defending ground zero

When the SHTF we are going proactive. We defend nothing, if it comes to this.


50 posted on 02/12/2013 6:53:29 PM PST by nonsporting
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