Skip to comments.Is DHS Ammo For Obama's "National Security Force"?
Posted on 02/12/2013 5:18:39 PM PST by raptor22
Gun Control: Our future president in 2008 called for "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the military. Should the "bitter-clingers" be worried?
As Andrew Malcolm has noted on these pages, the Department of Homeland Security has been buying lots of ammo, enough by one calculation to fight the equivalent of a 24-year Iraqi War. Some have speculated about a link between the stockpiling between candidate Obama's off-prompter campaign remarks about a national security force and the stockpiling by DHS of more than 1.6 billion (with a 'b') bullets.
DHS has been buying more than bullets. As we noted in a recent editorial, DHS is seeking to acquire 7,000 5.56x45mm NATO "personal defense weapons" (PDW) also known as "assault weapons" when owned by civilians. The request, issued on June 7, 2012, calls these AR-15 variants "select-fire" weapons, meaning they can be both semi-automatic and automatic.
Additionally, DHS is asking for 30 round magazines that "have a capacity to hold thirty (30) 5.56x45mm NATO rounds."
To what purpose is a civilian agency arming itself to the teeth at the same time the administration has been making war on the Second Amendment and pushing for stricter gun control measures such as universal background checks, while others, such as New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, hint at outright confiscation?
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One point six billion cartridges? What calculations bring you to a couple boxes each?
Homeland Security’s not reselling ammo to anyone. Who would they ‘resell’ to anyhow? A foreign country? The Sauds? Social Security’s also making large buys.
Too bad we don’t have a free press or they could ask and investigate and find out. If a Republican President5 was setting up a personal army the press would care... Hey New York Times, I’m talkin’ about you.
I didn’t say the DHS was buying it at a discount, to resell it. I said somebody was buying it at a discount and selling it at a generous markup.
Who is the DHS buying these bullets from?
Zactly....and it would be an immense pleasure to do exactly that.....
"Seasoned troops" are those who have been mustered by their officers and assaulted and peppered by the enemy.
Sorry, I couldn't resist it.
These orders started as Government Purchasing RFQ's that were negotiated finally becoming long range PO's.
This ammo is being sold to the government not just some guy. The RFQ's were specific by agency and then broken down into the various rounds required. Also noted that very little of it was target ammo.
Here is an example from the Social Security Administration:
to shoot to kill any and all Americans
Would you like brown shirts of black shirts with those bullets?
DHS Purchase of 450 Million Rounds
In March of 2012 the Department of Homeland Security had an order filled by ATK of Minnesota to provide 450 million rounds of .40 caliber bullets.
If one was really interested the information is all over the Internet.
The Border Patrol is just one agency among many in DHS and it uses nearly 20 million rounds a year just on basic qualifications.
Over a ten year period that would be almost have of the 450 million DHS order.
To me this is somewhat of a non issue. The more important development is the creation of the Office Diversity and Civil Rights under CBP.
Then why is this the first time ever that this much ammo was ordered?
This is a little bit more important than some stupid Office of Diversity created by a hate whitey homo muslim.
What is a legitimate militia, how does it form. and to whom does it report.
If ammo makers don’t get into the fight they will be out of business when all the guns are taken.
I think they are taking the existing ammo off the shelves ahead of an order for microstamped / registered ammo sales.
Because Lake City does not make hollow-point, non-Geneva-Convention ammo; just copper-jacketed steel rifle ball ammo and copper-clad round-nose pistol ammo? Only civilian ammo mfrs make hollow-point fragmenting ammo to kill civilians with? Hmmmm?
Do you have a source for any previous ammo orders?
We gave our country to these people.
But at least got to act like the smartest people in the room. :)
Anyone know what a DHS basic load is? How much does each person carry on them?
There may have been a pun intended.