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Just read Dorner's Manifesto - Holy Cow - Frightening
Vanity | 2/12/2013 | DJlaysitup

Posted on 02/12/2013 8:02:05 PM PST by DJlaysitup

Wow. I just read Dorner's manifesto in detail and was flabbergasted. What in the world is our modern society coming to? To be honest it reminded me (on reflection) very much of what I read years ago about the Columbine killers. There are honestly a growing group of people in this world who believe that if everything doesn't go their way - it's basically authorization to go wild and take muderous retribution...


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KEYWORDS: culture; dorner; dornermanifesto; manifesto; modern
...are these people simply spoiled? Do they think everything has to go their way in life? Do they even realize the trials and tribulations their fore-fathers went through?

Here we had a guy who was obviously not cut out to be a cop in the first place...sure...you can say he was wronged to some degree...but what is his response? To go nuts and murder innocent people. Another thing - he doesn't seem to have any respect for his own life...something that his kin fought for him to have over the generations.

This is a character flaw that is raising it's head more and more IMO and scares me (for the sake of my own kids). Do these young people think that if their lives don't go perfectly they don't have to work for the future?

The manifesto also reminded me of a "news special" I saw awhile back about young people in a muslim country. They were interviewing a young, fairly well educated person and asked that person about plans for the future. The answer was (I swear) "I want to work for Microsoft". The next question was "what if that doesn't work out for you?"...and the answer was "I may become a suicide bomber". Holy Cow! Is this becoming the generation of "get everything you want...or go out in a blaze of glory taking as many others out with you as you can?

As somebody who wasn't born with a whole lot of advantages, the son of a father who had less advantages, and a grandfather who had even less...I am simply stunned.

Now I realize that the vast majority of our youth today...at least the ones who were brought up right...understand what life is all about and actually have a "work ethic"...but more and more we are seeing these oddball young people (and I count Dorner as young - especially by his writing) who simply cannot accept things and do not have the patience to work over a lifetime to improve. It's mental and moral laziness IMO.

Thoughts?

1 posted on 02/12/2013 8:02:14 PM PST by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup

Ooops...sorry about the incorrect link...I seldom create a post.


2 posted on 02/12/2013 8:04:33 PM PST by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup

If they loaded the manifesto into Bambi’s teleprompter for the SOTU and he parroted it, nobody would bat an eye.


3 posted on 02/12/2013 8:04:52 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: DJlaysitup

I call them leftists


4 posted on 02/12/2013 8:05:15 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

bump


5 posted on 02/12/2013 8:07:21 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: DJlaysitup

Very rational analysis.


6 posted on 02/12/2013 8:09:04 PM PST by mnehring
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To: DJlaysitup
Basic right and wrong seem to have been thrown under the bus along the way.
7 posted on 02/12/2013 8:11:34 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: DJlaysitup

How did this clown get past both military and LAPD psychological testing?


8 posted on 02/12/2013 8:13:49 PM PST by doc1019 (The rabbit hole that Obama is leading us down just gets deeper and deeper.)
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To: DJlaysitup

So you finally looked into the heart of a liberal and found the Heart of Darkness that dwells inside all liberals, hidden far away behind the ‘empathetic’ gaze and compassionate half smile.

If they could get away with it, they’d kill us all and be done with it.


9 posted on 02/12/2013 8:18:32 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: DJlaysitup
If you grow up black in America, you are taught from birth that you have no chance. You can be elected president and think everyone that disagrees with you is a KKK racist that wants to lynch you. It's the same with pro football and basketball players. You can make millions and then get cut and it was for some ulterior motive.

White kids are different, but similar in the fact that there is some reason they don't rule the world. Of course it's not racism, but it must be some reason that the apple of his mom's eye is a failure. They are spoiled from birth with dad's credit card and all of the sudden they have to make their own way and it gets hard very quick. If you have to move back to mom's basement, you can either play XBox all day or start killing school children to prove you still matter. How many will humble themselves and go to work at Burger King until they get a break?

10 posted on 02/12/2013 8:21:47 PM PST by chuckles
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To: DJlaysitup

Mark my words — Hollywood will soon lionize this loser in a movie starring Denzel Washington.


11 posted on 02/12/2013 8:22:10 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: doc1019
How did this clown get past both military and LAPD psychological testing?

Good point...another thing about his "manifesto" is that it exposed an enormous ego and delusions of grandeur. In the last part he makes his "proclamations" about the goodness/badness of various politicians/world leaders/famous entertainers as if his opinions are supposed to be taken as some sort of important judgment upon them and society in general.
12 posted on 02/12/2013 8:23:54 PM PST by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup

So where is the correct link?


13 posted on 02/12/2013 8:24:29 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw
So where is the correct link?

Like I said...I apologize about not posting new topics much and not knowing exactly how to do it.

There is no link...it's simply a vanity.
14 posted on 02/12/2013 8:30:24 PM PST by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup

Here is a decent link to his full manifesto:

http://atlantadailyworld.com/201302083721/ADW-News/full-text-of-christopher-dorner-s-manifesto


15 posted on 02/12/2013 8:33:30 PM PST by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup

Oh, ok.
I found one,
http://laist.com/2013/02/07/christopher_dorners_manifesto_in_fu.php


16 posted on 02/12/2013 8:34:07 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: DJlaysitup

Entitled, they always got trophy’s because they are winners before. Now it’s not fair, and their going to get everyone back....

2 cents


17 posted on 02/12/2013 8:36:54 PM PST by foundedonpurpose (It's time for a fundamental restoration, of our country's principles!)
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To: DJlaysitup

By the way, Dorner is a stellar example of why the citizenry has an unalienable right to reliable Defense Rifles (they are not for assault, but for defense) with extended magazines.


18 posted on 02/12/2013 8:37:40 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: doc1019

Affirmative-Action.


19 posted on 02/12/2013 8:47:34 PM PST by drs1969
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To: DJlaysitup
There are honestly a growing group of people in this world who believe that if everything doesn't go their way - it's basically authorization to go wild and take muderous retribution...

when i read it a couple of days ago, i did not get that he expected everything to go his way... i got that he believed he was unjustly accused of something and lost his career over it... was he? i don't know... in any case, it does not justify his murder spree...

20 posted on 02/12/2013 8:48:50 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: DJlaysitup
Yeah, become a suicide bomber as a career change, how counter intuitive. Christ sake these people are insane. Imagine were he to be hired for Microsoft and he decided to go moonlighting on his secondary career choice.
21 posted on 02/12/2013 8:50:21 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: doc1019
How did this clown get past both military and LAPD psychological testing?

I don't know about this clown, and how he got through... but as to the quality of military pschological testing recall that the Ft. Hood massacre perp Nidal Hasan was a military psychologist in charge of counseling returning combat troops.

22 posted on 02/12/2013 8:56:03 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: DJlaysitup

He is dead, dead, dead. I worthless piece of trash discarded into the trash. Good riddance.


23 posted on 02/12/2013 9:08:39 PM PST by Katiana Kalashnikova
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To: DJlaysitup

I posted this earlier on the SOTU thread.

It was a reply to Jim Robinson.

To: Jim Robinson

I agree 100%

It’s just that today’s liberals/Progressives see communism and fascism as opposites.

They see conservatives represented by Republicans as the enemy and have put Republicans in the Fascist camp because it makes republicans easy targets.

It is my contention that Progressives think they are choosing the lesser of two evils. With no concept of life without top down control.

As 12 to 22 year old students learn the horror of Hitler, fascism and the holocaust, any force other than the US that fought them seems to have validity. A force that has at it’s foundation the utopian appeal of fairness and social justice. Nevermind the oppression, fear, purges and death required to achieve this utopia, it’s a work in progress after all.

Yes,

I know this.

Modern Liberalism and Progressives are a Death Cult.

They fear freedom, because it requires Faith in their fellow man.

They have no faith in their fellow man because they think everyone else thinks like them.

Selfish

Envious

Greedy

Prideful

and the list goes on.

They don’t trust us. Because they know themselves.

They don’t trust themselves, so they are perfectly happy to give control to the only higher power they can conceive.

I agree, it all comes down to belief in God.

Without God, there is no meaning to life.

Without meaning, everything is permissible.

In addition, I believe they suppress their own nature for self-gratification and convenience among their peers.

It is sad to say, but we are dealing with children, children that scream and yell, children that have found themselves in power.

They are fundamentally insecure and are fighting for their right to remain that way.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2987900/posts?q=1&;page=541


24 posted on 02/12/2013 9:12:30 PM PST by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: piasa

Good point, however this guy went through two psychological test ... one for the military and one for the LAPD. He apparently passed both.

I am not a fan of the false science of psychology, I think most physiology is BS science and this does nothing to discourage my thoughts.


25 posted on 02/12/2013 9:14:32 PM PST by doc1019 (The rabbit hole that Obama is leading us down just gets deeper and deeper.)
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To: Zeneta
Modern Liberalism and Progressives are a Death Cult. They fear freedom, because it requires Faith in their fellow man. They have no faith in their fellow man because they think everyone else thinks like them. Selfish Envious Greedy Prideful and the list goes on. They don’t trust us. Because they know themselves.

Yet they still trust liberals like themselves to be their absolute rulers.

26 posted on 02/12/2013 9:28:02 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: DJlaysitup

Young people these days are under a lot of pressure. Look at the debt they are going to have to pay off.


27 posted on 02/12/2013 9:32:11 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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Yet they still trust liberals like themselves to be their absolute rulers.


Yes,

Just like a child that runs to the parent that lets him do what he wants. The liberal/child supports other liberal children to rule them.

These liberal rulers tell them what they will do FOR THEM, while conservatives tell them what they will do TO THEM.


28 posted on 02/12/2013 9:34:34 PM PST by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: DJlaysitup

this guy’s ‘manifesto’ showed a fellow with a paranoid personality. his perception of reality was distinctly off. it is obvious he thought the world was against him and it was solely because of his race.


29 posted on 02/12/2013 9:58:50 PM PST by Nifster
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To: DJlaysitup

The liberals know they created the climate of hate that gives rise to this kind of activity and Dorner’s manifesto exposes that, so they are simply suppressing the manifesto.


30 posted on 02/12/2013 10:23:58 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: DJlaysitup

The New Soviet Man, American Edition.


31 posted on 02/12/2013 10:25:03 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: DJlaysitup

A piece of wisdom I heard recently:

Men, when they’re young, blame others for failures, while women blame themselves.

As they get older, man start blaming themselves, while women blame... themselves.


32 posted on 02/12/2013 10:28:26 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: doc1019

What military psych test are you referring to? I spent 22 years in the Army and never had one..................thank God.


33 posted on 02/12/2013 11:07:16 PM PST by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: doc1019

Affirmative action maybe? Look at Major Hassan he was pegged as a nut yet they kept him in and just sort of hid his love of jihad and then when he killed the unarmed soldiers they call it workplace violence.


34 posted on 02/13/2013 12:54:37 AM PST by funfan
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To: piasa

Nidal was a psychiatrist, a physician, with an MD and board certified.


35 posted on 02/13/2013 2:55:31 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: DJlaysitup

Just about the only psychological screening I know of in the military (and I was in a nuclear weapons MOS) was police records and self disclosed medical history. And of course, service record. Nothing will get from a nuclear assignment into an infantry unit faster than adverse information in your 201 file.

I don’t think psychometric screening is accurate enough to reliably predict anything like this. If everyone who occasionally indulged in self-pity and resentment was removed from the Services, we’d have to depend on the Little Sisters of the Poor and Trappist Monks to defend the country, and only about half of them would pass the screening.


36 posted on 02/13/2013 3:01:45 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: doc1019

“How did this clown get past both military and LAPD psychological testing”

could have been “color coding”.............if you know what I mean.


37 posted on 02/13/2013 4:12:11 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: DJlaysitup

“Do they think everything has to go their way in life?”

that’s what happens when someone is given a pass in life beause of minority status(theres one in the Whitehouse right now)........the word NO does not compute and when they hear it they blow a fuse. Wait till the entitlement programs run out of $$ then your really going to see something.


38 posted on 02/13/2013 4:21:23 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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