Posted on 02/13/2013 4:44:23 AM PST by spirited irish
Or you could expose the doctrinal errors. Remember, most “Mormon-bashing” consists of people using the church’s own words. If I went to the UMC website and posted the church’s own words, that’s not Methodist bashing. If I posted John Wesley’s own words, that’s not Methodist bashing. If I posted John Knox’s own words, that’s not Presbyterian bashing.
The difference is this: I am allowed and willing to criticize my church when it is wrong. And I do so quite often. When a Mormon is confronted with the words of the church or its leaders, they can have several responses.
Example: The church says God lives on the planet Kolob.
1. That is factually incorrect.
2. That is correct but I don’t believe that myself
3. That is correct and I believe it is true
4. You are bashing my religion.
For some reason, #4 seems to be the default answer.
If someone came in and said “John Wesley didn’t want to split with the Anglican church”, as a Methodist I would respond with #2 and never #4.
lds practice polygamy they do not think its wrong.
Many lds groups openly practice, some hide it, the SLC lds have their celestial marriage “marrying people after they die”.
It is not possible to be in the high level of celestial being with out many wives.
But, hey only 15% or so of lds reach this level, so maybe the other levels do not need multi wives.
You are almost there...
Well, that would not be mormonISM.
“If God did not make Mary pregnant, then who did?”
Not who. What. The Holy Spirit. It was a miracle. She remained a virgin even though she were pregnant. There was no sex.
I am talking about the authority of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints, which has been against polygamy in doctrine since the 19th century. Yes, there are offshoots that still practice it and are consistent with the teachings in their book, but those offshoots are considered heretical by the mother church.
Except mormonISM does not oppose either.
Then where is your opposition to mormonISM?
Actually, I do. I simply pointed out where you anointed yourself as the one to pick and choose which scriptures are worthy of the 'heresy' label and which ones do not.
br>youre into the politically-correct idea of not judging....
Actually, it was Jesus' idea. You obviously don't recognize scriptural authority when you see it.
..and youre fine with blasphemy, even agree with it.
Neither am I fine with it nor have I ever agreed with it.
No need in going further here. You have a nice day.
So this is how you end it by falsely attributing positions to me which I do not hold in order for you to escape being challenged? You have a nice day as well.
Who said anything about sex?
Oh man. That would be awesome. :)
n 1832, Jesus Christ appeared in a vision to Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon. Both men saw and conversed with him (D&C 76:14) and also witnessed a vision of the kingdoms to which mankind will be assigned in the life hereafter.
The Lord also appeared to Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery in April 1836 in the Kirtland Temple shortly after its dedication and manifested his acceptance of this first latter-day temple (D&C 110:1-10).
And then of course when Jesus was born, and also when Jesus came to America and killed all those people, so really way more than three times.
You raise excellent questions regarding biblical authority.
Now, my question is this. Who do you regard as the highest authority concerning what counts as canon? Which books did they say count?
That’s an LDS teaching. God had sex with Mary.
I really don’t discount the human element. Earlier I posted that the accuracy of the documents is nearly 100%....to be exact, 99.5%. If God alone was involved, it would be 100%.
The Council of Nicea came together to deal with the heresy of Arianism, which held that Jesus was a man (much like Mormonism). You say there were compromises, but we don’t know that. We have no evidence to support such a claim. At the time, the early church was already using books which were agreed upon to be undisputed canon (the Gospels and Paul’s letters).
As for Noah, it took him decades to build the ark, and Scripture says that the animals came to him and went onto it. Clearly those animals would have had to be led by God to do so. And I don’t need much faith to believe that, really. The biggest miracle of all-—Creation——had already occurred, so yeah, I can believe the ark account.
And you would be wrong. SLC lds practice polygamy.
Not everyone of course, but the 15% temple worthy do and a few who hide the deed.
Polygamy is necessary for the highest level of celestial being.
There is a reason SLC lds is pushing (not opposing) homosexuals.....that becomes legal then open polygamy will follow.
Well and truly stated. But of course the one to whom you responded isn’t interested in truth as it comes to these threads to play contrarian.
The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created BY Him.
Pray they repent of their falsehoods and see the Truth.
The lds-org is a thief of the Name and the Truth of Jesus Christ.
Thanks for the insight. I disagree, but I guess that is why I am Catholic... have 2,000 years of history filled with examples of free will leading to human flaw faltering the Word of God.
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