Posted on 02/13/2013 7:59:52 AM PST by Kaslin
Mary Virginia Wade, better known as Jennie Wade, was the only civilian killed during the American Civil War Battle of Gettysburg, Pennsylvania on July 3, 1863 while baking bread for Union soldiers in the now famous tourist destination, the Jennie Wade House. She was struck by a single bullet that traveled through two wooden doors killing her instantly. Jennie Wade was 20 years old. The house looks very much the same as it did over 140 years ago. The house was actually the residence of Jennie's sister, Georgia McClella
The terms of the Treaty of Versailles were far harsher than the promises made at the time of the Armistices. There was a breakdown in civil order in Germany after the Armistice and the suspension of submarine warfare and arming of the United States tipped the balance of power towards the Allies. The Treaty was imposed on Germany at gunpoint. In civil law, a contract entered into under duress or extortion is not valid. Morally, the same applies to Versailles.
Besides, by your logic, the French were bound by the second Versailles Treaty and were obliged to fight to for Hitler.
Lee could have marched into DC but didn’t since he had no desire to take over the North. The James brothers simply responded to jay hawkers entering Mo to hang innocent men in front of their families, many of which never owned slaves. After the Feds attacked and killed his little brother the torch of vengeance was lit. Too much blood on every side, but we must preserve union power over the underlings.
BTW, Maryland was a Southern state. Did you forget?
One which did not pretend to seccession, did you forget?
And so the French did fight for Hitler against the US/British landings in North Africa.
After Hitler invaded the free zone of Vichy France in 1942 (just as he had invaded his former Polish ally in 1939, his former Soviet Ally in 1941 and his former Hungarian ally in 1944) of course the French soldiers with any brains were against him.
A group known as border ruffians had been hanging people in Kansas before the Jayhawkers went to work.
Of course by law, Kansas was to be free, per Missouri compromise. Slave power changed their mind on that one also.
As an example of a memorial to big killers, see Stone Mountain.
We know the examples. You don’t get the point donmaker.
I get your point. Your point is false. Mine is true.
So is it your assertion that controversy between the states, or between the states and the federal government is not required by the constitution to be resolved by law at the supreme court?
Kentucky and Missouri were other states invaded by the slave power and its deluded soldiers.
Worst Presidents - Ten + 1 extra for good measure...
1. OBummer
2. The Peanut Farmer
3. The Hope Arkansas Intern Dabbler
4. Mr Lady Bird
5. The Man from Kennebunkport
6. The Delano Guy - Winston’s Cousin
7. The Edward Mandell House Puppet
8. The ‘I am not a crook’ guy
9. Leslie Lynch King, Jr
10.Useless
11.Pierced on his own petard (Ostend Manifesto)
“So is it your assertion that controversy between the states, or between the states and the federal government is not required by the constitution to be resolved by law at the supreme court?”
Donny, I think you’ve described Lincoln’s gift to the nation. Why take your opponents to the Supreme Court when you can simply send an army to burn them out and kill them?
Directly from your post, so there is no mistake.
To anyone in the newly seceded states this would be a provocation.
To the CSA this would say that the new president of the USA intends to maintain Fort Sumter at the entrance to Charleston Harbor in South Carolina and Fort Pickens at the entrance to Pensacola Bay in Florida for the purposes of collecting duties and imposts.
What independent nation could tolerate a foreign power maintaining armed fortifications within its territorial waters? What independent nation would pay duties and impost to a foreign power?
Basically what Lincoln was saying was fine you can call yourself an independent nation but you will still pay your taxes regardless.
You waited three days to post that? Seriously?!
I bet he wanted to when timely, but found FR was frozen and dead. So had to continue when it finally woke up again.
My point was that Germany had no more moral compunction to observe the first Treaty of Versailles than France had to observe the second one.
Except that would free any nation to break any agreement.
All agreements are made under some expectation of reward and punishment.
For example, Iran agreed, in exchange for the US providing nuclear expertise and materials for power plants, to give up any right to pursue nuclear weapons.
Violation of that or any agreement invokes penalties. If there is no expectation that an agreement will be kept, then there is no reason to give an agreement.
Consider the parole agreements generously given to Southern soldiers after the surrender of their armies in North Carolina, Virginia and Mississippi. Certainly such an agreement is given under threat of punishment. Without the expectation that it would be kept, the soldiers would be detained, with the usual high loss of life from disease associated with that.
“In doing this there need be no bloodshed or violence, and there shall be none, unless it is forced upon the national authority.”
I don’t know why that would be seen by anyone in the southern states as a provocation.
Just as an intellectual exercise, take the words “no” “unless” and replace “none” with “some” out to see what the opposite would be.
“In doing this there need be bloodshed or violence, and there shall be some, it is forced upon the national authority.”
That could be a provocation. As given by Lincoln, it gives no provocation, rather is the opposite of provocation.
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