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Sheriff: Cabin not purposely burned in firefight
AP ^ | Feb 13, 7:47 PM EST | GREG RISLING and TAMI ABDOLLAH

Posted on 02/13/2013 5:12:34 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- There was no question. The man standing before Rick Heltebrake on a rural mountain road was Christopher Dorner. Clad in camouflage from head to toe and wearing a bulletproof vest packed with ammunition, the most wanted man in America over the last week was just a few feet away, having emerged from a grove of trees holding a large, assault-style rifle.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dorner; dornerthelibhero; droner; dronerliberalhero; dronerthelibhero
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To: null and void
The cops were engaged in a firefight with a known cop killer. They took whatever means necessary to kill the guy I don't have any problem with that at all....

Worrying about giving the guy a trial and risking further lives to try to bring that about is foolish. Its the way liberals think and why I could never support a Libertarian for any elective office..no matter how Conservative they profess to be..

81 posted on 02/13/2013 7:39:10 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: penelopesire; NoLibZone

>> “Not doubting you, but where do we have proof of this term meaning what you say it means?” <<

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It’s not a technical term, its SWAT slang.


82 posted on 02/13/2013 7:39:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; mickie
"No, no!" cried the Queen of Hearts to Alice, "Sentence first - verdict afterwards!"

Leni

83 posted on 02/13/2013 7:42:46 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: montanajoe

>> “ Its the way liberals think and why I could never support a Libertarian for any elective office..no matter how Conservative they profess to be.. “ <<

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Beginner talk.

Liberals and real libertarians are on opposite ends of the political spectrum.

All but a small handful of the founders were libertarians. Hamilton may have been the only one that wasn’t.


84 posted on 02/13/2013 7:45:13 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Eaker

Nice!


85 posted on 02/13/2013 7:50:09 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Whatever it is, I just would like a citation somewhere where I can read it for myself. It would certainly make a difference in my mind because I heard them talking about burning him out. There are other audio recordings where the police clearly say..’burn the mf out’ . If that is just swat talk for tear gas, I have never heard it before....lol.


86 posted on 02/13/2013 8:01:12 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Starstruck
Don’t care if they offed the dude. Just make sure the owner gets 100% of everything he lost.

The cabin was part of a small resort on the upper reaches of the Santa Ana River. It apparently dated from the 1920's and was an example of the style of mountain cabin architecture of that era. You can read a description of the cabins in the complex at its website.

87 posted on 02/13/2013 8:23:05 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: penelopesire
It would certainly make a difference in my mind because I heard them talking about burning him out.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/tear-gas2.htm

CS gas is often referred to as "burners".

88 posted on 02/13/2013 8:25:01 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: montanajoe
The cops were engaged in a firefight with a known cop killer. They took whatever means necessary to kill the guy I don't have any problem with that at all....

It's far from clear there was an active firefight. There was a report of a single gunshot after the fire started, and multiple rounds cooking off in the fire.

From what I've gathered there were few shots fired before that, and it's not even clear if they were police or Dorner.

If you listen to the scanner feed at post #59 it's clear that there were no shots being fired even while the front door was being pried open. The door prier-opener reported blood splatter inside.

No shots are being fired, they know the occupant is injured, and at that point they decide to "deploy the burners as planned".

89 posted on 02/13/2013 8:29:39 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Appreciate the link but nowhere in the link did it say that the swat or military refers to CS as ‘burners’ from what I read. Perhaps you linked the wrong page.


90 posted on 02/13/2013 8:32:18 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: null and void

From LAPD pr: “I don’t think there’s going to be a reward,” he said. “Remember, it’s capture and conviction. There was no capture and no conviction. It’s kind of a no-brainer.”

So, not giving the reward is a “no-brainer”. So is a win-win w/dorners death.


91 posted on 02/13/2013 8:36:03 PM PST by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues.)
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To: Alaska Wolf
"Burners deployed and we have a fire."

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

92 posted on 02/13/2013 8:40:00 PM PST by Ken H
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To: penelopesire

It is slang. Try this or do a little research because apparently you aren’t going to believe anything I post.

http://www.drudge.com/news/165550/police-used-burners-dorner-standoff


93 posted on 02/13/2013 8:44:05 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: cyn

Clarify: “So (in LAPD thinking, it seems,) it is a win-win w/dorners death.


94 posted on 02/13/2013 8:44:53 PM PST by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues.)
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To: Ken H
Seems pretty straightforward to me.

That's the problem. You are drawing conclusions based on emotion, not facts.

95 posted on 02/13/2013 8:46:06 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: null and void
they know the occupant is injured,

How?

96 posted on 02/13/2013 8:48:56 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf
"Burners deployed and we have a fire."

Guess what? There was a real fire.

Plain English is plain English.

97 posted on 02/13/2013 8:55:05 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Alaska Wolf
Ummmm, oh, I dunno THE BLOOD SPLATTER???
98 posted on 02/13/2013 8:55:14 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Omg..you linked to the ‘Drudge Retort’? A left wing site?

Perhaps I should not trust anything you link for sure...lol.


99 posted on 02/13/2013 8:56:23 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Ken H

“burners deployed and we have a fire.” Said in matter-of-fact way, that the fire is expected result of deploying the burners. Then repeated back in just the same way.

Thanks for the link.


100 posted on 02/13/2013 9:01:26 PM PST by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues.)
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