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Politician moves to make vulgar Photoshopping illegal
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Posted on 02/14/2013 7:36:50 AM PST by TigerClaws

Sometimes people don't appreciate flattery. They are so engrossed in their own grossly skewed view of the world that their sense of humor flies into the night like a married lover late home for dinner. How else can one explain the quite bizarre intentions of Georgia state Rep. Earnest Smith? He clearly sees a vast importance in being Earnest. He clearly believes that his constituents are so drawn to his Earnestness that anything that deviates it from absolute Earnestness deserves the full metal force of the law. Which is why he wants to make lewd, coarse, filthy Photoshopping illegal and punishable with a fine of $1,000.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: photoshop
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1 posted on 02/14/2013 7:36:53 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Before I decide if this is a good idea or not, I want to see pictures of what is considered “lewd, coarse, filthy”.

Maybe four or five examples of each would help.


2 posted on 02/14/2013 7:40:35 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

I bet people could have a lot of fun Photoshopping pictures of Earnest.


3 posted on 02/14/2013 7:42:20 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: TigerClaws
Wow, I guess Obama really, really, really didn't like the freeper skeet photo with the little red hat and harlequin plaid jockeys. (Snicker)
4 posted on 02/14/2013 7:43:33 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt)
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To: dfwgator

What about newspapers that manipulate photos? In 1988, ATEX merged with Eikonix to form EPPS (Electronic Pre-Press Systems. There we were introduced to the Digitizer. The lesson learned was “never believe a photo you see in a newspaper or magazine ever again”.


5 posted on 02/14/2013 7:44:58 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: TigerClaws
From the Fox News article:

Everyone has a right to privacy,” he told FoxNews.com. “No one has a right to make fun of anyone. It’s not a First Amendment right.”

Typical liberal. The Bill of Rights does not include the "right to privacy" your friends made up.

6 posted on 02/14/2013 7:45:35 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: TigerClaws
They just do not have humor when it comes to how stupid they look in these photo shopped pictures..Most of these idiots do not need the picture to be photo shopped they are vulgar looking and it takes very little to make them look stupid..
7 posted on 02/14/2013 7:48:01 AM PST by PLD
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To: TigerClaws

Interesting that the article never mentioned his party and that no one here seems curious. Hint: He’s not a Republican.


8 posted on 02/14/2013 7:51:49 AM PST by BfloGuy (Money, like chocolate on a hot oven, was melting in the pockets of the people.)
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To: Conservative4Ever
Wow, I guess Obama really, really, really didn't like the freeper skeet photo with the little red hat and harlequin plaid jockeys. (Snicker)

Right, little Obambibozopencilarmliar looked like a fool with the photoshopped picture that THEY submitted to make him look ruthless, cunning, manly, barf.

Ok when they do it, but when someone else does it to Obambi, it's a sin.

9 posted on 02/14/2013 7:51:56 AM PST by laweeks
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To: svcw
Before I decide if this is a good idea or not, I want to see pictures of what is considered “lewd, coarse, filthy”.

Reduced to its simplest explanation, any depiction of "Earnest the politician" that casts "Earnest the politician" in a negative light will be deemed "lewd, coarse, filthy".

Photoshops of other people won't get nearly the scrutiny.

10 posted on 02/14/2013 7:52:03 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: TigerClaws
Who needs to photoshop, when reality is so....


11 posted on 02/14/2013 7:54:04 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TigerClaws

Nope. First Amendment.

These are always silly, misguided laws and always unconstitutional.


12 posted on 02/14/2013 7:57:08 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: TigerClaws
Freedom vs. license is an old and complex debate. People don't really believe in absolute liberty, defined as I can do anything I want. We don't want anyone to have the freedom to walk around with a machete hacking up everyone they come across. Freedom is never the right to DO wrong. It is the right to BE wrong.

But that leaves us with the complex question of what is right and wrong. Many libertarian and freedom loving conservatives would define wrong as anything which harms some elses' life liberty or property. But even that definiton is not simple in implementation. By that definiton drunk driving at three time the legal limit of alcohol is not wrong. It is only wrong once you hit someone.

In the current context, could someone's reputation, and therefore life, career, family etc. be harmed by this type of photoshopping? For example someone photoshops the local pastor going into a porn shop. Could it damage his family and career? Is it only wrong if it does damage his career, or harms him in a way that he can prove it in court beyond any reasonable doubt?

What do you think our founding fatehrs in the 1650's would have done if someone painted such a lewd figure of a public figure and put it in public view? Would the action you think they would have taken been because they were liberty hating religious nut prudes, or perhaps is your reaction instead skewed based on successive generations of moral debasement in America?

13 posted on 02/14/2013 8:00:17 AM PST by EyeSalveRich (where do you draw the line)
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To: TigerClaws
 photo missed_zps7ba0cd14.jpg I 'grand fathered' this one in...just in case
14 posted on 02/14/2013 8:00:30 AM PST by RetSignman ("...a Republic if you can keep it")
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To: TigerClaws

Alternate Headline:
Rep Earnest Smith Announces He Volunteers As Subject of New 4-Chan PhotoShopping Contest


15 posted on 02/14/2013 8:03:19 AM PST by dangus
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To: Travis McGee

16 posted on 02/14/2013 8:07:33 AM PST by conservative98
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To: Pan_Yan

Alinskys Rules for Radicals says ridicule is a powerful weapon, look at the MSM and Conservatives. Moron.


17 posted on 02/14/2013 8:07:58 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: PLD
THIS HAS LOTS AND LOTS OF PHOTO SHOPPED PHOTOS OF THE GOON AND MS GOONIE ..take a look..like this one or better
18 posted on 02/14/2013 8:10:46 AM PST by PLD
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To: TigerClaws

F*** you, Earnest Smith. I am now going to embark on a long litany of outright-obscene photoshops of you. I will double my output if this becomes law.


19 posted on 02/14/2013 8:11:46 AM PST by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: PLD

http://www.freakingnews.com/funny-pictures/obama-pictures.asp


20 posted on 02/14/2013 8:11:59 AM PST by PLD
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To: TigerClaws
Photobucket Oh Crap! As a avid Photoshop'er..I'm so screwed!
21 posted on 02/14/2013 8:12:45 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: TigerClaws

Nowhere does in mention, in the entire story, this bozo is a Rat. Someone points that out a few comments down.


22 posted on 02/14/2013 8:13:12 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: TigerClaws

bttt


23 posted on 02/14/2013 8:16:11 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: baddog 219; PLD

great pics.


24 posted on 02/14/2013 8:17:29 AM PST by EyeSalveRich (where do you draw the line)
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To: TigerClaws
Hmmm... I wonder why he would do that?:
25 posted on 02/14/2013 8:20:50 AM PST by DoctorBulldog (Obama sucks. End of story.)
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To: TigerClaws

OH ok, all those years of libs photoshopping W as a monkey or hitler well that was OK, but now that it’s happened to HIM well, now somethings gotta be done. F you AHOLE.


26 posted on 02/14/2013 8:27:59 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: EyeSalveRich

I think you described pretty much my thinking, but more eloquently than I could have. It comes down to “my rights end where yours begin” — that is, the machete wielder is perfectly fine possessing and carrying the weapon, but once it uses it to start harming others without just cause, then it’s wrong.

In this case, that is, photoshopping, it’s fuzzier because the damage potentially done is to abstract concepts such as reputation. Clearly, an attempt to falsely manipulate an image for gain would be fraud, but at the same time, parody and satire are strongly protected concepts.

I think, regardless of the content of the image alteration (e.g., “lewd”, “obscene”), and such altered image that is presented as being “true” that can damage a person’s reputation and/or livelihood (the example of photoshopping an image of a pastor or priest (or say, elementary school principal) entering a porn shop is a good one) should be subject to AT LEAST civil damages for libel.

A criminal charge is harder to justify, though when you get into the realm of pornographic imagery, you’re already treading in gray areas to start with.

But something clearly presented as parody or satire (barring any obscenity issues) should be immune from such litigation.


27 posted on 02/14/2013 8:37:45 AM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: RetSignman

lol....I hadn’t seen that one. That’s hilarious.


28 posted on 02/14/2013 8:42:32 AM PST by Girlene (HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY)
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To: TigerClaws

If you call it Art, you can get away with anything, particularly if you are a Liberal.


29 posted on 02/14/2013 9:01:43 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TigerClaws

The recourse to photoshops that are malicious lies should be in civil courts not criminal courts.


30 posted on 02/14/2013 9:09:53 AM PST by jpsb
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To: TigerClaws

cracked.com could be in a lot of trouble if this passes.


31 posted on 02/14/2013 9:12:35 AM PST by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: Pan_Yan

all the liberal muck mucks who make fun of people left and right,wonder what they are thinking...

and earnest you’re a scmmy politician, not our parent. 1st amendment earnest. don’t likey, don’t listen.


32 posted on 02/14/2013 9:30:46 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: EyeSalveRich

earnest forgets there are libel and slander laws, with hundreds of years of case law behind that.


33 posted on 02/14/2013 9:32:07 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: TigerClaws

This should be a good thread. I will get a picture of this “lawmaker” when I get home and get busy!


34 posted on 02/14/2013 9:41:26 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: TigerClaws

pictures or it didn’t happen.


35 posted on 02/14/2013 9:42:30 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Travis McGee

What the he x 2 hockey sticks is THAT? Looks like a transvestite who chased me with a knife while on Shore Patrol in Naples...


36 posted on 02/14/2013 9:43:38 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: conservative98

Hahahahahahahahaha!


37 posted on 02/14/2013 9:44:38 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: kevkrom

Thanks. Agreed. Satire, and humor are entirely different than something presented as truth. The only problem with that is that in the internet age something done well and fuzzily presented as satire can then later take on a life of its own as something real. Once it has it is hard to squash, and damage can be done before it does. Still I wouldn’t want to legislate against it. We as internet consumers need to be careful that we don’t propagate misinformation. Many founding fathers quotes on 2nd ammendment for example are unsupportable from original historic sources. We would do well to check our sources and only using good information. There are plenty of valid quotes.

Lewd and obscene, I agree, are considered grayer areas. My point with that is that 200-300 years ago that was not at all gray. Is that because they were out of touch with liberty, or because we are out of touch with morality?


38 posted on 02/14/2013 9:45:19 AM PST by EyeSalveRich (where do you draw the line)
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To: TigerClaws

Will simply putting two pictures in close proximity be cause for a fine, even if you don't alter the photos?

39 posted on 02/14/2013 9:54:09 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: rlmorel

so how do you guys get picts in the posts? Do you just type an anchor tag with href to a link to the picture somewhere else on the internet?


40 posted on 02/14/2013 10:06:47 AM PST by EyeSalveRich (where do you draw the line)
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To: EyeSalveRich

Here’s how you post pictures in Freerepublic

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2883902/posts


41 posted on 02/14/2013 10:25:12 AM PST by BO Stinkss
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To: EyeSalveRich
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42 posted on 02/14/2013 10:29:22 AM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: TigerClaws

Without even looking, I know this clown’s a democrat. All you need to know is that a person is calling for something very clearly unconstitutional, and you know it’s a dem. Free speech? What? 1st Amendment? Not for long.


43 posted on 02/14/2013 10:41:57 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: TigerClaws
Thanks.
44 posted on 02/14/2013 10:44:09 AM PST by EyeSalveRich (where do you draw the line)
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To: EyeSalveRich

I’ll try to send some Info tonight...


45 posted on 02/14/2013 10:50:44 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: EyeSalveRich

Ah, I see you are all set...;)


46 posted on 02/14/2013 10:53:28 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: rlmorel
What the he x 2 hockey sticks is THAT? Looks like a transvestite who chased me with a knife while on Shore Patrol in Naples... You should have paid her.
48 posted on 02/14/2013 11:26:34 AM PST by willyd
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Hahahaha...I was on Shore Patrol duty, and was supposed to PREVENT people from paying her...er him...er...it!


49 posted on 02/14/2013 12:34:17 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: J05h

Ah. One of the old favorites.

I can’t even laugh at it now. This guy is in office, likely will be for the rest of his life, and is making laws that affect me personally.

Now, it makes me want to puke when I see it.


50 posted on 02/14/2013 12:36:10 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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