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Obamacare Supporters Feel the Fear
American Interest ^ | 02/14/2013

Posted on 02/14/2013 9:13:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Obamacare supporters are unleashing a massive public relations campaign, turning to political networks and sports teams to help them sell the new law to a skeptical public. For the Affordable Care Act to succeed in expanding the ranks of the insured, many of the 30 million currently uninsured need to purchase an insurance plan in the new exchanges the law sets up. But advocates worry that it could be difficult to convince people to sign up for coverage. The WSJ reports:

According to backers of the law, enrollment faces big obstacles as polls and focus groups suggest a majority of uninsured people aren’t aware of the new coverage options or the availability of subsidies toward the cost of health insurance premiums. Many respondents also say they have had bad experiences with finding health insurance or paying medical debts.

“This is a very skeptical audience,” said Rachel Klein of Enroll America, a nonprofit group set up by the founding members of Families USA, a group that campaigned for the law’s passage.

While Enroll America is relying on door-to-door grassroots political action to build support for enrollment, other states are using celebrity power to improve Obamacare’s brand. But the law faces bigger problems than bad branding and a lack of awareness.

It might seem odd that the law’s supporters should need to convince Americans to purchase a plan, given that those who don’t will be taxed. But the tax will be less expensive than the cost of coverage. The minimum tax per person will be $695 per year. Higher earning individuals will have to pay more: a couple who makes $100,000 per year, for example, will be taxed around $2,025. That may sound like a lot, but the CBO estimates that the annual premiums for the least-expensive plan offered under the new law would reach about $12,000 for a family and about $5,000 for an individual (all figures can be found here).

This means that for a lot of people paying the tax will be cheaper than buying insurance. And since the new law prevents insurance companies from denying you coverage or charging you more if you have a pre-existing condition, you can always buy a plan later if you develop an expensive medical condition.

Over time, more and more people are going to figure this out. Many healthy people (especially the young and the single) will just pay the tax, knowing they can get it later if they need to. In the meantime, everybody with expensive health care problems will flood into the system, driving up costs and premiums. Then even more healthy people will choose the tax over the increasingly expensive insurance premiums, in turn forcing premiums up even higher.

Keeping this dynamic from undermining the new health care system is going to be one of the biggest tests Obamacare will face. There may be ways around it. As of 2010 Massachusetts’s similar plan has successfully raised its insurance rate from about 90 percent up to 98.1 percent. But it will be a serious challenge. This glitzy “buy insurance now” marketing campaign is a sign that the government recognizes this vulnerability and fears it.

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1 posted on 02/14/2013 9:13:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m Catholic. I’m self employed. I won’t buy Obamacare. Period.


2 posted on 02/14/2013 9:16:57 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: SeekAndFind

I formally request all those talented hackers out there devote full time to publishing names/addresses/phone numbers/car types and licenses of EVERY person who voted for and support Obamacare.

It’s only fair.

After all, the free exchange of information has been demanded by liberals...and it’s soon going to be time that they fully regret it.


3 posted on 02/14/2013 9:17:47 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind

“While Enroll America is relying on door-to-door grassroots political action to build support for enrollment”

Oh really...


4 posted on 02/14/2013 9:19:08 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“While Enroll America is relying on door-to-door grassroots political action to build support for enrollment”

Oh really...


5 posted on 02/14/2013 9:19:08 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: SeekAndFind
They didn't buy their own insurance before.

Why would they buy it now?

After all, Obamacare is FREE, right?

6 posted on 02/14/2013 9:20:49 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: SeekAndFind

All those who come out in favor of ObamaCare will get an exemption from the law!


7 posted on 02/14/2013 9:23:02 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s not true that you can’t be charged a higher premium if you have pre-existing conditions under Obamacare. All the law says is that you can’t be denied, not that you can’t be charged higher premiums.

How much higher has yet to be determined


8 posted on 02/14/2013 9:24:57 AM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: SeekAndFind

obamacare


9 posted on 02/14/2013 9:25:04 AM PST by quintr
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To: SeekAndFind
Enroll America

my tagline, nuff said

10 posted on 02/14/2013 9:25:39 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: SeekAndFind
While Enroll America is relying on door-to-door grassroots political action to build support for enrollment, other states are using celebrity power to improve Obamacare’s brand. But the law faces bigger problems than bad branding and a lack of awareness.

Sorta like the grassroots effort that they put forth every ten years to do the census?

11 posted on 02/14/2013 9:28:32 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Exactamundo! Can’t you just hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth when these clymers find out it isn’t free and that Justice Roberts’ tax doesn’t buy anything but compliance?


12 posted on 02/14/2013 9:28:46 AM PST by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: SeekAndFind
many of the 30 million currently uninsured need to purchase an insurance plan in the new exchanges the law sets up

Uh huh.. what exchanges? where are they? Couldn't they just buy insurance without going through an exchange? SO what is their point?

I ain't buying crap. Make me. lol

13 posted on 02/14/2013 9:29:13 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama is going to spend millions of tax dollars in advertising this fall threatening people to sign up for ObamaCare by January 1st. The liberal media is going to make out like a bandit with all the advertising money Obama will be giving them on the “enrollment push”.


14 posted on 02/14/2013 9:29:25 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: SeekAndFind

“door-to-door grassroots political action”

Just because you knock on doors doesn’t make it “grassroots.” I’m almost certain it’s the opposite of grassroots.


15 posted on 02/14/2013 9:29:46 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Slyfox

If they show up at my door, I won’t answer...just as I did the last 2 censuses.


16 posted on 02/14/2013 9:33:26 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: SeekAndFind

I am not going to the doctor for much anymore. I don’t plan to either. I am opting out of the entire system. Reduce stress, exercise more, healthy eating. Prevention and holistic medicines and teas, and when it is my time, I am ready to go and meet the big guy upstairs.

DONE.


17 posted on 02/14/2013 9:35:12 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: Lorianne

RE: All the law says is that you can’t be denied, not that you can’t be charged higher premiums.

What if you don’t have the money and get sick? Can you be denied?


18 posted on 02/14/2013 9:39:53 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Lorianne

“It’s not true that you can’t be charged a higher premium if you have pre-existing conditions under Obamacare. All the law says is that you can’t be denied, not that you can’t be charged higher premiums.”

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Correct. This is what insurance companies are doing now. Covering all these risky policyholders will cost the companies serious money, so of course, the cost will be passed on to the insureds.


19 posted on 02/14/2013 9:40:12 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: GeronL

RE: I ain’t buying crap. Make me. lol

You do know that the law says that if you don’t buy healthcare, you will be penalized ( or as Justice Robert says — TAXED ) don’t you?


20 posted on 02/14/2013 9:41:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

They need to fearing something! Any rational unselfish person would have to realize that we can’t keep exhorbitantly paying these people NOT to work!

Practically, there just isn’t enough money to do this unless you rob and rape the private retirement funds of the working citizens of this country. Even taxing the ‘rich’ at 100% of their taxable income is a drop in the bucket compared against the entitlement liabilities. And if you rape the private retirements funds, then you open up the rolls of entitlement freeloaders immeasurably. Effectively, you enslave the entire population of this country to some sort of government entitlement.

This is probably what Obama wants, but if he does this, he’ll get that civil war he’s been looking for, because the ‘good’ citizenry of this country are not going to ‘register’ their guns, give up their AR-15s, or voluntarily comply with any such restrictions. I’ll give mine away before I do that.


21 posted on 02/14/2013 9:41:33 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

The system will also rely on voluntary reporting to the IRS of your current insurance status.

I imagine that there will be vast non-compliance with this requirement. I intend to claim my 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination.

The IRS will be in a precarious position, IMHO, when it has to be the vehicle for proving that people have insurance. Obamalamacare is going to teach people that just a little bit of mass voluntary non-compliance can cripple the IRS system.

The IRS should be very concerned that the lessons learned aren’t applied more generally.


22 posted on 02/14/2013 9:42:19 AM PST by ziravan (Choose sides.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why buy it until you need it? The law forces insurers to take pre-existing conditions, so they killed their own business model. Morons.


23 posted on 02/14/2013 9:44:23 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Da Coyote
"I formally request all those talented hackers out there devote full time to publishing names/addresses/phone numbers/car types and licenses of EVERY person who voted for and support Obamacare."

Be careful. We should also go after all of those who supported The Won(s) who nominated and voted for Traitor Roberts.

24 posted on 02/14/2013 9:47:44 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind; GeronL

Taxed! How, as I have no money and haven’t had a job in ten years, thus haven’t filed a tax return in quite some time.

So how did I live? I was caregiver for my dying, elderly parents. I was their dependent.

At 61, I’m looking for employment but without any luck.

Tax me?!


25 posted on 02/14/2013 9:52:03 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SeekAndFind

All these articles miss the point that Obamacare was DESIGNED to hollow-out and crush the existing insurance industry so it would collapse and we’d all run to Washington begging them to pass single payer.


26 posted on 02/14/2013 9:52:43 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind
This means that for a lot of people paying the tax will be cheaper than buying insurance.

Yeah... if you don't get sick. If you are sick or injured, you still have to pay your hospital bills. Good luck doing that without insurance.

...unless you are a freeloader who doesn't pay his bills -- then feel free to do whatever you want on the taxpayer's dime.

27 posted on 02/14/2013 9:53:20 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: fatnotlazy

You are right. Small family biz here, our Blue Cross goes
up 30% in March. Same coverage. Thought BHO said “no increases, not a dime”.


28 posted on 02/14/2013 9:54:39 AM PST by deep trout
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To: Da Coyote
devote full time to publishing names/addresses/phone numbers/car types and licenses of EVERY person who voted for and support Obamacare

I'll give you one, former Wisconsin Democrat Senator Herb Kohl. And Herb Kohl's family department store chain just issued a policy limiting part-time employees to 29 hours per week so that the company would not have to pay for their health care and/or a fine.

Guess he thought it would only adversely impact OTHER people's businesses when he voted for it.


29 posted on 02/14/2013 9:55:17 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: lacrew
“While Enroll America is relying on door-to-door grassroots political action to build support for enrollment”

Enroll this!

30 posted on 02/14/2013 9:56:32 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: CSM

Remember tho that Obamacare is a temporary, interim measure that’s going to collapse by design. It’s the only way to back the country into adopting single payer.

So no, not morons. Pretty frikkin brilliant ( in terms of advancing a political/ideological agenda no matter the cost ) if you ask me.


31 posted on 02/14/2013 9:57:52 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Lorianne
All the law says is that you can’t be denied, not that you can’t be charged higher premiums.

Actually, it does say that people with preexisting conditions cannot be charged higher rates.

32 posted on 02/14/2013 9:58:05 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: SeekAndFind

Did they pass a law for celebrities to pay into social security yet? Or Medicare?

Or for public employees to pay into social security and Medicare?


33 posted on 02/14/2013 10:00:03 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Dahoser
Can’t you just hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth when these clymers find out it isn’t free and that Justice Roberts’ tax doesn’t buy anything but compliance?

See my tagline.

34 posted on 02/14/2013 10:00:58 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Bingo!


35 posted on 02/14/2013 10:02:55 AM PST by bonehead4freedom
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To: SeekAndFind

ObamaCare will be the democrats self immolation. COnservatives must be prepared for the epic fail. 2014 and 2016 will not be so pleasant for the left. “Chickens will come jome to roost.!”


36 posted on 02/14/2013 10:03:56 AM PST by LALALAW (one of the asses whose sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am not going to the doctor for much anymore. I don’t plan to either. I am opting out of the entire system. Reduce stress, exercise more, healthy eating. Prevention and holistic medicines and teas, and when it is my time, I am ready to go and meet the big guy upstairs.

DONE.


37 posted on 02/14/2013 10:06:54 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: LALALAW

Not by a long shot. The demographics are past the tipping point here. Barring some sort of massive and messy scandal in their ranks the GOP will hold the House in 14 and 16, and has an ok shotvst picking up the Senate in 14 (but then losing it in 16). The White House is gone for at least a generation.

Look at Hispanics for instance, who voted for Obama based on healthcare, not immigration.


38 posted on 02/14/2013 10:15:53 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: SeekAndFind

Massive public relations campaign to hide the truth,to late the facts are out.


39 posted on 02/14/2013 10:18:47 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Everythin’s free in America...” Sing it!


40 posted on 02/14/2013 10:19:40 AM PST by pingman (Trust a lib? Surely you jest!)
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To: CSM

You underestimate your opponents. They know exactly what they are doing. Deliberately destroying our current system of healthcare insurance so they can replace it with what they really want.....single-payer government-run healthcare. They aren’t quite as stupid as most folks think. Insane, demented, evil and bent on either taking complete control or destroying completely, yes. But stupid or morons, no.

“The law forces insurers to take pre-existing conditions, so they killed their own business model. Morons.”


41 posted on 02/14/2013 10:25:31 AM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: XenaLee
You underestimate your opponents. They know exactly what they are doing. Deliberately destroying our current system of healthcare insurance so they can replace it with what they really want.....single-payer government-run healthcare.

Yes. As a thug once said, "never let a crisis go to waste". They are creating a crisis, and when the effects of Obamacare are causing maximum carnage they will announce we MUST have single-payer "for the children". And they will blame Republicans for all of it, whether that makes sense or not. Since 90% of the media are their fellow travelers, they might just succeed in rewriting that history. Low-information voters won't know the difference, and they are legion.
42 posted on 02/14/2013 10:48:37 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Truth2012

“I am not going to the doctor for much anymore. I don’t plan to either. I am opting out of the entire system. Reduce stress, exercise more, healthy eating. Prevention and holistic medicines and teas, and when it is my time, I am ready to go and meet the big guy upstairs.

DONE.”

I’m with you. And as an added bonus, when you don’t take their drugs, you don’t need a whole cabinet full of drugs that are for cascading side effects. You know, take drug A, get side effect A, so take drugs A, and B, where B is for A’s side effects, which causes side effects necessitating drug C... and on and on.


43 posted on 02/14/2013 10:55:43 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The IRS will take it out of your bank accounts, charge your credit cards, and if necessary take the money out of your refund check from the IRS. One way or the other you are going to pay for the illegals, minorities, and anyone who wants to break into our Country, their health-care! After all, it's FREE!!!!!

Eight Deuce on the Loose!!!

44 posted on 02/14/2013 11:16:39 AM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN Div. 1/508th BN "Fury From the Sky")
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To: Smokin' Joe

My husband was laid off last year 3 months after having prostate cancer surgery. He’s working at a start up that doesn’t have insurance, and Cobra coverage runs out in 7 months.

He’s been looking at buying insurance for all of us. He won’t qualify, and he’s had insurance coverage for over 20 years non-stop.

We were hoping to move out of California,but it looks like we’ll be here a while longer. California has Cal-cobra whic adds another 18 months to his coverage.

The insurance companies said he’ll be eligible for coverage in 2014 because of the-pre-existing conditions cannot be applied after that because of Obamacare.

Not sure what the new law will do to rates., but I will add I’m glad he’ll be able to get insurance.

I’ve always thought that people who have insurance and get a serious condition should still be able to buy it.

It’s bad enough to get laid off because of cancer (we talked to a lawyer and had a good case, but he said it would every stressful only husband, and that would be bad for his health).

I don’t know why this bill had to be so big. There were issues beforehand, but I think they could have been handled in smaller bills.


45 posted on 02/14/2013 11:17:41 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: fatnotlazy

“If they show up at my door, I won’t answer.”

Oh I answered the door, and told them they had 10 seconds to get off of my property, and that 5 of them were gone.

I got a couple of threats about the law, mumble, mumble, mumble.

I asked, Are you threatening me? They quickly left.


46 posted on 02/14/2013 11:18:20 AM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most of the “uninsured” aren’t going to get off their couch to buy something unless it is the latest iPhone or game machine.

And Obama already gave away the phones so they can’t use that gimmick.


47 posted on 02/14/2013 11:42:43 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: XenaLee

I agree with you and was really just responding to the useful idiots. You are correct tho, the elites are destroying the system by design.


48 posted on 02/14/2013 12:17:55 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I’m Catholic. I’m self employed. I won’t buy Obamacare. Period.

Same for me. This "Enroll America" thing troubles me. I don't remember if it's in the final version that became law but one of the bills I read had provision for forced enrollment of some individuals. I seem to recall that it applied to both Medicaid and private insurance but I really don't remember.

I have already decided that I won't pursue coverage on the exchange. Exchanges are pointless if they only sell identical policies. They have to function as screening mechanisms to route some into Medicaid, some into subsidized private coverage and others into unsubsidized private coverage. Once I give my details I'm going to be stuck with whatever Uncle Sam decides I need. I'm not going there. Looks like I'll remain uninsured for a long time to come. Health sharing is the only option I can see.

49 posted on 02/14/2013 12:30:11 PM PST by PeevedPatriot
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To: Mr. Know It All

Actually, Mr. Doesn’t know it all, the law as it stands now allows one to sign up for insurance at any time with no denial for preexisting conditions. Therefore, one could sign up for Zerocare in the ambulance on the way to the hospital, and care would be covered by insurance.


50 posted on 02/14/2013 1:41:37 PM PST by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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